staff polyphony, collisions between ties and beams

Dear community, I find it difficult to engrave the following three bars. How can I avoid collisions between beams and ties? Here is the snippet: \version "2.18.2" first = { cis1 ~ cis1 ~ cis\fermata \bar"|." } second = { \voiceTwos2 \voiceThree \tuplet 3/2 { a'''8 a'''

Re: staff polyphony, collisions between ties and beams

Hi Stephan I think it's a matter of finding the least-ugly arrangement which make it clear to the pianist what is intended. Perhaps lower the beams slight and move the tuplet brackets up a little to make room for the ties. You could reshape the ties a little, but I don't think this improves i

Re: tie <> to << {} \\ {} >>

My contribution of two days ago hasn't turned up on the list (yet), so here goes again: Here is a variant of Pierre's proposal: \transpose c c' { %16 ~ << { \once \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t \once \hideNotes 16 \once \override NoteColumn.force-

staccato dots and slurs in second voice

Have a look at these two snippets. % slur.ly \relative c' << { c'8( b) } \\ { e,4 } >> % slur-beam.ly \relative c' << { c'8[( b]) } \\ { e,4 } >> % staccato-slur.ly \relative c' << { c'8( b-.) } \\ { e,4 } >> % staccato-slur-beam.

\startTrillSpan without the tr at the beginning?

I'm trying to typeset a fairly common 18th sign that looks a bit like an extended prall but less jagged (see attached). The \startTrillSpan would do at a pinch if I could get rid of the "tr" at the start of it. I don't see this in the docs - any help? Richard _

Re: \startTrillSpan without the tr at the beginning?

Try : \version "2.18.2" { b'-\tweak bound-details.left.text #'() \startTrillSpan b' b'\stopTrillSpan } Pierre 2015-01-25 11:33 GMT+01:00 Richard Shann : > I'm trying to typeset a fairly common 18th sign that looks a bit like an > extended prall but less jagged (see attached). > The \startT

Re: Learning Manual 2.18 2.41 Organizing pieces with variables

Hi Kevin, see: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/extending/lilypond-variables.html Not enough time to go into details. Cheers, Pierre 2015-01-25 8:51 GMT+01:00 Kevin Tough : > Hi Folks, > I'm trying to get up to speed with variables but I am missing something > obvious or the docu

Re: \startTrillSpan without the tr at the beginning?

Or: \version "2.19.11" { \once\override TextSpanner.style = #'trill \time 3/4 b' \startTextSpan b' b' \stopTextSpan } hth patrick On 25.01.2015, at 12:03, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > Try : > > \version "2.18.2" > > { > b'-\tweak bound-details.left.text #'() \startTrillSpan

Re: Learning Manual 2.18 2.41 Organizing pieces with variables

- Original Message - From: "Kevin Tough" To: "LilypondMailingListGenUser" Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 7:51 AM Subject: Learning Manual 2.18 2.41 Organizing pieces with variables Hi Folks, I'm trying to get up to speed with variables but I am missing something obvious or the docume

Re: \startTrillSpan without the tr at the beginning?

Thank you very much - Your first suggestion works perfectly. This second suggestion (which I won't get to test until tomorrow) looks like the one for this sort of score (moved and applied to the whole score), since the default is never needed. With these hints I should be able to make progress on t

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

Hi Werner, This lovely collection of snippets reveals oh so many problems… :) 1. The staccato dot should be directly at the end of the stem (see Gould, etc.), unless it’s part of a compound/multiple articulation. 2. Yes, the slur should behave as if there’s a beam present. 3. Yes, the slur sh

Re: Pianostaff 4-part writing and rests

Hello! Thanks Kieren! I'll look in to the snippet link you sent. It'll probably require some understanding from my part. There's so many things with Lilypond that's so difficult. Especially for me without any experience at all in the type of workflow that Lilypond use. Best wishes! P Peter D

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

Experimenting with custom-line-breaks-engraver, I've found that it doesn't work correctly if the number of bars to be printed per line exceeds 9, e.g. \consists #(custom-line-breaks-engraver '(10)) A 37 bar song comes out with 10, 10, 5, 5 and 7 bars per line, instead of the expected 1

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

Michael, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Michael Hendry [via Lilypond] wrote: > Experimenting with custom-line-breaks-engraver, I've found that it > doesn't work correctly if the number of bars to be printed per line > exceeds 9, e.g. \consists #(custom-line-breaks-engraver '(10)) > >

Re: \startTrillSpan without the tr at the beginning?

