There are two ways to write a tremolo on a single note. You can use the
"\repeat tremolo" form or add a colon with the tremolo duration after a
note. While these are engraved identically, they are not represented
the same way internally. The \unfoldRepeats command is able to unfold
the "\repeat tre
Le 01/11/2022 à 00:22, Craig Bakalian a écrit :
Wait, Wait,
I just gotta say, why does the tremolo interface breakdown on beam
direction in big or macro durations like whole notes? Why can't the
tremolo interface adjust to the distance of the note heads on the
staff to create an angle?
I w
Wait, Wait,
I just gotta say, why does the tremolo interface breakdown on beam
direction in big or macro durations like whole notes? Why can't the
tremolo interface adjust to the distance of the note heads on the staff
to create an angle?
I will shut up now.
Craig
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 11:05, Molly Preston
wrote:
> Is there any way of changing the angle of tremolo markings?
>
> \version "2.22.1"
>
> \repeat tremolo 16 { 32 e'' 32 }
>
> I am wondering if there is a way to get the tremolo marking to be angled
> instead of straight?
>
> -Molly
>
It looks
Is there any way of changing the angle of tremolo markings?
\version "2.22.1"
\repeat tremolo 16 { 32 e'' 32 }
I am wondering if there is a way to get the tremolo marking to be angled
instead of straight?
-Molly
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 11:03 AM Paolo Prete wrote:
>
> Instead of suppressing the warning, given that LilyPond adds an invisible
> "auxiliary" stem to the whole notes, for creating the tremolo beam,
> I think it should be better to explicitly set the stems on both notes,
> according to the beam'
"lower" \lower
>>
}
%%%
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 3:48 PM Knute Snortum wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 5:44 AM Paolo Prete wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm experiencing strange beams on cross-staff tremolos on whole notes.
> > The beam in t
Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately the value of Beam.gap depends on
how long is the measure, then it requires to be set only after a definitive
score and with a trial and error procedure...
BTW, I wonder if these issues are reported as known bugs in the ML
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 4:17 PM Masa
sitions is
needed.
Akikazu
On 2021/11/03 23:48, Knute Snortum wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 5:44 AM Paolo Prete wrote:
Hello,
I'm experiencing strange beams on cross-staff tremolos on whole notes.
The beam in the below snippet: 1) is not placed at the middle of the two notes
and 2
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 5:44 AM Paolo Prete wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm experiencing strange beams on cross-staff tremolos on whole notes.
> The beam in the below snippet: 1) is not placed at the middle of the two
> notes and 2) it is too close to the ledger lines.
>
>
Hello,
I'm experiencing strange beams on cross-staff tremolos on whole notes.
The beam in the below snippet: 1) is not placed at the middle of the two
notes and 2) it is too close to the ledger lines.
Is this expected?
Is there a way to fix 1) + 2) without \tweak(ing)?
than
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 10:19 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>
>
>
> Le 08/08/2021 à 02:25, Knute Snortum a écrit :
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > I've run into a problem that seems to be an old issue: the angle of
> > the beams between a whole-note tremolo is horizontal, but should be
> > tilted slightly.
>
Le 08/08/2021 à 02:25, Knute Snortum a écrit :
Hi everyone.
I've run into a problem that seems to be an old issue: the angle of
the beams between a whole-note tremolo is horizontal, but should be
tilted slightly.
https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/318
My question is how to fix th
Hi everyone.
I've run into a problem that seems to be an old issue: the angle of
the beams between a whole-note tremolo is horizontal, but should be
tilted slightly.
https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/318
My question is how to fix this in the source file. Is there a way to
manually a
On 2020-11-08 1:52 am, Kuredant Kuredant wrote:
Hello,
I've been using the solution mentioned in
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-02/msg00253.html
to
adjust the orientation of the tremolo beams between two whole notes,
like
in this example: http://lilybin.com/vzv8uv/1
Th
Hello,
I've been using the solution mentioned in
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-02/msg00253.html to
adjust the orientation of the tremolo beams between two whole notes, like
in this example: http://lilybin.com/vzv8uv/1
This works very well with LilyPond 2.18.2 and 2.19.48,
Late to the party, but you asked:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:47 PM, Thomas Morley
wrote:
>
> https://forums.makemusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2065&sid=
> 70206c7b17c9cd8107c4ad1250073f0c
> But not discussing how it _should_ be done.
> I don't have Gould at hand, does she says anything about it?
Harm, that's great. How about adding it to the snippets repository?
