System Start Delimiter to f or transparent

2006-12-24 Thread Mehmet Okonsar
can a staff be removed from the system start delimiter... I mean the left hand barline running through all staves be stopped for one particular staff.. (difficult question) -- Mehmet Okonsar, pianist-composer-conductor www.okonsar.com ___ lilypond-use

Re: combined tenuto + accent

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Thanks for the report, entered as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=186 Please note that this is a feature request which is much harder to implement than it may initially appear; it may be a while until this new feature is added. Cheers, - Graham yota moteuchi wrote: Hi,

Re: newbie questions

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: 1) in measure number 4 of the score, the beam in the 3rd quarter note of the right hand is slightly slanted *upwards*, not downwards as it should be; Agree! This seems to be related to how widely spaced the music is, as can be seen in the following small example: \versio

Re: newbie questions

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: 2) from measure 4 to 5, in the right hand a note with an accidental is tied across the line break, the accidental in the following note (beginning m. 5) collides with the tie; You may find something useful if you search the mailing list archives, the problem looks famili

Re: newbie questions

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: 3) at the end of m. 6 there's again a note tied to the following measure across the line break, but since there's a clef change in the left hand, the tie ends before the line. I cannot recall having seen exactly this problem mentioned earlier. Here's a minimal example: \

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Hello Werner, Am 23/12/2006 um 07:46 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I am a professional musician and an experienced music teacher. I would even be willing to write a first chapter of a User's Guide for the Very Beginner. Please go on! Either send patches or, in case you aren't satisfied with cha

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Fine! I have now written the following, and am posting it here for > general criticism. I like it! Thanks for your work. This is indeed a kind of a first-time starter which I would not be able to write. Graham, do you have some time to include something like this into the manual. We

Re: uniform-stretching

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Orm Finnendahl wrote: Hi Han-Wen, Am 16. Dezember 2006, 16:48 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: segfaults are always serious errors. Please send the offending input. This caused the segfault: \acciacatura s32 Do you mean \acciaccatura ? When complaining about a bug, please include a c

Re: empty page template suggestion

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Martijn Vromans wrote: Since I notate pianomusic with 2 or more staves, it's rather practical to remove the clef and set the indentation to zero. Here it is as I use it. It's only a slight modification. Excuse me for the bad indentation, but this is not copied well into my e-mail. Thanks, add

Re: midi2ly doesn't respect the --key

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
yota moteuchi wrote: When I try to extract a piece from a midi file which is in f major (1 flat) I do midi2ly --key=-1 "myfile.mid" the resulting file have indeed a nice \key f \major printed on top but all the 'bes' are noted as 'ais' The problem being that a text replacement mess up the rela

Re: point-n-click again

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Laura Conrad wrote: "David" == David Bobroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> (server-start) David> ...in my .emacs file. Now I can open a *.ly file and click on a note in David> the PDF without opening a new instance of Emacs. It does *not* however David> go to the corre

Re: sometimes with bar dashed ..

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Mehmet Okonsar wrote: Strange: not always but sometimes I get the following error when I use \bar "dashed" in version 2.10.2 Please construct a small example that always produces the bug, and send it to the bug mailist. - Graham ___ lilypond-use

Re: two-pass line/page breaking and lilypond-book -- example/docs?

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
Arvid Grøtting wrote: I was browsing through the 2.11.2 docs today looking for documentation for two-pass line/page breaking. Unfortunately, all I found was a reference to a regression test that I didn't quite understand. I understand even less about the two-pass stuff. What I'd like to do i

Re: Getting involved

2006-12-24 Thread Till Rettig
Thank you Jan. So I tried now to get the diff with git (this is how I understand the command below. It seems there is quite a lot of addition, especially at the windows installation pages. Is there a way of applying them automatically to the already translated files so they would at least be up

Re: Getting involved

2006-12-24 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thank you Jan. So I tried now to get the diff with git (this is how I > understand the command below. It seems there is quite a lot of > addition, especially at the windows installation pages. No, the diff that you you see in cygwin.html is bogus, the fil

