Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 04/08/2013 17:22, Trevor Daniels wrote: and...@andis59.se wrote Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:28 PM One of the "problems" with Vista is the UAC and you need to have sufficient rights to write and create files and directories under \Program Files. Have you tried to run L

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

ot;problems" with Vista is the UAC and you need to have sufficient rights to write and create files and directories under \Program Files. Have you tried to run Lilypond as Administrator? // Anders From what I could tell, it looks like the directory came with LilyPond. At least it exists on

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 04/08/2013 13:41, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: "Robert Honore" OK - this is what I get part way through my lilypond verbose output: Initializing FontConfig... Adding font directory: C:/Program Files (x86)/LilyPondV2.16.2/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf Buildi

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

and...@andis59.se wrote Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:28 PM > One of the "problems" with Vista is the UAC and you need to have > sufficient rights to write and create files and directories under > \Program Files. > > Have you tried to run Lilypond as Administrator? I d

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

>Initializing FontConfig... >Adding font directory: >C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf >Building font database...^C Maybe a stupid question but... Has the directory above been created? One of the "problems" with Vista is the UAC and you ne

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

- Original Message - From: "Robert Honore" To: Cc: "Urs Liska" ; "David Nalesnik" ; "lilypond-user" Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 6:02 PM Subject: Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista? On 02/08/2013 18:34, Federi

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 02/08/2013 18:34, Federico Bruni wrote: 2013/8/2 Robert Honoré mailto:robert.hon...@gmail.com>> Please find attached lilypond_debug_log.txt and craptastic-1.ly . I can compile it on linux using version 2.16.2 I get a warning about encoding of file: craptast

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Robert Honore writes: > On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 18:03:57 -0700 David Rogers wrote: > >> Robert: It seems to me that you are working very hard to outsmart >> Lilypond, doing tricks that "should theoretically work if..." some >> particular obscure unreliable condition is met. > > David Rogers, let me a

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 18:03:57 -0700 David Rogers wrote: Robert: It seems to me that you are working very hard to outsmart Lilypond, doing tricks that "should theoretically work if..." some particular obscure unreliable condition is met. David Rogers, let me assure you that I most certainly _DO

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Robert Honoré writes: > It usually does once I change the version string. I had sent the one > that worked with my previous installation of lilypond (2.12.3). > Usually, when I do an upgrade, I would change the version string once I > get the error message when I attempt to process it. > That is

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

2013/8/2 Robert Honoré > Please find attached lilypond_debug_log.txt and craptastic-1.ly. > I can compile it on linux using version 2.16.2 I get a warning about encoding of file: craptastic-1.ly <0>: warning: non-UTF-8 input composer = "Robert Honor �" In fact it's: $ file craptastic-1.l

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 02/08/2013 08:17, bb wrote: > Am 02.08.2013 13:56, schrieb Robert Honoré: >> \version "2.6.0" >> \header { >>title = "Serial 1" >>composer = "Robert Honore" >> } >> >> global = { >> \time 4/4 >> } >> >> themeOne = \relative c' {d4 e fis a | cis b a f | >> << a1 fis e d >> | << ci

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Am 02.08.2013 13:56, schrieb Robert Honoré: \version "2.6.0" \header { title = "Serial 1" composer = "Robert Honore" } global = { \time 4/4 } themeOne = \relative c' {d4 e fis a | cis b a f | << a1 fis e d >> | << cis'1 b a f >> | ees2 g4 aes4 | c bes <> | <> << a2 fis e d >> | <>

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 02/08/2013 08:17, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Robert Honoré > wrote: > > On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote: > > [...] > > > > If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email. > > > > H

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Robert Honoré wrote: I am attempting a complete cleanup ... This would include deleting the font cache, or rather: _all_ lilypond font caches. I had a mix-up with these caches (on XP) with somewhat similar symptoms. Check out the thread ending in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-us

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 02/08/2013 12:47, Robin Bannister wrote: > Robert Honoré wrote: > >> I am attempting a complete cleanup ... > > This would include deleting the font cache, > or rather: _all_ lilypond font caches. > > I had a mix-up with these caches (on XP) > with somewhat similar symptoms. > Check out the

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 02/08/2013 08:17, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Robert Honoré > wrote: > > On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote: > > [...] > > > > If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email. > > > > H

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Am 02.08.2013 14:17, schrieb David Nalesnik: Hi Robert, On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Robert Honoré mailto:robert.hon...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote: [...] > If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email. > Here it is, then. This ex

