Re: bookparts

2021-03-05 Thread Knute Snortum
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:15 AM Lydia Westerberg wrote: > > > I want to include two scores on one page with the score continuing on to the > next page. > > This is what the piece should look like: > > Sample > https://www.oca.org/files/PDF/Music/Tone1/t1-lic-stichera-obikhod-yy.pdf > > > > The s

Re: bookparts

2021-03-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
The opus value is not used by bookTitleMarkup by default, it only appears in the scoreTitleMarkup (as one would expect different pieces is one book to have different opus numbers). And then you shouldn’t really use opus for that, as it is not actually what you want to convey. You have thus two

Re: bookparts

2021-03-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Lydia. To achieve what you want you should not use bookparts. Instead just simply use multiple \score blocks and you’ll get what you want. To get the titles working you need to understand the difference between the bookTitleMarkup (a markup printed at the begin of every bookpart) and the

Re: \bookparts and scaling (Karlin High)

2018-07-01 Thread David Kastrup
Torsten Hämmerle writes: > This being said, I agree with you that we need something that lets us > create differently-sized scores within a \bookpart that look as if > #(set-global-staffsize …) was used. Ideally, layout-set-staff-size > would be able to accomplish this, which isn't the case yet a

Re: \bookparts and scaling (Karlin High)

2018-07-01 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Karlin High wrote > The effect of that \staffSize function looks slightly different than > using layout-staff-size. But for me it still shows the same problem: it > makes things smaller, but doesn't change the layout like > set-global-staff-size does. Hi Karlin, The proposed function \staffSi

Re:\bookparts and scaling (Karlin High)

2018-06-30 Thread Cynthia Karl
> > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:18:18 -0500 > From: Karlin High > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, David Wright , > crimsonsunr...@protonmail.com > Cc: torsten.haemme...@web.de, David Kastrup > Subject: Re: \bookparts and scaling > Message-ID: > Con

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-29 Thread Karlin High
On 6/29/2018 10:46 AM, David Wright wrote: software is more like a work of art that has to be sculpted into perfection, which takes time, trouble and effort. Okay, moving in that direction. The documentation could be updated to better reflect the current state of these staff-size commands.

Re:\bookparts and scaling

2018-06-29 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: crimsonsunr...@protonmail.com > To: torsten.haemme...@web.de, "lilypond-user@gnu.org" < > lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 20:24:17 -0400 > Subject: Re: \bookparts

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-29 Thread David Wright
On Fri 29 Jun 2018 at 09:02:12 (-0400), crimsonsunr...@protonmail.com wrote: > Ativo 29 de jun de 2018 06:55, Torsten Hämmerle escreveu: > The documentation, unfortunately, has not been updated yet and still claims > that the distance between lines didn't change: > "*Known issues and warnings* > la

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-29 Thread crimsonsunrise
Mensagem Original Ativo 29 de jun de 2018 06:55, Torsten Hämmerle escreveu: crimsonsunrise wrote > If you combine both, say, you do global-set-staff-size, then try to change > the size using layout-staff-size in something like a different book part, > that will only enlarge the f

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-29 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
crimsonsunrise wrote > If you combine both, say, you do global-set-staff-size, then try to change > the size using layout-staff-size in something like a different book part, > that will only enlarge the fonts, notes, articulations and text. The staff > size will remain the same as what was set by g

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-28 Thread crimsonsunrise
Mensagem Original Ativo 28 de jun de 2018 19:15, Torsten Hämmerle escreveu: Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote > I was unfamiliar with the next one, which might do the trick: > > To set the staff size for a single score within a book, use > layout-set-staff-size inside that score’s \

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-28 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote > I was unfamiliar with the next one, which might do the trick: > > To set the staff size for a single score within a book, use > layout-set-staff-size inside that score’s \layout block: > > \score { > … > \layout { > #(layout-set-staff-size 14) > } > }

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-28 Thread crimsonsunrise
Ativo 28 de jun de 2018 16:15, Flaming Hakama by Elaine escreveu: On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:32 AM Karlin High wrote: On 6/27/2018 4:57 PM, crimsonsunr...@protonmail.com wrote: > It could help if we knew what #(set-global-staff-size) does exactly. > It's not in the manual or at least I couldn't