Re: Getting involved

2006-12-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Jan Nieuwenhuizen escreveu: >> Second the translation so far is in my opinion too familiar -- I >> think it should be more polite, as to demonstrate that lilypond is >> really capable of doing demanding work with good typography and that >> it might really (and in my opinion also *should*) be used

Re: Two notes per syllable and two syllables per note

2006-12-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Saturday 23 December 2006 07:42, Eduardo Vieira wrote: > In the two syllables for one note you have 3 ways of doing it (And the > manual is *very clear in the first two ones, just check it in the section > of "entering lyrics"): > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Enterin

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 24 December 2006 08:01, Manuel wrote: > Chapter One. > > > Open a new LilyPond window and write this inside: > > > { c' d' e' f' g' a' b' c' ' } > > > Save the file and then select "Typeset file" from the "Compile" menu. What OS are you on? I open a Kwrite window and type "lilypon

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Pierre, I'm glad you liked it. English is not my mother language, as you can see. So, thank you very much for all spelling corrections! As far as I can see, they are all quite right. Am 24/12/2006 um 18:01 schrieb Pierre Abbat: What OS are you on? I open a Kwrite window and type "lilypon

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Here it is again. I ran it through a spell check in TexEdit and found even more mistakes, now corrected. All of them? Manuel LilyPond's Beginners Guide for the Very Beginner Chapter One. Open a new LilyPond window and write this inside: { c' d' e' f' g' a' b' c' ' } Sav

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 24 December 2006 12:39, Manuel wrote: > I work with Mac OS X. I don't know what Kwrite is (what is your OS?) > I have assumed - perhaps erroneously - than for all OS's it was > possible to just "open a new LilyPond window". I select "new" from > the "File" menu or press "command-n" and th

RE: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Manuel This looks pretty good. Others have commented on the spelling. My only comment is the first few sentences assume a particular OS and implementation which a beginner using MS XP and the standard Lilypond binary would find very perplexing. I'm not sure how to get round this, but perhaps a

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Joe Neeman
On 12/24/06, Manuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here it is again. I ran it through a spell check in TexEdit and found even more mistakes, now corrected. All of them? You can analyze the exercise and see that a third has been preferred to a sixth, a quarter to a fifth, etc. Now in this mode,

Re: Two-Pass Vertical Spacing

2006-12-24 Thread Joe Neeman
>This is almost certainly because the height-estimation routines are >overestimating the height of the systems prior to page breaking on the >second pass. Can you try it (perhaps just the first couple of pages) with >annotate-spacing = ##t to check? If the Y-extent-estimate interval is much >large

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Trevor, Thank you for your feedback. I have just posted a corrected version of the text, I hope it is now as it should be? Indeed you are right, I am using Mac OS X and assumed - wrongly, I see - that opening a "LilyPond window" was the usual thing in all operating systems. Maybe the firs

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Christopher A. LaFond
Manuel wrote: Add full stops for dotted or double doted notes: g4. "stop" may not seem obvious to all. In America, we use the word "period"; I don't know what is used in other English speaking countries. My recommendation is "Add full stops (periods) for dotted or double dotted notes:" -

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Hello Joe, Am 24/12/2006 um 20:00 schrieb Joe Neeman: At least in my experience, the interval from, for example, G to the C above is always referred to as a "fourth," not a "quarter." I'm sure you are right. My English needs you. "fourth", not "quarter", it should be. Manuel __

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Am 24/12/2006 um 20:30 schrieb Christopher A. LaFond: "stop" may not seem obvious to all. In America, we use the word "period"; I don't know what is used in other English speaking countries. My recommendation is "Add full stops (periods) for dotted or double dotted notes:" Christopher,

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Johan Vromans
Manuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The exercises you have done so far should enable you to write any > simple melody. As you are surely aware, we have not said anything yet > about tuplets, lyrics, polyphony and many other things. If you wonder > wether you can do this or that with LilyPond, the

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Johan, Thank you! I have now corrected wether to whether (how did this escape the TexEdit spell check?). I don't understand the "this or that" correction, I meant it in the sense of "something or other". Would you explain, please? Is the expression "is very probably" in bad english or are

