Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Mensurstriche is a way to include (or a substitute for) "bar lines" for sources that didn't contain them, but without splitting the notes and/or rests that are "syncopated" over the bar lines the editor wants. By the way, is "mensurstriche" the established English term? I have no idea, bu

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Karl Hammar wrote Trevor Daniels wrote Karl Hammar wrote > Till: >> 8.5 Transcription of ancient music > > Why not call it "Editing" or "Making an edition", but transcription is > also fine. I think we'll stick with "Transcription" - it seems closer to the action being performed by those workin

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Karl Hammar
> Karl Hammar wrote > > Till: > >> 8.5 Transcription of ancient music > > > > Why not call it "Editing" or "Making an edition", but transcription is > > also fine. > > I think we'll stick with "Transcription" - it seems closer to the action > being performed by those working with ancient music,

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Karl Hammar wrote Till: 8.5 Transcription of ancient music Why not call it "Editing" or "Making an edition", but transcription is also fine. I think we'll stick with "Transcription" - it seems closer to the action being performed by those working with ancient music, who usually want to pres

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Karl Hammar wrote: Trevor: Would "Ancient and modern from one source" cover it. I can't think of anything shorter. Anyone else any better suggestions? Why not "Best practices" or the like. I was trying to capture the essence of the subject matter, which is printing both ancient and mode

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-07 Thread Karl Hammar
Trevor: > Would "Ancient and modern from one source" cover it. I can't think of > anything shorter. > > Anyone else any better suggestions? Why not "Best practices" or the like. Regards, /Karl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-07 Thread Karl Hammar
Sorry for coming in late in the game. Till: >  8.5 Transcription of ancient music Why not call it "Editing" or "Making an edition", but transcription is also fine. >  5.1 using the same source for the original and the transcription [Here > among others the snippets about reducing note length]

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-07 Thread Till Rettig
TECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments Trevor Daniels schrieb: Till Rettig wrote Hi, this would be my suggestion for the ancient section: 8.5 Transcription

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
TECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments Trevor Daniels schrieb: Till Rettig wrote Hi, this would be my suggestion for the ancient section: 8.5 Transcription of ancient music 5.1 using the same source for the or

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-07 Thread Till Rettig
Trevor Daniels schrieb: Till Rettig wrote Hi, this would be my suggestion for the ancient section: 8.5 Transcription of ancient music 5.1 using the same source for the original and the transcription [Here among others the snippets about reducing note length] 5.2 Incipits and Mensurstriche-

Re: Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Till Rettig wrote Hi, this would be my suggestion for the ancient section: 8.5 Transcription of ancient music 5.1 using the same source for the original and the transcription [Here among others the snippets about reducing note length] 5.2 Incipits and Mensurstriche-layout 5.3 Transcription o

Re: Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-07 Thread till Rettig
ilypond-user@gnu.org > Betreff: Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments > > > > Till Rettig wrote: > > I like this new layout of the second chapter! I hope, though, you can > > still > > consider my suggestions... > > :) Of course ... >

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:31:13 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Draft 7 (attached) I've placed a Common notation subsection Thanks, uploaded. > Seems to work quite well, but we've > now lost all mention of bowed instruments as there is nothing > left to say about them. *shru

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've added these headings. In some cases it seemed more appropriate to add the Refs heading at the subsection level, others at the subsubsection level. See Draft 6. I would rather have them all at the subsubsection level; it'

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:54:44 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graham Percival wrote > > "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> We need a good (unique) heading. How about > >> > >> 2.3.1.1 References for bowed strings > > > > Let's do that; it's the shortest one.

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We need a good (unique) heading. How about 2.3.1.1 References for bowed strings Let's do that; it's the shortest one. The other NR 2 sections will need similar headings. I've added these headings. In some cases it seemed

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:56:34 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We need a good (unique) heading. How about > > 2.3.1.1 References for bowed strings Let's do that; it's the shortest one. The other NR 2 sections will need similar headings. I suggest that we push the deadline bac

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote:> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:44:54 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Graham Percival wrote: I was thinking of an expanded "seealso" section. Kind-of like NR 1.2.1.1, but without the Duration information -- ie only the "for proportional notation, see blah. For

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:44:54 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > Where do all the "for fingerings, see @ref{fingers}" comments go? > > Do we need entries in Specialist notation for fingering? This seems > too ubiquitous to be called "specialist", unless

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Till Rettig wrote: I like this new layout of the second chapter! I hope, though, you can still consider my suggestions... :) Of course ... I could think of a section on how to center lyrics between staves -- I would remember this was recently more than once topic on -user. Or would this g

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Till
Hi, I like this new layout of the second chapter! I hope, though, you can still consider my suggestions... I could think of a section on how to center lyrics between staves -- I would remember this was recently more than once topic on -user. Or would this go to "hymn"? I didn't check the templat

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Tomas Valusek wrote: where will be cross-voice ties/slurs documented? They are quite common in advanced keyboard/guitar music. Braille notation has special markings for such situations. I guess they could be required in music for any instrument that supports polyphony, so my feeling is that t

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, where will be cross-voice ties/slurs documented? They are quite common in advanced keyboard/guitar music. Braille notation has special markings for such situations. Tomas Valusek Trevor Daniels napsal(a): Grand Documentation Project The latest draft of the proposed section headings

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Le dimanche 06 avril 2008 à 10:09 +0100, Trevor Daniels a écrit : > ... but I prefer to introduce a Common notation section > under Wind instruments as we do for Keyboards and several other > sections and place anything about half-holes there. Basic vocals Common notation f

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The latest draft of the proposed section headings for the reorganisation of NR 2 is now posted on http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/NR2-draft.txt , labelled Draft 5. Where do all the "for fingerings, see @ref{fingers}" comments go?

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 06 avril 2008 à 10:09 +0100, Trevor Daniels a écrit : > > ... but I prefer to introduce a Common notation section > > under Wind instruments as we do for Keyboards and several other > > sections and place anything about half-holes there. > > This isn't possible, as Graham has pointed o

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote: Grand Documentation Project ... but I prefer to introduce a Common notation section under Wind instruments as we do for Keyboards and several other sections and place anything about half-holes there. This isn't possible, as Graham has pointed out :( If you create new

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Trevor Daniels wrote: Grand Documentation Project The latest draft of the proposed section headings for the reorganisation of NR 2 is now posted on http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/NR2-draft.txt , labelled Draft 5. *** This is the final call for comments on this proposed re

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-05 Thread John Mandereau
Trevor Daniels wrote: > Grand Documentation Project > > The latest draft of the proposed section headings for the reorganisation of > NR 2 is now posted on http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/NR2-draft.txt , labelled > Draft 5. > > *** This is the final call for comments on this proposed reorganisatio

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 23:52:25 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The latest draft of the proposed section headings for the > reorganisation of NR 2 is now posted on > http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/NR2-draft.txt , labelled Draft 5. Where do all the "for fingerings, see @ref{fingers}"