How about : { b'-\tweak X-offset #.8 ^\markup\pattern #6 #X #0 { \scale #'(1 . .6) \musicglyph #"scripts.trill_element" } b' b' } Cheers, Pierre 2015-01-25 13:57 GMT+01:00 Richard Shann : > Thank you very much - Your first suggestion works perfectly. This second > sugges

Re: Order of contexts over staves

- Original Message - From: "Phil Holmes" To: ; "Keith OHara" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Order of contexts over staves - Original Message - From: "Keith OHara" To: Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Order of contexts over staves

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

> On 25 Jan 2015, at 15:15, tisimst [via Lilypond] > wrote: > > Michael, > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Michael Hendry [via Lilypond] <[hidden > email] > wrote: >> Experimenting with custom-line-breaks-engraver, I've found that it doesn't >> work correctly if the number of bars to be pr

Re: \startTrillSpan without the tr at the beginning?

On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 17:20 +0100, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > { > b'-\tweak X-offset #.8 > ^\markup\pattern #6 #X #0 { > \scale #'(1 . .6) > \musicglyph #"scripts.trill_element" > } > b' b' > } hmm, interesting - I had to look \pattern up, I hadn't seen that one

Re: Need to suppress bar number checking in midi block

Does anyone have a solution for this issue? Like Michael Ellis, I like to use both "|" and \barNumberCheck to pick up rhythm errors and missing or duplicated bar that I've made, and I use MIDI output to pick up wrong notes in my transcriptions. I can usually pick out the erroneous \barNumberCheck

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

Hi Michael, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Michael Hendry wrote: > On 25 Jan 2015, at 15:15, tisimst [via Lilypond] <[hidden email] > > wrote: > > Michael, > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Michael Hendry [via Lilypond] < href="x-msg://

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

Hi, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Werner, > > This lovely collection of snippets reveals oh so many problems… :) > > 1. The staccato dot should be directly at the end of the stem (see Gould, > etc.), unless it’s part of a compound/

Tag problem

I'm confused about the "Using tags" subsection of section "3.3.2 Different editions from one source": > Known issues and warnings > Calling \relative on a music expression obtained by filtering music through > \keepWithTag or > \removeWithTag might cause the octave relations to change, as only

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

Of course - I should have spotted that! Interesting, though that with the override commented out I can get 9 bars per line, but if I exceed that by one I get 10, 10, 5, 5, 7, and the lines with 5 bars in them are sparsely filled - they could easily be 8 or 9. Many thanks - I missed the RTFM instr

Re: \startTrillSpan without the tr at the beginning?

On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 12:03 +0100, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > Try : > > \version "2.18.2" > > { > b'-\tweak bound-details.left.text #'() I've started to look more deeply to see if the sharp zig-zag line could be replaced by a user-defined line. I found this 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8>

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

Hi Michael, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: > Of course - I should have spotted that! > > Interesting, though that with the override commented out I can get 9 bars > per line, but if I exceed that by one I get 10, 10, 5, 5, 7, and the lines > with 5 bars in them are sparse

Re: instrumentSwitch and addInstrumentDefinition use

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:51:13 -0800, Kieren MacMillan wrote: 2. What would be required so that the \bar "||” \key \default stuff could be avoided It is awkward to make this happen with an add-on to current LilyPond. Jan-Peter took the approach of watching for transposition changes in his au

Re: Order of contexts over staves

On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 08:37:16 -0800, Phil Holmes wrote: is there a way of displaying where the various contexts are placed so I can try to see what's going on? I don't know of any built-in option that will help with this, but you could temporarily ask LilyPond to draw Dynamics with one staff-l

Re: \startTrillSpan without the tr at the beginning?