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Here is the whole thing again, including Jay's suggestions and other corrections Manuel LilyPond's Beginners Guide for the Very Beginner Chapter One. If you are using a Mac, open a new LilyPond window. If you are working with Linux... Then write this inside: { c' d' e' f' g

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 49, Issue 102

2006-12-24 Thread Will Oram
On Dec 24, 2006, at 1.04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Joe Neeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Two-Pass Vertical Spacing To: "William Oram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is a

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:10, Manuel wrote: > Johan, > > Thank you! I have now corrected wether to whether (how did this > escape the TexEdit spell check?). "wether" is a valid word, meaning "sheep" (most often in "bellwether", the sheep who wears a bell to lead the other sheep). Whether the

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:34, Manuel wrote: > I'm sure you are right. My English needs you. "fourth", not > "quarter", it should be. The duration of a note, however, is a quarter. phma ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://li

Dear Lilypond Development team, I love you

2006-12-24 Thread James Bailey
As a person who is migrating to linux from OSX, I love you. I found an older version of lilypond in the ubuntu package manager, and today, as I was downloading lilypond for my intel iMac, I noticed the powerpc build of lilypond. Whoever is responsible for this, I thank you. ___

osx intel broken?

2006-12-24 Thread James Bailey
wow, just as I was praising the appearance of a ppc version, I'm a little confused, I downloaded both 2.10 and 2.11 for intel macintosh, and after unpacking the archives, they appear to be PPC programs that won't run on my new iMac. I know I've used this software on this computer before I r

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Am 24/12/2006 um 23:10 schrieb Pierre Abbat: Whether the wether is out with the shepherd at night depends on the weather. ;) Great! But why are we still hiding empty staves? I'm sure you are right. My English needs you. "fourth", not "quarter", it should be. The duration of a note, howev

Re: Polyphony doubleslurs to chord

2006-12-24 Thread Ezequiel Sierra
<< { c8 [ d8 ] } \\ { fis,4 } ( ) >> i want to have a double slur from the c8 and fis,4 to the chord c> i have doubleslurs ##t but it only gives one slur ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/li

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-24 Thread Bonnie Rogers
Manuel wrote: Here is the whole thing again, including Jay's suggestions and other corrections Manuel LilyPond's Beginners Guide for the Very Beginner Just a quibble, but in English we'd be more likely to say "Complete Beginner" or maybe "Absolute Beginner" or even "Complete and

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:16, Manuel wrote: > I have no knowledge whatsoever about Linux, so maybe Pierre, or you, > or any Linux user could complete the text where I put the "..." as > well as any other necessary instructions for " invoking a lp > compilation". It depends on your desktop. GNO

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Am 25/12/2006 um 01:24 schrieb Pierre Abbat: On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:16, Manuel wrote: I have no knowledge whatsoever about Linux, so maybe Pierre, or you, or any Linux user could complete the text where I put the "..." as well as any other necessary instructions for " invoking a lp comp

Re: osx intel broken?

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
James Bailey wrote: wow, just as I was praising the appearance of a ppc version, I'm a little confused, I downloaded both 2.10 and 2.11 for intel macintosh, and after unpacking the archives, they appear to be PPC programs that won't run on my new iMac. I know I've used this software on this co

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-24 Thread Manuel
Thank you, Bonnie. I'll change the text with your corrections as soon as I have slept a couple of hours (it has been a long and beautiful day). But I do think you are right: I should stick with instructions for Mac OS X and not get into all those Linux and Windows things I don't know. It

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:39, Manuel wrote: > So, would the following be a clear way to put it? > > > Chapter One. > > > If you are using a Mac, open a new LilyPond window. > > If you are working with Linux open a new file in a plain txt editor > (e.g. kwrite music.ly; music.ly; emacs music ly)

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-24 Thread David Fedoruk
Hello: I've been watching this discussion or debate. There are two ways to look at this problem. The first is from a programmer's point of view where the programmer is experienced with some computer languages, these days its upper level languages more and more. For these people, lilypond typesett

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-24 Thread Joe Neeman
On 12/21/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Erik Sandberg escreveu: > BTW, in this case it may be good to register the fraction as its own argument > type, so \tuplets and \tuplet are generic music functions, both with > signature > (tuplet-fraction? music?) it would be cool if we