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Hi Robert, On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Robert Honoré wrote: > On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote: > > [...] > > If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email. > > > > Here it is, then. > This example file is very old. When I try to run it (under 2.17.23), I get a warning "file

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 02.08.2013 01:24, schrieb Robert Honore: >> On 01/08/2013 19:15, Urs Liska wrote: >>> From what you wrote about lilypond --version I don't think the problem >>> lies there. But it's probably a good idea to send the file anyway. >>> >>> Urs >> Ok. What's

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 2013-08-02 03:48, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: To answer your question more directly, I first ran the command, "lilypond --version" at the command line. After a very long time, it returned the following text. It's perfectly normal that it takes extra time the first time you call Lil

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Am 02.08.2013 01:24, schrieb Robert Honore: On 01/08/2013 19:15, Urs Liska wrote: From what you wrote about lilypond --version I don't think the problem lies there. But it's probably a good idea to send the file anyway. Urs Ok. What's the procedure for sending the file? Yours sincerely, Rob

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Robert Honore wrote Friday, August 02, 2013 12:00 AM >> On 02/08/13 05:49, Robert Honore wrote: >>> Even if I try to double-click on the lilypond icon right now, the result >>> I get is that the lilypond executable appears to start, and then it >>> seems to just sit there. Then I would use the t

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 01/08/2013 13:33, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Robert" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:05 PM > Subject: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista? > > >> I have Windows Vista Version 6.0.6002 Service Pa

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 01/08/2013 19:15, Urs Liska wrote: > From what you wrote about lilypond --version I don't think the problem > lies there. But it's probably a good idea to send the file anyway. > > Urs Ok. What's the procedure for sending the file? Yours sincerely, Robert Honoré. __

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

>From what you wrote about lilypond --version I don't think the problem lies >there. But it's probably a good idea to send the file anyway. Urs Robert Honore schrieb: >Urs Liska wrote: > >> Do you have an input file? >> What is in the source code window when you click "engrave" in >Frescobal

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Urs Liska wrote: > Do you have an input file? > What is in the source code window when you click "engrave" in Frescobaldi? Yes, I have an input file that I had processed successfully before. In the source code window of Frescobaldi, I have the text of that file visible. You want me to send that

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Nick Payne wrote: > On 02/08/13 05:49, Robert Honore wrote: >> Even if I try to double-click on the lilypond icon right now, the result >> I get is that the lilypond executable appears to start, and then it >> seems to just sit there. Then I would use the task manager to see if >> the executable

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 02/08/13 05:49, Robert Honore wrote: Even if I try to double-click on the lilypond icon right now, the result I get is that the lilypond executable appears to start, and then it seems to just sit there. Then I would use the task manager to see if the executable ran at all, and I would find (

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Am 01.08.2013 21:49, schrieb Robert Honore: On 01/08/2013 15:15, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: "Robert Honore" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:25 PM Subject: Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista? On 01

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

On 01/08/2013 15:15, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Robert Honore" > > To: "Phil Holmes" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista? > >

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

Zitat von Phil Holmes : - Original Message - From: "Robert Honore" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:25 PM Subject: Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista? On 01/08/2013 13:33, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

- Original Message - From: "Robert Honore" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:25 PM Subject: Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista? On 01/08/2013 13:33, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: "Rob

Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

- Original Message - From: "Robert" To: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:05 PM Subject: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista? I have Windows Vista Version 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 Build 6002. I installed Lilypond 2.16.2 and I have since been unable to ge

anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

I have Windows Vista Version6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 Build 6002. I installed Lilypond 2.16.2 and I have since been unable to get Lilypond to run successfully. Whenever I start Lilypond, the executable appears to start up, but does not apparently make any progress. It just sits there after

Re: vista

> I have been trying to install the software without success. I > downloaded the windows vista version. When I click on the > desktop icon, a text file welcome me. I follow the instruction > and it creates a pdf file of a scale. I can't seem to open the > program more

Re: vista

success. I downloaded the windons vista version. When I click on the desktop incon, a text file welcome me. I follow the instruction and it creates a pdf file of a scale. I can't seem to open the program more that that. Antoine ___ bug-lil

Re: Lilypond & Windows Vista

Frida van Leeuwen wrote: Is is possible to run Lilypond on a notebook with Windows Vista, ore is a Vista-version coming out soon? Your program seems pretty interesting to me! Frida ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http

Lilypond & Windows Vista

Is is possible to run Lilypond on a notebook with Windows Vista, ore is a Vista-version coming out soon? Your program seems pretty interesting to me! Frida ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

"Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I couldn't find either of these files anywhere on my machine. I >> unchecked the DST box and ran the program a couple of times. No, >> change. >The leading dot in the name makes these system or hidden files. That's how Unix works, not Windows. Files

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Tim Slattery wrote: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Vista fix for LilyPond releases for and after 2.11.42 is to uncheck the "Automatically adjust .." box, delete ~/.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 and run LilyPond again to rebuild the cache. The "Automat

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

"Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The Vista fix for LilyPond releases for and after 2.11.42 is to uncheck the >"Automatically adjust .." box, delete ~/.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 and run >LilyPond again to rebuild the cache. The "Automatically ad

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

s if the cache is first built during a daylight saving period when the system is set to automatically adjust the clock for daylight saving. The Vista fix for LilyPond releases for and after 2.11.42 is to uncheck the "Automatically adjust .." box, delete ~/.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 and run

RE: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

I'm running Vista with daylight saving enabled. Installed 2.11.64. First build of a test file took 44 seconds. Second build took 1 second. However, I didn't have the problem previously, even though I'd installed 2.11.63 with DST enabled, so I don't know that my system is

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I´ve patched fontconfig in 2.11.64 to use a consistent stat() call > everywhere. Can you check if it fixes the DST/font cache problem? This fixed the problem for me on Windows XP SP3. LilyPond now seems as fast as it

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

"Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The Vista fix for LilyPond releases for and after 2.11.42 is to uncheck the >"Automatically adjust .." box, delete ~/.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 and run >LilyPond again to rebuild the cache. The "Automatically ad

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

f the causes of the cache > rebuild problem. I've always had the "Automatically adjust ..." box ticked, > and have never experienced any problems, but then, my cache was first > built in March, before the daylight-saving period began here. So in > summary, in seems tha

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

, but then, my cache was first > built in March, before the daylight-saving period began here. So in > summary, in seems that the problem occurs if the cache is first built > during a daylight saving period when the system is set to automatically > adjust the clock for daylight savin

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

n summary, in seems that the problem occurs if the cache is first built during a daylight saving period when the system is set to automatically adjust the clock for daylight saving. The Vista fix for LilyPond releases for and after 2.11.42 is to uncheck the "Automatically adjust .." box, del

Re: [SOLVED] Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What I have not tried is re-checking the automatic daylight-savings > adjustment box to see if it reverts to the old behavior of always rebuilding > the fontconfig cache. If you'd like me to do this for the sake of testing, > I will. If my experien

Re: [SOLVED] Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Does Valentin have another one? :-) Updated in http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=FAQ but still waiting to confirm this. This page should not convert itself into the poor's bugtracker, so if this gets more clear p

Re: [SOLVED] Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

NOT rebuilt again. The difference in speed between Vista and > Ubuntu compiling a lilypond file is now negligible, measured in fractions of > a second instead of minutes. Perhaps this tip should be posted somewhere > official, as a warning on the download page for installing on Vista o

[SOLVED] Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

esh), and after the first run, the cache was NOT rebuilt again. The difference in speed between Vista and Ubuntu compiling a lilypond file is now negligible, measured in fractions of a second instead of minutes. Perhaps this tip should be posted somewhere official, as a warning on the do

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Hi Jon, 2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Trevor Daniels wrote: >> >> >> Yes. Could you check the creation date of the large cache file, >> and if that date is within your daylight saving period try >> deleting the entire lilypond font cache, ie delete the >> .lilypond-fonts.cache-2

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Trevor Daniels wrote: This suggests that the cache is believed to be invalid because the cache timestamp doesn't match the directory create-time. Thought to be due to incorrect correction for daylight-saving time. My cache was created on 21 March 2008, just over a week before the UK moved into

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Trevor Daniels wrote: Yes. Could you check the creation date of the large cache file, and if that date is within your daylight saving period try deleting the entire lilypond font cache, ie delete the .lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory so the font cache is rebuilt from scratch. Maybe a long sho

RE: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

My Vista machine was built and Lilypond installed while daylight saving was active (still is active here in the Australian summer). Apart from an update to the font cache that seems to have happened a few days ago as a result of including an em dash in a score, my font cache doesn't u

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Jonathan Kulp wrote Friday, November 14, 2008 7:49 PM Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/14 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have only upgraded a couple of times, and it was in response to this thread, just to test it out. It's possible that I upgraded one more time before that. I always u

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

is the problem exactly. Every other case of slowness on Windows, both XP and Vista, which has been examined closely has resulted in the same conclusion. The question is, what causes it to happen? Not sure, but this fontconfig bug report looks really interesting, and could be related:

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

ly. Every other case of slowness on Windows, > both XP and Vista, which has been examined closely has resulted in the > same conclusion. The question is, what causes it to happen? Not sure, but this fontconfig bug report looks really interesting, and could be related: https://bugs.freedeskto

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008/11/14 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > (Either way it's incredibly slow. Why is it so much > slower on Windows than on Linux?) It has always been, since I can remember. Nobody seems to know why. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/14 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have only upgraded a couple of times, and it was in response to this thread, just to test it out. It's possible that I upgraded one more time before that. I always use the Add/Remove program tool built into Windows, accessed

RE: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

I have a Vista Business system installed a week ago that has LP 2.11.63 on it - no upgrade from an older version. The large font file in C:\Users\Nick\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 has the most recent date stamp of the files in that dir, and is dated 12th November, which is last Wednesday, so it'

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/14 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have only upgraded a couple of times, and it was in response to this thread, just to test it out. It's possible that I upgraded one more time before that. I always use the Add/Remove program tool built into Windows, accessed

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008/11/14 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have only upgraded a couple of times, and it was in response to this > thread, just to test it out. It's possible that I upgraded one more time > before that. I always use the Add/Remove program tool built into Windows, > accessed by the Control P

RE: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

> Does the Windows Add/Remove GUI use this uninstall.exe file or does it use > something else? The application's install routine is supposed to make an entry in the Add/Remove list that includes a pointer to its own uninstaller. Assuming this entry was made correctly, there should be no diffe

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Jonathan Kulp wrote: I have only upgraded a couple of times, and it was in response to this thread, just to test it out. It's possible that I upgraded one more time before that. I always use the Add/Remove program tool built into Windows, accessed by the Control Panel. On Linux I always ru

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Trevor Daniels wrote: OK, Jonathan, thanks. Let's see if we together can get a bit further with solving this problem since we have very similar systems - mine works, yours doesn't - so all we have to do is find what is different. I'd bet it is something to do with the different history of L

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

ion of windows versions; I'm not talking about XP vs. Vista but rather distinctions in minor version numbers, and perhaps changes that vendor do on top of that. For some versions, the fontconfig cache ends up not getting written (permission problems?) or getting recreated all the time. Once L

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Simon Dahlbacka wrote Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:59 PM The problem is that the problem is often hard to diagnose and reproduce without having the afflicted machine at hand. In general, my takeaway from it is that shipping software on top of Windows is a religious experience. You can never b

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Patrick McCarty wrote Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:34 PM On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't understand the technical issues, but on Vista the fonts are contained in ~\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2. (To see these make sure you have the

RE: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

> > it sits for almost 50 seconds, apparently doing NOTHING. Then it wakes > > up and processes the file. It's still usable, but it sure slows things > > down. > > Hi Tim, > > just to be sure: which 2.11 version are you referring to? It's 2.10.33 > (and have you deleted the fontconfig cache b

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't understand the technical issues, but on Vista > the fonts are contained in ~\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2. > (To see these make sure you have the options set in > Windows Explorer to Sh

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

cache first, so they don't interfere with the result. Also, could you confirm if you run with full administrator privileges or as an ordinary user? /Mats Sorry, Mats, I forgot your last request. I was running with full admin privileges. It's Vista Home Premium on a Toshiba U305 13.

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

ninstaller I deleted the cache files from the 2.11.63-1 installation. While Vista does run much slower in general than my Linux machines, I don't think it's the OS slowing Lilypond down in this case. I'm pretty sure there's no virus problems either since I hardly ever co

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

> > > The problem is that the problem is often hard to diagnose and > reproduce without having the afflicted machine at hand. In general, > my takeaway from it is that shipping software on top of Windows is a > religious experience. You can never be sure that it works, so you have > to pray a lot.

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

gt;; "Tim Slattery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista Trevor, I wouldnt look in the first place at problems of Lilypond. I presume that it is a problem of Vista which has too many proces

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

windows versions; I'm not talking about XP vs. Vista but rather distinctions in minor version numbers, and perhaps changes that vendor do on top of that. For some versions, the fontconfig cache ends up not getting written (permission problems?) or getting recreated all the time. Once LilyPo

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Trevor is correct. Every instance of lilypond slowness was caused by fontconfig caches. The problem is that there are a bazillion of windows versions; I'm not talking about XP vs

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008/11/13 Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The problem is that the problem is often hard to diagnose and > reproduce without having the afflicted machine at hand. In general, > my takeaway from it is that shipping software on top of Windows is a > religious experience. You can never be sur