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-28 Thread Karlin High
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: > > I was unfamiliar with the next one, which might do the trick: > > To set the staff size for a single score within a book, use > layout-set-staff-size inside that score’s \layout block: > > \score { > … > \layout { > #(lay

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-28 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 1:22 PM Karlin High wrote: > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Flaming Hakama by Elaine > wrote: > > > > I was unfamiliar with the next one, which might do the trick: > > > > To set the staff size for a single score within a book, use > > layout-set-staff-size inside that

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-28 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:32 AM Karlin High wrote: > On 6/27/2018 4:57 PM, crimsonsunr...@protonmail.com wrote: > > It could help if we knew what #(set-global-staff-size) does exactly. > > It's not in the manual or at least I couldn't find it. > > I've watched people on the list refer to the sou

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-27 Thread crimsonsunrise
Mensagem Original Ativo 27 de jun de 2018 18:43, Flaming Hakama by Elaine escreveu: Subject: Re: \bookparts and scaling Hi, Torsten! On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 2:49 AM, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: Hi Ralph, I'm neither Crimson nor Sunrise, but I guess having both full scor

Re:\bookparts and scaling

2018-06-27 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> Subject: Re: \bookparts and scaling > Hi, Torsten! > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 2:49 AM, Torsten Hämmerle < > torsten.haemme...@web.de> wrote: > >> Hi Ralph, >> >> I'm neither Crimson nor Sunrise, but I guess having both full score and >> pa

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-27 Thread crimsonsunrise
Mensagem Original Ativo 27 de jun de 2018 05:49, Torsten Hämmerle escreveu: Hi Ralph, I'm neither Crimson nor Sunrise, but I guess having both full score and parts together in one PDF is quite a common requirement. Using smaller print for the full score but using larger print f

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-27 Thread Abraham Lee
Hi, Torsten! On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 2:49 AM, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > Hi Ralph, > > I'm neither Crimson nor Sunrise, but I guess having both full score and > parts together in one PDF is quite a common requirement. > > Using smaller print for the full score but using larger print for the parts

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-27 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi Ralph, I'm neither Crimson nor Sunrise, but I guess having both full score and parts together in one PDF is quite a common requirement. Using smaller print for the full score but using larger print for the parts while keeping up natural spacing is not easy to achieve in LilyPond, because set-g

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-26 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:13 PM wrote: > Ativo 26 de jun de 2018 01:25, < crimsonsunr...@protonmail.com> escreveu: > > After some searching and some dead ends (due to the fact that the standard > lilypond snippet site doesn't open in qutebrowser), I can't seem to find a > way of solving this one.

Re: \bookparts and scaling

2018-06-26 Thread crimsonsunrise
Ativo 26 de jun de 2018 01:25, escreveu: After some searching and some dead ends (due to the fact that the standard lilypond snippet site doesn't open in qutebrowser), I can't seem to find a way of solving this one. I'm trying to get a single pdf with all different parts of the main score and t

Re: bookparts (OT)

2018-03-13 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 12/03/18 21:47, Noeck wrote: > Hi all, > > thanks a lot to all how replied to my questions! > I got quite discouraged by the first reply but having my questions > (mostly) confirmed helps a lot. > > Summary of the main points: > > - \bookpart is something like a scope for \paper settings > -

Re: bookparts

2018-03-12 Thread Noeck
Hi all, thanks a lot to all how replied to my questions! I got quite discouraged by the first reply but having my questions (mostly) confirmed helps a lot. Summary of the main points: - \bookpart is something like a scope for \paper settings - I have to use unique variable naming - While include

Re: bookparts

2018-03-06 Thread David Kastrup
Jan-Peter Voigt writes: [...] >> Now books and bookparts actually have a \header with associated scopes. >> Anything wrong with doing assignments in there? > That might look like this? > -- > \version "2.19.80" > > headerVal = > #(define-scheme-function (name)(symbol?