Try: { b'-\tweak style #'zigzag \startTextSpan b' b' \stopTextSpan } Pierre 2015-01-25 20:14 GMT+01:00 Richard Shann : > On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 12:03 +0100, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > > Try : > > > > \version "2.18.2" > > > > { > > b'-\tweak bound-details.left.text #'() > > I've sta

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

Hi David, > This situation with staccato dots is more complex, however. Gould says: > "Staccato dots and wedges by themselves look best centred on a stem ... > although many editions do centre them on the notehead" (118). Good point. Perhaps it could/should be a parameter? Thanks, Kieren. ___

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

Thanks, David. I'm very much at the stage of using example files and modifying them so that they work for me as far as Lilypond is concerned - and can't even plod through your Scheme function definition to work out what it's doing! 4 bars per line or 8 bars per line will do everything I want - th

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

Hi Kieren, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi David, > > > This situation with staccato dots is more complex, however. Gould says: > "Staccato dots and wedges by themselves look best centred on a stem ... > although many editions do cen

Re: Pianostaff 4-part writing and rests

Kieren MacMillan sympatico.ca> writes: > The linked issue (https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail? id=1228) currently has a > status of “abandoned” — well, at least the associated patch does, if not the whole issue. > > Is there a technical reason why the most up-to-date engraver (e.g

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

Hi Michael, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: > Thanks, David. > > I'm very much at the stage of using example files and modifying them so > that > they work for me as far as Lilypond is concerned - and can't even plod > through your Scheme function definition to work out wh

Re: Pianostaff 4-part writing and rests

Am 25. Januar 2015 21:19:26 MEZ, schrieb Keith OHara : >Kieren MacMillan sympatico.ca> writes: > >> The linked issue (https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail? >id=1228) currently has a >> status of “abandoned” — well, at least the associated patch does, if >not >the whole issue. >> >>

Re: staff polyphony, collisions between ties and beams

Dear Trevor, thanks for Your proposal. It looks much better and I will find the right settings! 2015-01-25 10:27 GMT+01:00 Trevor Daniels : > Hi Stephan > > I think it's a matter of finding the least-ugly arrangement which make it > clear to the pianist what is intended. Perhaps lower the beams

kind of gregorian/ moving noteheads

Dear Developers! In my opinion one of the best music notation software is Lily! It is easy to use for several music style. I am Franciscan nun. I deal with church music. I can use Lily for several notation also Gregorian music. Thank you! At home (Hungary) there is a special notation for easy Gre

Re: Need to suppress bar number checking in midi block

2015-01-25 17:52 GMT+01:00 Michael Hendry : > Does anyone have a solution for this issue? > > Like Michael Ellis, I like to use both "|" and \barNumberCheck to pick up > rhythm errors and missing or duplicated bar that I've made, and I use MIDI > output to pick up wrong notes in my transcriptions.

Re: Need to suppress bar number checking in midi block

2015-01-26 0:20 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > 2015-01-25 17:52 GMT+01:00 Michael Hendry : >> Does anyone have a solution for this issue? >> >> Like Michael Ellis, I like to use both "|" and \barNumberCheck to pick up >> rhythm errors and missing or duplicated bar that I've made, and I use MIDI >> out

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Kieren, > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Kieren MacMillan < > kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> > This situation with staccato dots is more complex, however. Gould >> says: "Staccato dots and wedges by thems

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

Hi, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:50 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, David Nalesnik > wrote: > >> Hi Kieren, >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Kieren MacMillan < >> kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> > This situation with staccato do

repeat, alternative, partial and full bar

Hello, I wonder how to codify correctly this minimal example: \relative c' { \partial 8 \repeat volta 2 { d8 d4 d8 d } \alternative { { d4. s8 } { d2 } } d8 d8 d8 d8 d2 } the s8 is here to fullfill the bar, but take some space and should not. Is there a better way? Thanks in advance! Franck _

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:14 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > It's definitely possible! Using a pointer to a ScriptColumn, the X-offset > callback for Script can be modified to (1) center staccatos over the stem if > no other articulations are present; (2) center them over the note head if > multiple

sus7 chords in \chordmode

I have repeatedly run into difficulties getting Lilypond to properly render sus7 chord names in \chordmode. It comes up with silly things like "G7sus4 3” and the like. What is the correct syntax to get a simple “Gsus7” to print? I’ve tried every combination I can think of. (By the way, I a

CHanging key.size, accidental.size and stem.size in gregorianMusic

Hello, I use these settings now, since this fits in the whole book (using \include's and a mix of gregorian and western-traditional-notation). But the size of Keys, accidentals and stems doesnt fit, and I dont find how to override these... (also #(layout-set-staff-size xx) doesnt have any effect

