Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-15 Thread Paul Morris
than "music-concert-pitch" to me. Although I see in the readme file that you are rethinking things, so maybe this is a moot point. Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Transposing-instruments-in-orchestra-score-tp162176

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-12 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello, I added a snippet to open-lily-lib: https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/editorial-tools/auto-transpose README follows. Best, Jan-Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/l

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-12 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi again, I didn't actually tell what the engraver is actually for: The "autoTranspose"-engraver transposes music automatically, if there are three context-properties set: * instrumentTransposition is the pitch, which is set by \transposition * music-concert-pitch tells whether the music in this c

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-12 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi there, ... now, who's late ;) I read a few of the messages regarding the given subject. I don't have a once-and-for-all-solution, but I want bring in another scheme-engraver: It uses context-properties 'instrumentTransposition, (newly defined) 'music-concert-pitch' and 'print-concert-pitch'.

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-11 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi David, sounds like a deal. Let me know when you're able to work on it and maybe also the amount of sponsoring you'll need... Yours, Orm Am Samstag, den 10. Mai 2014 um 15:21:40 Uhr (+0200) schrieb David Kastrup: > > I'm thinking about it, but no timeline. > > Basically, it requires reworki

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > You have to put the key information redundantly in each instrumentalist’s > music. > > A better [i.e, more maintainable and “object-oriented”] approach is this: > > global = { > \key a \minor s1*8 > \key e \minor s1*4 > \key c \major s1*10 > } > > and then in bot

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > >> I'd be very willing to sponsor this, if there is a feasible solution >> within a reasonable amount of time. > > I paid Han-Wen to upgrade switchInstrument four or five years ago — > I’m happy to sponsor more improvements! I'm thinking about it, but no time

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > I'd be very willing to sponsor this, if there is a feasible solution > within a reasonable amount of time. I paid Han-Wen to upgrade switchInstrument four or five years ago — I’m happy to sponsor more improvements! Best, Kieren. — Kieren MacMillan, composer www:

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-10 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi List, glad I'm not the only one with this use case! As I understand the situation it is a non-trivial matter to get properly implemented. My offer to sponsor this still holds (especially if it gets done in the next two months) but it seems no one with the necessary skills will implement it, s

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-09 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > I am curious as to what are the "killer" use cases? I compose and arrange music theatre works (amongst other things). In the pit, we almost always have a multi-wind player. A very normal part would see that one person playing: mm 1-10 on Bb clarinet mm. 20-42 on [C+8] piccol

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-09 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
in orchestra score (Orm Finnendahl) >6. Re:Transposing instruments in orchestra score (David Kastrup) >7. Re:Trill span problem (Simon Albrecht) > > > ---------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 19:18:23 -0400 > From: Kieren MacMillan > To: David Kastrup >

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-09 Thread David Kastrup
Orm Finnendahl writes: > Hi all, > > as I understand the situation, the most convenient situation for all > would be the possibility of a context switch in mid-score affecting > the way lilypond is interpreting (seeing) the pitches, which could get > changed globally by including different files

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-09 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi all, as I understand the situation, the most convenient situation for all would be the possibility of a context switch in mid-score affecting the way lilypond is interpreting (seeing) the pitches, which could get changed globally by including different files with redefinitions of the context-s

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-09 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hello all, > > Sorry I’m late to the party… > > A critical feature of a proper and useable multi-instrumentalist > framework would be the ability to put in global variables which > include the key signature(s) for the work, and the part would present > the correct trans

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, Sorry I’m late to the party… A critical feature of a proper and useable multi-instrumentalist framework would be the ability to put in global variables which include the key signature(s) for the work, and the part would present the correct transposition of that key signature (as wel

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread David Kastrup
Orm Finnendahl writes: > Hi, > > sorry, I seem to have missed the replies to the thread and just reread > them in the list archive. > > David, could you provide me with a hint on how to get the suggested > masterToScore and masterToPart functions working? I guess this would > be the most suitabl

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi, sorry, I seem to have missed the replies to the thread and just reread them in the list archive. David, could you provide me with a hint on how to get the suggested masterToScore and masterToPart functions working? I guess this would be the most suitable method for my purpose as I'm generati

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi David, thanks, sorry for not noticing this in your previous mail... -- Orm Am Donnerstag, den 08. Mai 2014 um 17:50:15 Uhr (+0200) schrieb David Kastrup: > Orm Finnendahl writes: > > > Hi David, > > > > below is a minimal example. One of the disadvantages of this notation > > is obvious,

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread David Kastrup
Orm Finnendahl writes: > Hi David, > > below is a minimal example. One of the disadvantages of this notation > is obvious, if you render the file: Both parts are in the wrong > octave. The "\relative c'" has to get moved inside the brackets of the > \bclarinet and \eb-clarinet calls in order to

Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi David, below is a minimal example. One of the disadvantages of this notation is obvious, if you render the file: Both parts are in the wrong octave. The "\relative c'" has to get moved inside the brackets of the \bclarinet and \eb-clarinet calls in order to correct this. I'd much prefer not ha

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread David Kastrup
Saul Tobin writes: > Naturally, but a music function like that misses the point. The > current way isn't cumbersome because it's verbose, it's cumbersome > because it requires breaking music into separate blocks using > braces. What I'd like to be able to do is change the transposition > like a c

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread Saul Tobin
Naturally, but a music function like that misses the point. The current way isn't cumbersome because it's verbose, it's cumbersome because it requires breaking music into separate blocks using braces. What I'd like to be able to do is change the transposition like a context property, so that I

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread David Kastrup
Shevek writes: > If I understand correctly, what Orm wants is to be able to write something > like this: > > clarinet = \relative c' { > \transposing bf > c4 d e d | > \transposing a > c d e d > } > > And get the output to show d e fs e ef f g f (using English spelling). > Current

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-08 Thread Shevek
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Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-07 Thread David Kastrup
Orm Finnendahl writes: > Hi List, > > I'd like to write a part for a transposing instrument in sounding > pitch, having the score printout in C and the part printout > transposed. As far as I understand the docs, Which ones? And which version? > in this case I'd have to wrap the instrumental

Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-05 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi List, I'd like to write a part for a transposing instrument in sounding pitch, having the score printout in C and the part printout transposed. As far as I understand the docs, in this case I'd have to wrap the instrumental part's music into a "\transpose {}" statement and not using "\transpos