Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 10/02/2017 04:47, Thomas Richter wrote: > I wrote an extension for 72ET "Ekmelily": > http://www.ekmelic-music.org/en/extra/ekmelily.htm > It uses by default ins own font (Ekmelos) but it should work with e.g. > Bravura, too. > Thanks, Thomas. It looks like excellent work. It should be merged

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 10:58, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 10 Feb 2017, at 10:24, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Hans Åberg writes: >>> > On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:39, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: >> enthused

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 10 Feb 2017, at 10:24, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:39, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: > enthused. Why wouldn't we want to have best practices pointed out and >>>

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Thomas Richter
Am 09.02.2017 um 20:18 schrieb Bernardo Barros: Hello, Quarter-tones (24ET) work very well and use the most used symbols. Is there any implementation of eighth-tone (48ET) with arrows for the 8th-tone alterations, or even better, 72ET? I know "makam.ly" could be a good start, I'm just wonderin

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 10:24, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:39, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: enthused. Why wouldn't we want to have best practices pointed out and promoted on the user list?

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 10:22, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:35, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Hans Åberg writes: >>> > On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:16, David Kastrup wrote: > > So is there any reason people don't use convert-ly when upgrading t

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 04:20, Bernardo Barros wrote: > > On 09/02/2017 17:22, Hans Åberg wrote: > >> 1. >> https://secure2.storegate.com/Shares/Home.aspx?ShareID=35e0b920-6910-4e4f-8340-7d8290115dda > thank you! Let me know if it works! ___ lilypo

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:34, Urs Liska wrote: > > Am 10.02.2017 um 00:22 schrieb Hans Åberg: >>> So is there any reason people don't use convert-ly when upgrading to a >>> newer version? >>> >> For libraries, you would want to keep track of the changes, but running >> convert-ly and do a diff i

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:39, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: >> >> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: >>> enthused. Why wouldn't we want to have best practices pointed out and >>> promoted on the user list? >> >> Best practices do not include attacking other list user

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:55, Simon Albrecht wrote: > > On 10.02.2017 00:19, Hans Åberg wrote: >> If LilyPond knows how to run the code via convert-ly, why does it not do it? > > LilyPond itself doesn’t change the code it is reading. convert-ly is a > separate Python script. > It might be a vali

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:35, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:16, David Kastrup wrote: So is there any reason people don't use convert-ly when upgrading to a newer version? >>> >>> For libraries, you would want to

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:39, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: >> enthused. Why wouldn't we want to have best practices pointed out and >> promoted on the user list? > > Best practices do not include attacking other list users. It is the human interfa

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-10 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:35, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:16, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> So is there any reason people don't use convert-ly when upgrading to >>> a newer version? >> >> For libraries, you would want to keep track of the changes, bu

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Breed writes: > It's unfortunate that my library is out of date. It's good that > convert-ly fixes it. One issue with this is that libraries (at least > the way I use them, which may also be out of date) don't declare the > Lilypond version. It's in the including score file and if the >

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 10.02.2017 00:19, Hans Åberg wrote: >> If LilyPond knows how to run the code via convert-ly, why does it not do it? > > LilyPond itself doesn’t change the code it is reading. convert-ly is a > separate Python script. > It might be a valid feature request, though, to ha

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Graham Breed
s irrelevant here. What regular.ly does is retune the note names for a different size of fifth. 48 and 72 ET keep the same fifth as 12 ET. What you need is a new "language" for the note names and appropriate glyphs. I have files to support arbitrary fonts but there are issues with

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 09/02/2017 17:22, Hans Åberg wrote: > 1. > https://secure2.storegate.com/Shares/Home.aspx?ShareID=35e0b920-6910-4e4f-8340-7d8290115dda > > thank you! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lily

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 10.02.2017 00:19, Hans Åberg wrote: If LilyPond knows how to run the code via convert-ly, why does it not do it? LilyPond itself doesn’t change the code it is reading. convert-ly is a separate Python script. It might be a valid feature request, though, to have a command-line option which m

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread mskala
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: > enthused. Why wouldn't we want to have best practices pointed out and > promoted on the user list? Best practices do not include attacking other list users. -- Matthew Skala msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca People before principles. http://ans

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:16, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> So is there any reason people don't use convert-ly when upgrading to >> a newer version? > > For libraries, you would want to keep track of the changes, but > running convert-ly and do a diff is a good suggestion. conve

