Re: The \shape command and tieWaitForNote

2025-05-12 Thread Knute Snortum
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 12:37 AM Thomas Morley wrote: > See https://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1191 > > HTH, > Harm > Thank you. -- Knute Snortum

Re: The \shape command and tieWaitForNote

2025-05-12 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Mo., 12. Mai 2025 um 01:28 Uhr schrieb Knute Snortum : > > Hello again, LlilyPonders. > > I think I have discovered an unreported bug in both 2.24.4 and 2.25.26, but > I'd like to run it past y'all first. > > If you set tieWaitForNote, the inner ties ca

The \shape command and tieWaitForNote

2025-05-11 Thread Knute Snortum
Hello again, LlilyPonders. I think I have discovered an unreported bug in both 2.24.4 and 2.25.26, but I'd like to run it past y'all first. If you set tieWaitForNote, the inner ties cannot be changed with the \shape command. The outer tie works as expected. Here's a MWE:

How to shape the second tie after tieWaitForNote = ##t?

2024-09-28 Thread Knute Snortum
I am trying to change the shape of two ties after tieWaitForNote is set to true. If I use the \shape command, the second tie is not affected. Here is an MWE: %%% \version "2.24.4" tieShapeA = \shape #'((0 . -1) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0)) \etc tieShapeB = \shape #'((0 . 1) (0

RE: tieWaitForNote

2015-11-23 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
: tieWaitForNote Am 24.11.2015 um 06:53 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: > Everything is correct except that the ties do not appear. What is my error? If you really want these note length values you need a << >> construct but without \\ because that would create new Voices. The only new Voice

Re: tieWaitForNote

2015-11-23 Thread Malte Meyn
d is the one for the rest because LilyPond cannot put a r8 and a g4. to the same stem (that’s what it tries if you use << >> without \\). \version "2.18.2" \relative c { \key e \minor \time 6/8 \set tieWaitForNote = ##t \tieDown << \new Voice { \

RE: tieWaitForNote

2015-11-23 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hwaen Ch'uqi, Thank you for your reply. I shall try your suggestion. Mark -Original Message- From: Hwaen Ch'uqi [mailto:hwaench...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:13 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user Mailinglist Subject: Re: tieWaitForNote Greeting

Re: tieWaitForNote

2015-11-23 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
? Something like \relative c'' { \key e \minor \clef treble \time 6/8 \set tieWaitForNote = ##t g,8~ b~ d~ 4. } And then manipulate ties individually if needed? Hwaen Ch'uqi On 11/24/15, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > Hello, > > > > Everything is correct except that the

tieWaitForNote

2015-11-23 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hello, Everything is correct except that the ties do not appear. What is my error? \version "2.18.2" \relative c'' { \clef treble \key e \minor \time 6/8 << {b8\rest s \set tieWaitForNote = ##t d,~ } \\ {\se

Re: Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Werner, any suggestions for _not_ using a tie in that manner? For me, a tie lengthens a time value of a given pitch; it has no other meaning. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lil

Re: Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-22 Thread David Kastrup
Malte Meyn writes: > Am 21.11.2015 um 20:30 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Urs Liska writes: >> >>> Thanks, that makes things clearer. This is definitely what I >>> suggested. The "outer" slur is not a tie but a phrasing slur and the >>> inner one a slur indicating the bowing. >> >> That would not m

Re: Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-22 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 21.11.2015 um 20:30 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Thanks, that makes things clearer. This is definitely what I suggested. The "outer" slur is not a tie but a phrasing slur and the inner one a slur indicating the bowing. That would not make much sense, really. Phrasing slurs

Re: Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-22 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Thanks, that makes things clearer. This is definitely what I > suggested. The "outer" slur is not a tie but a phrasing slur and the > inner one a slur indicating the bowing. That would not make much sense, really. Phrasing slurs in violin music are only necessary when you c

Re: Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-21 Thread Urs Liska
t;> } >>> \new Voice { >>> \voiceTwo >>> c''2 ( b'4 ) >>> } >>> >> >>> } >>> >>> >> +1! >> >> I've played songs on the piano that have this feel, but I agree th

Re: Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-21 Thread Steve Lacy
; >> } >> >> > +1! > > I've played songs on the piano that have this feel, but I agree that > something like this should most likely done with multiple voices (and > LilyPond handles it much better anyway). > > If this *is* necessary, do you really have *that many*