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On 2/20/2018 7:24 AM, Noeck wrote:
Hi Ben,
If you want to change the beam gap, here are the overrides:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-engraving-tremolos-with-floating-beams
Best,
Joram
Ah, yes. Sorry I wasn't as clear as I meant to be - the bea
Hi Ben,
> What's the easiest way in LilyPond to create those beamed tremolos?
Just read the mail with code before in this thread. You can create them
via the \repeat tremolo command:
{
\repeat tremolo 8 { c'32 e' }
\repeat tremolo 4 { c'32 e' }
}
If you want
/tremolo_fermata_old.gif
http://notovodstvo.ru/forum/fermata/tremolo_fermata_new.gif
Not really a fermata question, but just curious...
What's the easiest way in LilyPond to create those beamed tremolos?
In the 'old.gif' you can see the beams connected for those first few
measures, but in the '
Simon,
I am less worried than yourselves about the "coldness" of the new engraving. As
a performer, what I want is clarity and the new version wins hands down.
However, I hate the fermata tremolo which seems to me to combine the worst
features of all possible solutions. Presumably whatever soft
Simon,
> As so often, I find this comparison almost heart-rending.
+ 1,000,000
Kieren.
Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
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Hi Harm,
> On Feb 19, 2018, at 5:47 PM, Thomas Morley wrote:
> you need to go for the grob's left/right-bounds in order to get their
> coordinates and move the fermata accordingly.
> Leads to:
Nice!
> Or use the method with tuplets, at least less invasive.
Yes… but if they were both syntactic
Hi Harm,
thanks for the help.
On 19.02.2018 23:47, Thomas Morley wrote:
Also, following links may be of interest. They provide excerpts of an
old and new edition of Janacek, Glagolitic Mass.
http://notovodstvo.ru/forum/fermata/tremolo_fermata_old.gif
http://notovodstvo.ru/forum/fermata/tremolo
2018-02-19 21:08 GMT+01:00 Simon Albrecht :
> I think the best way to do it would be essentially an override to the beam,
> adding the fermata to its stencils. However I have to call on the expect
> Schemers around here (Harm, David N.?) for finishing it, since I haven’t
> been able to align the fe
Hi Simon,
> I think the best way to do it would be essentially an override to the beam,
> adding the fermata to its stencils. However I have to call on the expect
> Schemers around here (Harm, David N.?) for finishing it, since I haven’t been
> able to align the fermata to the horizontal center
Dear Peter,
how about this:
{
\once\override TupletNumber.text = \markup \fermata
\tuplet 1/1 \repeat tremolo 16 { c'32 c''}
}
It is misusing a tuplet for the fermata and just overrides the text
(which would print "1" otherwise). If one does not like the idea of such
a fake tuplet in this c
rmata
\repeat tremolo 16 { c'32 c''}
}
Best, Simon
On 19.02.2018 12:25, Peter Toye wrote:
Fermatas with tremolos I want to engrave a fermata over a tremolo.
What's the correct way of displaying this? I've looked on various fora
and the consensus seems to be that the ferma
Andrew,
Thanks - that works ( on the 4th version). But it's a bit of a kludge.
I'm surprised that LP doesn't do it automatically, which would be a far better
idea as it seems to be the standard. No idea what other engraving programs do.
Best regards,
Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.c
Hi Peter,
Can't you just use this to move it?
\once \override TextScript.X-offset = #0.8 % for example
Or is it that what you are asking is to have the tremolo sign and the
fermata automatically aligned? Not clear to me.
Andrew
On 19 February 2018 at 22:25, Peter Toye wrote:
> I
I want to engrave a fermata over a tremolo. What's the correct way of
displaying this? I've looked on various fora and the consensus seems to be that
the fermata sign should be midway between the notes.
The first two parts of the snippet below put it at the beginning or the end.
The third one
I want to engrave a fermata over a tremolo. What's the correct way of
displaying this? I've looked on various fora and the consensus seems to be that
the fermata sign should be midway between the notes.
The first two parts of the snippet below put it at the beginning or the end.
The third one
es and Warnings
> section be added to :
>
> 1.4.2. Short repeats
> Tremolos
>
> addressing the issue.
>
> Ralph
>
Issue 318 is marked as a defect (i.e. bug) we don't normally document
bugs as 'known issues' in the Notation Reference.
James
Greetings -
Darek Cidlinský has noticed the issue with whole note (two note)
tremolo slashes not angling between the two whole notes. This has been
accepted as issue #318. I suggest that a Known Issues and Warnings
section be added to :
1.4.2. Short repeats
Tremolos
addressing the issue
Hi Carl,
Thank you for doing this.
