Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-17 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 03.16, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > alanvw wrote: > > PS I would like to hear from others who use Notepad++ and a comment from > > Han. > > (the name's Han-Wen, not Han). > > it looks interesting, since it can be compiled under MinGW as well. > However, It also looks like i

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-16 Thread Trent Johnston
ubject: RE: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17 Hi! If you're using Windoze, you might want to use Wordpad, instead of Notepad as your editor. I've found on my windoze machine that this is the easiest editor to use -- I think it's part of their dist

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-16 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
alanvw wrote: PS I would like to hear from others who use Notepad++ and a comment from Han. (the name's Han-Wen, not Han). it looks interesting, since it can be compiled under MinGW as well. However, It also looks like it might be a bit heavyweight for our purposes. The binaries weigh in

RE: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-16 Thread alanvw
Hi! If you're using Windoze, you might want to use Wordpad, instead of Notepad as your editor. I've found on my windoze machine that this is the easiest editor to use -- I think it's part of their distro. I tried installing jEdit, but only got as far as installing java, and haven't been

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-16 Thread D Josiah Boothby
There were a few mentioned above. Someone recently pointed out that Emacs is available for Windows, and (if you prefer) so is Vim (both are easy to find with google). In my former windows days, I used NoteTab: http://www.notetab.com/ My brother, who actually makes money writing code, likes met

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-15 Thread stk
Paul Scott wrote: > Besides the several editors commonly used by LilyPond people mentioned > on this list there are several nice shareware editors which really are > text editors like EditPad. "Several" nice text editors for Windows? Can you name some of the others? Thanks. -- Tom __

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-15 Thread Paul Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Scott wrote: Besides the several editors commonly used by LilyPond people mentioned on this list there are several nice shareware editors which really are text editors like EditPad. "Several" nice text editors for Windows? Can you name some of the others

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-12 Thread Paul Scott
Gordon Gilbert wrote: Hi! If you're using Windoze, you might want to use Wordpad, instead of Notepad as your editor. I've found on my windoze machine that this is the easiest editor to use -- I think it's part of their distro. I tried installing jEdit, but only got as far as installing jav

RE: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-12 Thread Gordon Gilbert
Hi! If you're using Windoze, you might want to use Wordpad, instead of Notepad as your editor. I've found on my windoze machine that this is the easiest editor to use -- I think it's part of their distro. I tried installing jEdit, but only got as far as installing java, and haven't been able

RE: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-11 Thread Nahum Wengrov
-Original Message- From: ... On Behalf Of Han-Wen Nienhuys Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 18:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Linda Seltzer; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17 Erik Sandberg wrote: > Lilypond doesn't ship with an editor on the

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-11 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > it actually does. It's called lilypad. It's comparable to notepad, > functionality-wise. The idea was to extend it with a Run button or menu, but I ran out of time when doing the first native windows port. Now we have the nicer lilypad on MacOS, and IWBN to have someth

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Erik Sandberg wrote: Lilypond doesn't ship with an editor on the Windows platform. The probably it actually does. It's called lilypad. It's comparable to notepad, functionality-wise. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-11 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Friday 06 January 2006 02.22, Linda Seltzer wrote: > User Experience engineering does not require a GUI or an abandonment of the > programming and typesetting approach. It does not require the abandonment > of providing detailed features. What it requires is that the language > and documentati

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> My input *is* informative and is based on years of professional > experience and expertise. Linda, we believe you. > I would also state that development efforts are helped tremendously > if a specialist in user interface design evaluates development every > step of the way. The most successfu

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-06 Thread stk
Hans Forbrich wrote: > I see value in the discussion, but also a serious distraction for the > primary developers. Is it worth taking this offline? Graham Percival wrote: > You want to have an offline private email discussion group? Count me > in! :) "Offline" ? If this means turning off my

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > That's great. Please jour the development team. We warmly welcome ^join Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org _

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Linda Seltzer writes: > My input *is* informative and is based on years of professional > experience and expertise. That's great. Please jour the development team. We warmly welcome anyone with a gripe who wants to spend time on fixing it. It help if she hase lots of expertise, but time spent

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Joe Neeman
Linda Seltzer wrote: For example, if one is running on a Windows environment, one should not have to install another editor and worry about getting that to work, and the outputs should be easily usable and readable by other programs without having to install other kinds of programs and accessori

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Graham Percival
On 5-Jan-06, at 6:15 PM, Hans Forbrich wrote: I see value in the discussion, but also a serious distraction for the primary developers. Is it worth taking this offline? ... You want to have an offline private email discussion group? Count me in! :) Cheers, - Graham

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Graham Percival
On 5-Jan-06, at 5:22 PM, Linda Seltzer wrote: For example, if one is running on a Windows environment, one should not have to install another editor and worry about getting that to work, and the outputs should be easily usable and readable by other programs without having to install other ki

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Hans Forbrich
I see value in the discussion, but also a serious distraction for the primary developers. Is it worth taking this offline? It's easy enough to create a private discussion group (invitation only, no spam scrapers - we hope). Let me know (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Proud user of Lilypon

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Linda Seltzer wrote: My input *is* informative and is based on years of professional experience and expertise. I prefer to take any input on face-value. FWIW, we have had lots valuable feedback from people that are anything but experienced or professional. I would also state that developme

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Linda Seltzer
My input *is* informative and is based on years of professional experience and expertise. I would also state that development efforts are helped tremendously if a specialist in user interface design evaluates development every step of the way. The most successful development projects in industry

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Linda Seltzer wrote: would disagree, let alone generate a flame war. I have seen multi-million projects go down the drain because the management didn't pay attention to issues such as marketing or the user experience. And of course, lily will also go this route, as the development team never

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-05 Thread Linda Seltzer
User Experience engineering does not require a GUI or an abandonment of the programming and typesetting approach. It does not require the abandonment of providing detailed features. What it requires is that the language and documentation are clear and that functionality doesn't require time- cons