Re: bookparts

2018-03-06 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 06.03.2018 um 13:12 schrieb David Kastrup: IISC a major change to the codebase would be needed to allow something like this: \bookpart { music = { c''4 } { \music } } but there are a lot users who would like to use it this way. I don't want to talk about scopes and coding style, but want to sh

Re: bookparts

2018-03-06 Thread David Kastrup
Jan-Peter Voigt writes: > Hi all, > > in this mail the thing with defining variables inside of curly > brackets popped up the first time in this thread - so I hook here. (If > it was mentioned in the former mails it doesn't matter ;-) ) > > IISC a major change to the codebase would be needed to a

Re: bookparts

2018-03-06 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi all, in this mail the thing with defining variables inside of curly brackets popped up the first time in this thread - so I hook here. (If it was mentioned in the former mails it doesn't matter ;-) ) IISC a major change to the codebase would be needed to allow something like this: \bookpa

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > This is a bit confusing since it seems that > you are saying 2 things: > > 1) If books have a scope of their own, [scopes of explicit books would > be] > separate from the scope in the implicit book. > > This makes sense, since we'd expect the scopes of

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> From: David Kastrup > To: Wols Lists > Subject: Re: bookparts > Wols Lists writes: > > > On 05/03/18 17:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > >> Hi Knut, > >> > >>> Because the definition of testing is invalid at that point of the main > >>&

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-03-05 22:19 GMT+01:00 Kieren MacMillan : > Hi Harm, > >> Nobody ever complained about not working: >> \score { >> mus = { R1 } >> \new Staff \mus >> } > > Actually, I've complained several times about not being able to create > variables "inline" — the most recent time being >

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2018-03-05 21:33 GMT+01:00 Wols Lists : >> On 05/03/18 17:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >>> Hi Knut, >>> Because the definition of testing is invalid at that point of the main source file. If tempTest.ly would contain e.g. a score or a \paper block no error wo

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > On 05/03/18 17:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> Hi Knut, >> >>> Because the definition of testing is invalid at that point of the main >>> source file. If tempTest.ly would contain e.g. a score or a \paper block >>> no error would occur. >> >> No, it still throws an error bec

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Harm, > Nobody ever complained about not working: > \score { > mus = { R1 } > \new Staff \mus > } Actually, I've complained several times about not being able to create variables "inline" — the most recent time being ,

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-03-05 21:33 GMT+01:00 Wols Lists : > On 05/03/18 17:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> Hi Knut, >> >>> Because the definition of testing is invalid at that point of the main >>> source file. If tempTest.ly would contain e.g. a score or a \paper block >>> no error would occur. >> >> No, it still th

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/03/18 17:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Knut, > >> Because the definition of testing is invalid at that point of the main >> source file. If tempTest.ly would contain e.g. a score or a \paper block >> no error would occur. > > No, it still throws an error because you can't define a variab

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
> You can put included files where you want and they behave just as if > inserted at that position. The content does not magically become more > or less valid. Excellent. We agree! =) Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> Sure. Included files behave just as if inserted at that position, and >> at that position no assignments are allowed. >> >> I don't get what is so hard to understand about that. > > Nothing. I was simply confused when you said you can include files — >

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Sure. Included files behave just as if inserted at that position, and > at that position no assignments are allowed. > > I don't get what is so hard to understand about that. Nothing. I was simply confused when you said you can include files — with no qualification about what the f

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Knut, > Because the definition of testing is invalid at that point of the main > source file. If tempTest.ly would contain e.g. a score or a \paper block > no error would occur. No, it still throws an error because you can't define a variable inside a \bookpart (which is what \include-ing it

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Variable definitions must be at top level. That was my point to Joram. Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user m

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Knut Petersen
Hi Joram et al! *What I want to achieve* is to have ~10 independent pieces and concatenate all of them into one book as well as printing everyone on its own. The separate pieces should have taglines etc. on the first/last page as usual. But the book should not repeat them for every piece. Each pi

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Arg. typo in the comment line… should be: > > %%% tempTest.ly > > \version "2.19" > testing = { c''4 4 4 4 } > > > %%% file2.ly > > \version "2.19" > \bookpart { > \include "tempTest.ly" > \score { \testing } > } > > throws several errors. Sure. Included files beh

