FYI for the background, this is from the Violin part of a Sibelius piece
that I'm re-engraving a section for a friend.  Here's what I'm trying to
replicate:

[image: Inline image 1]

http://javanese.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/2/21/IMSLP48762-PMLP06043-Sibelius-Finlandia.Violin1.pdf

Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll just drop the tie and use slurs +
phrasing slurs.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:58 AM, tisimst <tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve,
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] <[hidden email]
> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=183908&i=0>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am 21.11.2015 um 18:18 schrieb Steve Lacy:
>>
>> Any thoughts on avoiding these clashes without having to manually tweak
>> all the slurs?
>>
>>
>> Yes, writing semantically correct notes, like this:
>>
>> c''2 \( ( b'4 )  c''4 \)
>>
>> I can't think of an instrument or musical style where your input makes
>> sense.
>>
>> If that note should really be tied (i.e. a held note) then you'd need two
>> separate voices, like
>>
>> {
>>   \new Staff  <<
>>     {
>>       \voiceOne
>>       c''2. ~ c''4
>>     }
>>     \new Voice {
>>       \voiceTwo
>>       c''2 ( b'4 )
>>     }
>>   >>
>> }
>>
>>
> +1!
>
> I've played songs on the piano that have this feel, but I agree that
> something like this should most likely done with multiple voices (and
> LilyPond handles it much better anyway).
>
> If this *is* necessary, do you really have *that many* instances where a
> manual direction tweak is prohibitive, like the following:
>
> \score{
>   {
>     \set tieWaitForNote = ##t
>   c''2 _( ~ b'4 )  c''4
>     c''2  ~ b'4 _(  c''4 )
>   }
>   \layout{}
> }
>
> If so, I'd definitely go with separate voices.
>
> Best,
> Abraham
>
>
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