Re: sus7 chords in \chordmode

2015-01-26 2:18 GMT+01:00 Tim McNamara : > I have repeatedly run into difficulties getting Lilypond to properly render > sus7 chord names in \chordmode. It comes up with silly things like "G7sus4 > 3” and the like. What is the correct syntax to get a simple “Gsus7” to > print? I’ve tried ever

Re: repeat, alternative, partial and full bar

I don't understand. What's the problem with removing the s8? I'm using 2.19.15, 2.18.2, and 2.16.2. Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Ali Cuota wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder how to codify correctly this minimal example: > > \relative c' { > \partial 8 > \repeat volta

Re: sus7 chords in \chordmode

> On Jan 25, 2015, at 7:44 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > > 2015-01-26 2:18 GMT+01:00 Tim McNamara : >> I have repeatedly run into difficulties getting Lilypond to properly render >> sus7 chord names in \chordmode. It comes up with silly things like "G7sus4 >> 3” and the like. What is the correc

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

Hi Jay, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Jay Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:14 PM, David Nalesnik > wrote: > > It's definitely possible! Using a pointer to a ScriptColumn, the > X-offset > > callback for Script can be modified to (1) center staccatos over the > stem if > > no othe

Re: sus7 chords in \chordmode

On 26/01/15 1:16 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: On Jan 25, 2015, at 7:44 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: 2015-01-26 2:18 GMT+01:00 Tim McNamara : I have repeatedly run into difficulties getting Lilypond to properly render sus7 chord names in \chordmode. It comes up with silly things like "G7sus4 3” and t

Re: fret-diagram and chord name

Hi, Lilyponder:There is no reponse to the following email sent Jan 14.  I am hoping someone will answer this time.Immanuel,Ming On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 5:05 PM, MING TSANG wrote: dear lilyponders:I run the following .ly file and got the following warning error.1.  how can th

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:24 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Jay, > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Jay Anderson > wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:14 PM, David Nalesnik >> wrote: >> > It's definitely possible! Using a pointer to a ScriptColumn, the >> X-offset >> > callback for Script

Re: fret-diagram and chord name

Hi, I'm just starting with Lilypond and am using 2.18.2 so I'll just comment on the chord name. I think you should check the notes used at the place of the chord name. If they are e gs b then you have a normal f chord and even though you write it as ef1:sus. If you drop the gs to a "fs" then Lilypo

Re: fret-diagram and chord name

Hi Ming, just after I responded to part of your question I read through another topic. Take a look at the mails about naming a Gsus7 chord. They explain the behaviour I wrote to you about. Namaste, Kevin Tough On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 05:13 +0100, Kevin Tough wrote: > Hi, I'm just starting with Lily

Re: sus7 chords in \chordmode

\version "2.18.0" \include "english.ly" %{ I will try to be careful here since last time I offered help with chords I got mercilessly flamed. There are two stages of lilypond chords: input and formatting. o If either one is incorrect, you won't get what you want. o If one of them is cor

Rehearsal marks and grace notes at the beginning of bars

Hello everyone, I ran into a problem today when I had an instrument with grace notes. It made rehearsal marks between different instruments not line up, printing duplicate rehearsal marks. The fix was to put the grace notes before the rehearsal mark. I was just wondering if this was expected beh

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

>> That's effectively what I'm doing. I'm changing the X-offset >> callback because it's only there that the property >> toward-stem-shift is read (see scm/output-lib.scm). The trick is >> allowing two different concurrent values for toward-stem-shift: 1.0 >> for when the staccato is alone, 0.0

Re: Command Line call to LilyPond with PDF auto open

> From: Matthew James Briggs > Subject: Command Line call to LilyPond with PDF auto open > > When calling LilyPond from the command line (I'm on Mac OS X) like this > > exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond " pathtomy.ly" > > is there a flag to tell the program to open th

Re: sus7 chords in \chordmode

On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:18:52 -0600 Tim McNamara wrote: > I have repeatedly run into difficulties getting Lilypond to properly > render sus7 chord names in \chordmode. It comes up with silly things > like "G7sus4 3” and the like. What is the correct syntax to get a simple > “Gsus7” to print? To