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > Q: Included files just behave as if the content was inserted at the same position? Q: Includes must be at top level? >>> >>> Yes x 2. >> >> Second yes is wrong. > > Even if the included file has variable definitions? Variable definitions m

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Knut Petersen
Hi Kieren! %%% tempTest.ly \version "2.19" testing = { c''4 4 4 4 } %%% file2.ly \version "2.19" \bookpart { \include "tempTest.ly" \score { \testing } } throws several errors. Because the definition of testing is invalid at that point of the main source file. If tempTest.ly would co

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
e.g. %%% file1.ly \version "2.19.58" testing = { c''4 4 4 4 } %%% file2.ly \version "2.19" \bookpart { \include "tempTest.ly" \score { \testing } } throws several errors. Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Arg. typo in the comment line… should be: %%% tempTest.ly \version "2.19" testing = { c''4 4 4 4 } %%% file2.ly \version "2.19" \bookpart { \include "tempTest.ly" \score { \testing } } throws several errors. Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website:

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, >>> Q: Included files just behave as if the content was inserted at the same >>> position? >>> Q: Includes must be at top level? >> >> Yes x 2. > > Second yes is wrong. Even if the included file has variable definitions? Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMi

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: >> Q: Included files just behave as if the content was inserted at the same >> position? >> Q: Includes must be at top level? > > Yes x 2. Second yes is wrong. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Oof… > for example, the first three songs of the Piano/Conductor Score of a musical > might fit nicely on 8 pages, so I wrap the three \scores in a \bookpart with > a \paper { page-count = 3 } instruction. Obviously, that should be page-count = 8. Sorry for the typo. K. ___

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joram, > *What I want to achieve* is to have ~10 independent pieces and > concatenate all of them into one book as well as printing everyone on > its own. I do this all the time: my musicals each have 20+ independent "cues" (songs, instrumentals, etc.); the songs are always printed together i

Re: bookparts

2018-03-05 Thread Graeme Lee
Hi Noeck. On 5/03/2018 4:09 AM, Noeck wrote: Hi, I need some further insights in what a bookpart is. I've read the doc but it is very short on the issue: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/multiple-scores-in-a-book My understanding from try and error is this (and I would be ha

Re: bookparts

2018-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/18 19:11, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > >>> book = file >>> bookpart = portion of file with forced page break >>> >>> No? >> >> No. One input file can have several books (and there is one implicit >> book where scores and bookparts outside of books end up). >> > >> There might b

Re: bookparts

2018-03-04 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >>> book = file >>> bookpart = portion of file with forced page break >>> >>> No? >> >> No. One input file can have several books (and there is one implicit >> book where scores and bookparts outside of books end up). >> > >> There might be more of a con

Re: bookparts

2018-03-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, >> book = file >> bookpart = portion of file with forced page break >> >> No? > > No. One input file can have several books (and there is one implicit > book where scores and bookparts outside of books end up). > > There might be more of a connection with output files Yes, sorry…

Re: bookparts

2018-03-04 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> I actually don't have much of an idea how bookparts are supposed to work >> and what differentiates them from books reliably and whether books may >> be used as bookparts and vice versa and what that means. >> >> The C++ data structures are the same. bo

Re: bookparts

2018-03-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > I actually don't have much of an idea how bookparts are supposed to work > and what differentiates them from books reliably and whether books may > be used as bookparts and vice versa and what that means. > > The C++ data structures are the same. books always have a paper block, > bu

Re: bookparts

2018-03-04 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2018-03-04 18:09 GMT+01:00 Noeck : >> Hi, >> >> I need some further insights in what a bookpart is. >> I've read the doc but it is very short on the issue: >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/multiple-scores-in-a-book >> My understanding from try and er

Re: bookparts

2018-03-04 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-03-04 18:09 GMT+01:00 Noeck : > Hi, > > I need some further insights in what a bookpart is. > I've read the doc but it is very short on the issue: > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/multiple-scores-in-a-book > My understanding from try and error is this (and I would be happ