I believe all of these adjustments are improvements already.
If you have [as you’ve suggested you will have] parameters for most of the
settings, with reasonable defaults pre-set, this will be a nice step forward.
Best,
Kieren.
only as wide as a
>>crotchet note head).
>
>This is a matter of taste, it seems. I have seen scores where the
>width of tremolos is wider, especially at small sizes.
OK. That is a parameter that the user can easily change (we should make
sure to add an example to the docs. I&#x
2016-05-16 22:52 GMT+02:00 Carl Sorensen :
>
>
> On 5/16/16 1:20 PM, "Malte Meyn" wrote:
>
>>
>>Am 16.05.2016 um 01:23 schrieb Carl Sorensen:
>>> 2) The tremolo lines are too thick (they should be thinner than beams,
>>>but
>>> in LilyPond they are the same thickness).
>>
>>IMO your variant isn¹t
Hi Carl,
bringing this up and already offering a solution is really nice. Thank
you for your work!
I can only tell what my gut feeling is:
1) I like the wider tremolos more for whole notes
2) Again, I like the thick lines more
3) The tremolos inside the staff look much cleaner/better.
4) Can
Am 12.05.2016 um 22:45 schrieb Dave Higgins:
> That doesn't appear to move the tremolo in any direction. Tried (5 . 5).
My previous mail did not come through (yet?), so I try once again:
Only if you are talking about \repeat tremolos with two notes this
works. For the example above (
).
I have not yet worked on the code to change the slash placement on stemmed
notes. The problems with the stemmed note slashes are more severe than on
the whole note slashes. But the code for the whole notes was easier to
work on for an initial patch. My plan was to handle the whole-note
tremolos f
> In reviewing Gould (p. 222), I found several defaults in LilyPond
> that go against Gould's recommendations.
>
> 1) The tremolo lines are too wide (they should be only as wide as a
>crotchet note head).
This is a matter of taste, it seems. I have seen scores where t
Am 16.05.2016 um 21:20 schrieb Malte Meyn:
IMO your variant isn’t much better:
I should have first thanked you to work on this topic at all (and your
changes 1 and 3 are indeed worth to be included into LilyPond; 2 with
some further changes, I have no opinion on 4 but these thoughts let me
Am 16.05.2016 um 01:23 schrieb Carl Sorensen:
2) The tremolo lines are too thick (they should be thinner than beams, but
in LilyPond they are the same thickness).
IMO your variant isn’t much better: The tremolo beams look *very* slim
now. Two ideas:
1. Does Gould say something about *how muc
Dave Higgins noted that for notes outside of the staff, tremolo
indications collided with ledger lines.
In reviewing Gould (p. 222), I found several defaults in LilyPond that go
against Gould's recommendations.
1) The tremolo lines are too wide (they should be only as wide as a
crotchet note head
;
> Change the 0 and 1 to suit
>
> Trevor
Only if you are talking about \repeat tremolos with two notes. For the
example above (one note, stem tremolo), StemTremolo is the right object.
Cheers,
Joram
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Dave Higgins noted that for notes outside of the staff, tremolo
indications collided with ledger lines.
In reviewing Gould (p. 222), I found several defaults in LilyPond that go
against Gould's recommendations.
1) The tremolo lines are too wide (they should be only as wide as a
crotchet note head
Hi Dave,
>> For example: a1:32 would give 4 ledger lines but it's hard to tell
>> that there are 4 ledger lines because the tremolo covers it.
> And make them lighter.
The a has one octave more ledger lines. You can try this and adjust
the values:
{
\override StemTremolo.Y-offset = 3
2016-05-12 22:45 GMT+02:00 Dave Higgins :
> That doesn't appear to move the tremolo in any direction. Tried (5 . 5).
>
> On 05/12/2016 11:30 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote:
>>
>> Dave Higgins wrote Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:53 PM
>>
>>
>>> I've noticed that with high notes that are tremolo'd (or short re
That doesn't appear to move the tremolo in any direction. Tried (5 . 5).
On 05/12/2016 11:30 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote:
>
> Dave Higgins wrote Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:53 PM
>
>
>> I've noticed that with high notes that are tremolo'd (or short repeat),
>> the tremolo covers the ledger lines.
>>
Dave Higgins wrote Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:53 PM
> I've noticed that with high notes that are tremolo'd (or short repeat),
> the tremolo covers the ledger lines.