Re: Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-21 Thread tisimst
e played songs on the piano that have this feel, but I agree that something like this should most likely done with multiple voices (and LilyPond handles it much better anyway). If this *is* necessary, do you really have *that many* instances where a manual direction tweak is prohibitive, like the follo

Re: Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-21 Thread Urs Liska
} >> } HTH Urs > > Inline image 1 > http://lilybin.com/5sfp1b/1 > > \score{ > { > \set tieWaitForNote = ##t > > c''2 \( ~ b'4 \) c''4 > c''2 ~ b'4 \( c''4 \) > } > > \layout{} &g

Clashing ties & slurs with tieWaitForNote

2015-11-21 Thread Steve Lacy
Any thoughts on avoiding these clashes without having to manually tweak all the slurs? [image: Inline image 1] http://lilybin.com/5sfp1b/1 \score{ { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t c''2 \( ~ b'4 \) c''4 c''2 ~

Re: crossStaff with tieWaitForNote

2013-06-15 Thread David Kastrup
nother approach (actually, pretty much the same but with a different naming scheme) would be \version "2.17" \language "english" \layout { \context { \PianoStaff \consists #Span_stem_engraver tieWaitForNote = ##t } \context { \Voice \name "SubVoice"

Re: crossStaff with tieWaitForNote

2013-06-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > How about this one? Amazing! Thanks. > It's sort of fishy What specifically is 'fishy' about it? > but seemingly does the trick in this simple case. Definitely. I don't think any of the other cases in this score will be any different — if I run into any thing that your fishing d

Re: crossStaff with tieWaitForNote

2013-06-14 Thread David Kastrup
t_ Voices. >> >> I've no idea how to solve that quandary. > > Thanks for trying… =( How about this one? It's sort of fishy but seemingly does the trick in this simple case. \version "2.17" \language "english" \layout { \context { \PianoS

Re: crossStaff with tieWaitForNote

2013-06-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Voice = "xy" { \upper_notes } \new Staff = "piano_lower" \lower_notes >> \layout { \context { \PianoStaff \consists #Span_stem_engraver tieWaitForNote = ##t } } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: crossStaff with tieWaitForNote

2013-06-13 Thread Thomas Morley
; > \language "english" > > \layout { > \context { > \PianoStaff > \consists #Span_stem_engraver > tieWaitForNote = ##t > } > } > > upper_notes = \relative d'' { > << > { \voiceOne r8 8[-. a'-. e']-. a2-. }

crossStaff with tieWaitForNote

2013-06-13 Thread Kieren MacMillan
\consists #Span_stem_engraver tieWaitForNote = ##t } } upper_notes = \relative d'' { << { \voiceOne r8 8[-. a'-. e']-. a2-. } \new Voice { \voiceTwo s8 \crossStaff { 2.. } } >> } lower_notes = \relative d, { \clef bass \tuplet 7/4 { \stemUp d32[ ~

Re: tieWaitForNote across staves

2009-09-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Robin Bannister wrote: > From: Robin Bannister > Subject: Re: tieWaitForNote across staves > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" , "lilypond-user" > > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 1:02 AM > Jonathan Wilkes > wrote:    > > I see a

Re: tieWaitForNote across staves

2009-09-06 Thread Robin Bannister
Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I see a "cross-staff" property for grobs But this doesn't mean that every sort of grob has it, or uses it. The file define-grob-properties.scm lists about a dozen grobs which do: Beam, Stem, Slur, TupletBracket, among others, but not TieColumn. So your TieColumn

Re: tieWaitForNote across staves

2009-09-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
ss is what you normally want to avoid staff collisions). I see a "cross-staff" property for grobs, but it's internal. Any advice? -Jonathan \version "2.12.2" \score { << \new Staff = "RH" { \relative c' { s4 %

Re: tieWaitForNote across staves

2009-09-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 9/6/09, Robin Bannister wrote: > From: Robin Bannister > Subject: Re: tieWaitForNote across staves > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" , "lilypond-user" > > Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 6:28 PM > Jonathan Wilkes wrote:  > > I tried fooling

Re: tieWaitForNote across staves

2009-09-06 Thread Robin Bannister
Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I tried fooling around with tieWaitForNote You didn't show your code, so it's not easy to guess what you tried. I have no cross-staff experience, but it looks to me like the cross-staff run is a lot better supported than the cross-staff chord (where y

tieWaitForNote across staves

2009-09-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hello, Is there a way to get the attached notation in Lilypond? I tried fooling around with tieWaitForNote but it seems the ties set in the rh keeping on waiting, and waiting, and waiting... Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Jonathan