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The slowness is certainly not inherently due to Vista > as LilyPond has always run fine under Vista here. The > slowness issue was discussed at some length back in > March 08 on both -user and -bug when

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Trevor, I wouldnt look in the first place at problems of Lilypond. I presume that it is a problem of Vista which has too many processes running in the background. You will find, that nearly all programs run slower on this OS. And even when you only need 10 seconds it is too much compared to what

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Trevor Daniels wrote: Jonathan The slowness is certainly not inherently due to Vista as LilyPond has always run fine under Vista here. The slowness issue was discussed at some length back in March 08 on both -user and -bug when it was determined that it was due to font building. This is almost c

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

iels wrote: Jonathan The slowness is certainly not inherently due to Vista as LilyPond has always run fine under Vista here. The slowness issue was discussed at some length back in March 08 on both -user and -bug when it was determined that it was due to font building. This is almost certainly is ca

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

iels wrote: Jonathan The slowness is certainly not inherently due to Vista as LilyPond has always run fine under Vista here. The slowness issue was discussed at some length back in March 08 on both -user and -bug when it was determined that it was due to font building. This is almost certainly is ca

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Jonathan The slowness is certainly not inherently due to Vista as LilyPond has always run fine under Vista here. The slowness issue was discussed at some length back in March 08 on both -user and -bug when it was determined that it was due to font building. This is almost certainly is cause of

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

ilypond (typical .ly file compile times are about 5+/-2 seconds from my > memory), but I have a Vista machine (newer, wife uses mainly) and an older > machine running Ubuntu for now at home. I want to get her used to the idea > of Linux and make the switch the next time Vista crashes hard

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: > > Could any of you Vista users, try to run LilyPond from the command line > with the --verbose flag, to see what step of the compilation process > takes most time? > "Building font database"

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Carl Sorensen byu.edu> writes: > Have you checked that it's slow the _second_ time you run a file? It will be > slow the first time it runs because it needs to build a font cache, but > successive times should not be slow. > > Please let us know if it stays slow. Slow every time.

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008/11/12 Bailey James E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That would slow it down. Lilypond creates the fontconfig cache the first > time it runs. Deleting it would mean that lilypond would need to recreate > it, thus increasing processing time. ... only once, the first time. Right? -- Francisco Vila. B

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

I also run Win Xp SP2 on my laptop (work provided) which is where I usually run Lilypond (typical .ly file compile times are about 5+/-2 seconds from my memory), but I have a Vista machine (newer, wife uses mainly) and an older machine running Ubuntu for now at home. I want to get her used to

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Could any of you Vista users, try to run LilyPond from the command line with the --verbose flag, to see what step of the compilation process takes most time? /Mats Quoting Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Tim Slattery wrote: Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Bailey James E. wrote: Your answer has one tip (also mentioned previously in this thread) that I haven't tried--I haven't deleted the fontconfig cache. I'll try to find it, delete, reinstall, and run again to see if it improves performance. That would slow it down. Lilypond creates the fontc

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

It was Ubuntu 8.10 but XP SP2 and I took the time measure from Lilypond. Of course I ran the tests several times. On XP I only ran the necessary processes and the compile times were stable. Ubuntu was right out of the box and compile times differed. I switched back to XP for it was easier for me to

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Am 12.11.2008 um 21:02 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/12 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: For the sake of testing, I booted into my Vista Home Premium partition and installed the latest Lilypond binary from the download page. I ran a lilypond file once and i

Re:LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

"Hajo Dezelski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thinkpad x61sNewUbuntu (Linux)Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB4-5 s Thinkpad x61sNewXP Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB2 s Only one data point but interesting: Faster on WinXP than on Ubuntu. Was it the latest of each? i.e. Ubun

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/12 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: For the sake of testing, I booted into my Vista Home Premium partition and installed the latest Lilypond binary from the download page. I ran a lilypond file once and it took about 90 seconds, then ran it a second time

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008/11/12 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > For the sake of testing, I booted into my Vista Home Premium partition and > installed the latest Lilypond binary from the download page. I ran a > lilypond file once and it took about 90 seconds, then ran it a second time > and it

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

Tim Slattery wrote: Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 545 Defect Verified Medium v.villenaveLilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista Performance fixed_2_11_43 Rob, Have you checked that it's slow the _second_ time you run a file? It will be slow the fi

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008/11/12 Tim Slattery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > it sits for almost 50 seconds, apparently doing NOTHING. Then it wakes > up and processes the file. It's still usable, but it sure slows things > down. Hi Tim, just to be sure: which 2.11 version are you referring to? (and have you deleted the font

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