>
> For example: a1:32 would give 4 ledger lines but it's hard to tell
> that there are 4 ledger lines because the tremolo cover
Dave Higgins wrote Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:05 PM
> And make them lighter.
Maybe
\override Beam.beam-thickness = 0.4
(default is 0.48)
Trevor
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And make them lighter.
On 05/12/2016 10:53 AM, Dave Higgins wrote:
> I've noticed that with high notes that are tremolo'd (or short repeat),
> the tremolo covers the ledger lines.
>
> For example: a1:32 would give 4 ledger lines but it's hard to tell
> that there are 4 ledger lines because th
I've noticed that with high notes that are tremolo'd (or short repeat),
the tremolo covers the ledger lines.
For example: a1:32 would give 4 ledger lines but it's hard to tell
that there are 4 ledger lines because the tremolo covers it.
What's the syntax to lower the tremolo?
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Thanks for the tip, but I still can't get it to work. Here below is my
new small example (the published png looks the same as before).
I also tried adding tremolo-span-event but that caused: warning:
unterminated chord tremolo
Did I use the quotedCueEventTypes correctly?
Gez
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I thought I should post the output to make it clearer what the problem is...
Gez
On 12/05/2014 15:11, Gez wrote:
When inserting a cue which contains a tremolo, the note heads and
stems are showing up but not the beams. Is it something I've done or
missed out? I've made a (reasonably) tiny ex
When inserting a cue which contains a tremolo, the note heads and stems
are showing up but not the beams. Is it something I've done or missed
out? I've made a (reasonably) tiny example:
\version "2.16.2"
cueVoice =
\relative c'' {
R2.
\repeat tremolo 3 { b8 e }
}
mainVoi
Thanks guys for this! I'm ultra-busy right now so don't have time to play
around with it just yet, but I'm very grateful.
Brent.
On 8 February 2012 01:03, Thomas Morley wrote:
> I should have written:
> based on Neil's suggestion I worked out the function _below_ (not above).
> :)
>
I should have written:
based on Neil's suggestion I worked out the function _below_ (not above). :)
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Hi Brent,
> On 4 February 2012 16:42, Neil Thornock wrote:
>>
>> As far as getting the look you want, you need to use a combination of
>> Beam #'gap, Beam #'positions, Beam #'extra-offset, and NoteHead
>> #'stem-attachment. I've gotten very nice results with those
>> overrides. It's a pain, but
Neil,
Thanks for your answer. I knew there would be a way of doing it with
centering beams and so forth; trouble is I'm soo NOT a programmer and even
the simplest override often takes me a while to work out. If you have any
concrete examples of using these overrides for me, perhaps I could just
pl
As far as getting the look you want, you need to use a combination of
Beam #'gap, Beam #'positions, Beam #'extra-offset, and NoteHead
#'stem-attachment. I've gotten very nice results with those
overrides. It's a pain, but it's worth avoiding the horrible default.
Hope that helps,
Neil
On Fri, F
ord "tremolo"!).
Basically Werner, Reinhold and Han-Wen agreed that slanted "beam"
tremolo should be the default behaviour for whole notes. And Reinhold
said that
"According to Gardner Read (p. 236-237) and Kurt Stone (p. 150-151),
the beams of whole-note tremolos are slan
Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2012/2/4 Xavier Scheuer :
>> Maybe the last time this was discussed
>> was in a thread with Janek and his new tremolo styles?
>
> I don't recall discussions about whole note tremolo related to the
> tremolo style i was working on.
> As for the said tremolo style, i'd like
2012/2/4 Xavier Scheuer :
> Maybe the last time this was discussed
> was in a thread with Janek and his new tremolo styles?
I don't recall discussions about whole note tremolo related to the
tremolo style i was working on.
As for the said tremolo style, i'd like to finish that indeed, but i
have l
Xavier,
Ok thanks for the reply. Sorry if I'm talking about things already under
discussion; I do my best, but still find it very difficult to sift through
all the old stuff online to see if these issues are known or not. I've put
the issues link in my bookmarks and I'll look there first from now
On 3 February 2012 17:00, Brent Annable wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have a question, and perhaps a suggestion. I just typeset the following
> tremolo between two whole notes:
>
> \score {
> \relative c'' {
>
> \repeat tremolo 16 { gis32 b }
>
> }
> }
>
> and was quite disappointed by the fact
Hello everyone,
I have a question, and perhaps a suggestion. I just typeset the following
tremolo between two whole notes:
\score {
\relative c'' {
\repeat tremolo 16 { gis32 b }
}
}
and was quite disappointed by the fact that Lilypond places the tremolo
beams horizontally and above the notes
On 27/09/05, Peter Mogensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Hi,Are there any way to get the tremolo strokes on a beamed note to NOTalign with the beam?There
will be in the next build. I just payed Han-wen to add that feature.
