Dear Trevor,
thanks for Your proposal.
It looks much better and I will find the right settings!

2015-01-25 10:27 GMT+01:00 Trevor Daniels <t.dani...@treda.co.uk>:

>  Hi Stephan
>
> I think it's a matter of finding the least-ugly arrangement which make it
> clear to the pianist what is intended.  Perhaps lower the beams slight and
> move the tuplet brackets up a little to make room for the ties.  You could
> reshape the ties a little, but I don't think this improves it much.  Play
> with this:
>
> \version "2.18.2"
> first = {
> %  \shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 0.5) (0 . 0.5) (0 . 0)) Tie
>   cis''''1  ~ cis''''1  ~ cis''''\fermata \bar"|."  }
>
>  second = {
>    \voiceTwo    s2
>    \voiceThree
>    \override TupletBracket padding = 1.7
>    \override Beam positions = #'(4.8 . 4.8)
>    \tuplet 3/2 { a'''8 a''' a''' }  \tuplet 3/2 { a'''\rest[
> a''' a'''\rest] }
>  d''4\rest  \tuplet 3/2 { e'''8\rest a''' a''' } \tuplet 3/2 { a'''[
> a'''\rest a'''] }   e'''4\rest
>
>  }
>  third = {   \ottava #1  \voiceThree  f'''2 \rest   \voiceFour   fis'''2
> ~  fis'''1  ~ fis'''\fermata  }
>
>  alltogether = {
> << {   \voiceOne \first  } \new Voice { \second } \new Voice { \third }
> \new Voice { \voiceFour \transpose c' c \first } >> \oneVoice
>  }
>
>  \score {
>  \new Staff \alltogether
>  }
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Stefan Thomas <kontrapunktste...@gmail.com>
> *To:* lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 25, 2015 8:46 AM
> *Subject:* staff polyphony, collisions between ties and beams
>
>  Dear community,
> I find it difficult to engrave the following three bars.
> How can I avoid collisions between beams and ties?
> Here is the snippet:
>
> \version "2.18.2"
> first = {  cis''''1  ~ cis''''1  ~ cis''''\fermata \bar"|."  }
>
>  second = {
>    \voiceTwo    s2
>    \voiceThree \tuplet 3/2 { a'''8 a''' a''' }  \tuplet 3/2 { a'''\rest[
> a''' a'''\rest] }
>  d''4\rest  \tuplet 3/2 { e'''8\rest a''' a''' } \tuplet 3/2 { a'''[
> a'''\rest a'''] }   e'''4\rest
>
>  }
>  third = {   \ottava #1  \voiceThree  f'''2 \rest   \voiceFour   fis'''2
> ~  fis'''1  ~ fis'''\fermata  }
>
>  alltogether = {
> << {   \voiceOne \first  } \new Voice { \second } \new Voice { \third }
> \new Voice { \voiceFour \transpose c' c \first } >> \oneVoice
>  }
>
>  \score {
>  \new Staff \alltogether
>  }
>
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