Re: help with tieWaitForNote

2008-10-28 Thread Robin Bannister
Richard Wattenbarger wrote: the d-flat tie doesn't render in the upper voice When you ask for tieWaitForNote like this, it gets turned on for the voice and doesn't affect any other voices, e.g. a voice for the right hand. The << {} // {} >> construct needs two voic

help with tieWaitForNote

2008-10-27 Thread Richard Wattenbarger
time 4/4 \clef bass \key aes \major \relative c, { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t \slurUp %this works fine r16 es~ (bes'~ g'~)

\tieWaitForNote in \grace music

2006-06-07 Thread Vivian Barty-Taylor
I need to either use a \new Voice or put some of the notes in another line (which also doesn't work.)Any suggestions? Thanks,Vivian.%% This doesn't work.\grace{\set tieWaitForNote = ##t\stemDown \tieUp f'''16~[ \tieDown e~ b~ \change Staff = "lh" \stemUp \tieUp bes,

2.8.1 bug in tieWaitForNote

2006-04-02 Thread Steve D
tieWaitForNote bug LilyPond 2.8.1 installed with GUB on Debian Linux Using \set tieWaitForNote, which allows for ties between arpeggios and a following chord, some ties are not attached to or do not extend to the correct note. --- begin LilyPond code --- version "2.8.1" \layout { ra

Tie anomaly in \set tieWaitForNote

2006-03-26 Thread Steve D
Tie Anomaly LilyPond 2.8.0 on Debian Linux, installed using the GUB There seems to be an anomaly with ties when using the \set tieWaitForNote feature, in version 2.8.0. I noticed this anomaly when I was trying to manually format a tie column between a grace-note arpeggio and the following chord

Re: tieWaitForNote

2005-09-13 Thread Martin Bergande
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lilypond-user@gnu.org > Betreff: Re: tieWaitForNote > Datum: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:05:29 +0200 > > According to the ChangeLog, this feature was introduced > in version 2.4.5 so it isn't available in 2.4.4. > > /Mats > > Martin Bergande wrot

Re: tieWaitForNote

2005-09-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson
s, Martin --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: "Martin Bergande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kopie: lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: tieWaitForNote Datum: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:56:59 -0700 On 12-Sep-05, at 9:42 PM, Martin Bergande wrote: using

Re: tieWaitForNote

2005-09-13 Thread Martin Bergande
ROTECTED]> > Kopie: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Betreff: Re: tieWaitForNote > Datum: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:56:59 -0700 > > > On 12-Sep-05, at 9:42 PM, Martin Bergande wrote: > > > using LilyPond 2.4.4 I tried to "\set tieWaitForNote = ##t" but the > > program &g

Re: tieWaitForNote

2005-09-12 Thread Graham Percival
On 12-Sep-05, at 9:42 PM, Martin Bergande wrote: using LilyPond 2.4.4 I tried to "\set tieWaitForNote = ##t" but the program seems not know this command and supposes typing errors. Can anybody give me a hint how to solve this problem? Are you sure that tieWaitForNote exists in 2

tieWaitForNote

2005-09-12 Thread Martin Bergande
Dear all, using LilyPond 2.4.4 I tried to "\set tieWaitForNote = ##t" but the program seems not know this command and supposes typing errors. Can anybody give me a hint how to solve this problem? Thanks for answering in advance, Martin -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen P

Re: set tieWaitForNote

2005-06-16 Thread Sacha Standen
I'm using windows ME, and have still made no headway with \set tieWaitForNote. Sacha - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sacha Standen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:11 AM Subject: Re: set

Re: set tieWaitForNote

2005-06-14 Thread Graham Percival
What OS and package type are you using? I just tried it on 2.5.30 compiled on OSX, and I get all the ties. Cheers, - Graham On 14-Jun-05, at 9:52 AM, Sacha Standen wrote:     I'm having problems on version 2.4.3 and on version 2.5.29 with the command: \set tieWaitForNote. I've tri

set tieWaitForNote

2005-06-14 Thread Sacha Standen
    I'm having problems on version 2.4.3 and on version 2.5.29 with the command: \set tieWaitForNote. I've tried various syntax and have tried entering the example given in the manual (5.1.12), but the final note of the arpeggio is always the only one to be tied. This is the te