You will be able to specify the desired slant through a property.-- Sven Axel
Hi,
Are there any way to get the tremolo strokes on a beamed note to NOT
align with the beam?
Peter
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last entry on the tremolo
repeats page should be removed.
I personsally find the page titles confusing.
How about tremolos the repeats is only a name because lilypond uses
\repeat but for someone looking it up it is a tremolo.
Or if you like note tremolos and stem tremolos.
I often find in the
Aaron wrote:
which version of the manual?
Thanks
Aaron
2.1.0
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Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I posed a retorical question, where is the tremelo documentation,
> because this is what I found in the docs:
>
> \score {
>\context Voice \notes\relative c' {
> \repeat "tremolo" 8 { c16 d16 }
> \repe
Hi all,
I posed a retorical question, where is the tremelo documentation,
because this is what I found in the docs:
\score {
\context Voice \notes\relative c' {
\repeat "tremolo" 8 { c16 d16 }
\repeat "tremolo" 4 { c16 d16 }
\repeat "tremolo" 2 { c16 d16 }
\
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 19:39:39 +0200
Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> > Just say
> > c4:16
> >
> Hi,
> could you point to where it says that in the docs??
User Manual -> "tremolo repeats" or "tremolo subdivisions"
Cheers,
- Graham
which version of the manual?
Thanks
Aaron
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Aaron wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Just say
c4:16
Hi,
could you point to where it says that in the docs??
Notation Manual/Repeats/Tremolo subdivisions
Paul Scott
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Just say
c4:16
Hi,
could you point to where it says that in the docs??
Thanks
Aaron
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c4:16
/Mats
Aaron wrote:
HI all,
I am try to enter a measure with tremolo beams but I can't figure out
how, as follows
a quarter note with a 16th tremelo on the beam:
\repeat "tremolo" 4 c16 (from the documents)
gives me this:
--snip--
/home/aamehl/Documents/viola.ly:
HI all,
I am try to enter a measure with tremolo beams but I can't figure out
how, as follows
a quarter note with a 16th tremelo on the beam:
\repeat "tremolo" 4 c16 (from the documents)
gives me this:
--snip--
/home/aamehl/Documents/viola.ly:23:21: warning: Chord tremolo with 1 e
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> great, but i hope there won't be the same degree of syntax updating
> going to the next version as there was from 1.8.0 to 1.9.8! i don't
I hope there would, since we only make changes if it improves anything
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Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
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is there any plan to support tremolos shorter than a quarter?
i.e. \repeat "tremolo" 2 { c32 e32 }
i've had occasion to need them, but they generate a warning and end up
looking like squished-together quarter tremolos with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> is there any plan to support tremolos shorter than a quarter?
>
> i.e. \repeat "tremolo" 2 { c32 e32 }
>
> i've had occasion to need them, but they generate a warning and end up
> looking like squished-together quarter tremolos
is there any plan to support tremolos shorter than a quarter?
i.e. \repeat "tremolo" 2 { c32 e32 }
i've had occasion to need them, but they generate a warning and end up
looking like squished-together quarter tremolos with no beam between the
stems. i'll have to hack a
In the following example, why do the unfolded repeats fit into the first two
bars, but I get "barcheck failed" errors for the third and fourth bars with
tremolo repeats? (18+6)*2 / 32 = 12/8 ?
\version "1.7.30"
\score
{
\context Voice \notes \relative c {
\time 12/8
\repeat "unfold" 1
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 21:59:19 +0100
Chris Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the following example, why do the unfolded repeats fit into the first two
> bars, but I get "barcheck failed" errors for the third and fourth bars with
> tremolo repeats? (18+6)*2 / 32 = 12/8 ?
Lilypond is treating t
that I can do to avoid that?
Yes, you can kludge a fix by increasing the stem length, temporarily,
see below.
> My setup: lily: 1.5.52 on MacOS X (10.1.4).
\score{
\notes{
% longer stems, to make place for tremolos
\property Voice.Stem \override #'length = #9
Hi,
Today I noticed that the tremolo bars of a note collide with the note
head when using the \stemUp switch. (See the attached testfile). Is
there somthing that I can do to avoid that?
My setup: lily: 1.5.52 on MacOS X (10.1.4).
Christian
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