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.02.2017 um 00:22 schrieb Hans Åberg: >> So is there any reason people don't use convert-ly when upgrading to a >> newer version? > For libraries, you would want to keep track of the changes, but running > convert-ly and do a diff is a good suggestion. Though doing it by hand was > quicker

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes: > On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: >> I'll stick with my "that doesn't even make sense" verdict, thank you >> very much. > > Don't ask the question if you're going to attack the answer. When I ask for a reason why one would _not_ use documented best practi

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:16, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:53, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Hans Åberg writes: >>> > On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:44, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:24, David Kas

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 00:05, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: >> I'll stick with my "that doesn't even make sense" verdict, thank you >> very much. > > Don't ask the question if you're going to attack the answer. Your > contributions to LilyPond develo

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:53, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:44, David Kastrup wrote: Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:24, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread mskala
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, David Kastrup wrote: > I'll stick with my "that doesn't even make sense" verdict, thank you > very much. Don't ask the question if you're going to attack the answer. Your contributions to LilyPond development don't excuse you from practicing basic civility. -- Matthew Skala

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:53, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:44, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Hans Åberg writes: >>> > On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:24, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:10, David Kast

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:44, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:24, David Kastrup wrote: Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:10, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:44, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:24, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Hans Åberg writes: >>> > On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:10, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingra

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:24, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:10, David Kastrup wrote: Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingraham wrote: >> >> I've used Sagittal notation based on ht

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:24, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:10, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Hans Åberg writes: >>> > On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingraham wrote: > > I've used Sagittal notation based on http://x31eq.com/lilypond/ >

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:10, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingraham wrote: I've used Sagittal notation based on http://x31eq.com/lilypond/ before. I don't know if that still works with more recent version

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:13, Bernardo Barros wrote: > > On 09/02/2017 16:46, Hans Åberg wrote: >> Yes, I have. I use it for E53 Helmholtz-Ellis notation, which >> requires the Bravura font... > > Have you publish this code somewhere? I just put it up at [1]. You need to have the Bravura font ins

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 09/02/2017 16:46, Hans Åberg wrote: > Yes, I have. I use it for E53 Helmholtz-Ellis notation, which > requires the Bravura font... Have you publish this code somewhere? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailm

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingraham wrote: >> >> I've used Sagittal notation based on http://x31eq.com/lilypond/ >> before. I don't know if that still works with more recent versions >> though. Haven't touched it in a while. > > I get an error in LilyPond 2.19.45, with

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:10, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingraham wrote: >>> >>> I've used Sagittal notation based on http://x31eq.com/lilypond/ >>> before. I don't know if that still works with more recent versions >>> though. Haven't touche

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:00, Hans Åberg wrote: > > >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingraham wrote: >> >> I've used Sagittal notation based on http://x31eq.com/lilypond/ before. I >> don't know if that still works with more recent versions though. Haven't >> touched it in a while. > > I get

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingraham wrote: > > I've used Sagittal notation based on http://x31eq.com/lilypond/ before. I > don't know if that still works with more recent versions though. Haven't > touched it in a while. I get an error in LilyPond 2.19.45, with an unbound variable "parse

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Bernardo Barros wrote: > > On 09/02/2017 16:29, Bernardo Barros wrote: >> It indeed looks like LilyPond default font doesn't have all the >> necessary glyphs. > > You're right, SMuFL implements Sims’s accidental system for 72-ET, and > "Extended Stein-Zimmermann" whic

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Cole Ingraham wrote: > > I've used Sagittal notation based on http://x31eq.com/lilypond/ before. I > don't know if that still works with more recent versions though. Haven't > touched it in a while. I was able to tweak regular.ly so it worked on latest LilyPond, but

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Cole Ingraham
I've used Sagittal notation based on http://x31eq.com/lilypond/ before. I don't know if that still works with more recent versions though. Haven't touched it in a while. -Cole On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > On 09/02/2017 14:59, Hans Åberg wrote: > > Multiples of 12 are

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 09/02/2017 16:29, Bernardo Barros wrote: > It indeed looks like LilyPond default font doesn't have all the > necessary glyphs. You're right, SMuFL implements Sims’s accidental system for 72-ET, and "Extended Stein-Zimmermann" which could be used for 48-ET.

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:29, Bernardo Barros wrote: > > On 09/02/2017 14:59, Hans Åberg wrote: >> Multiples of 12 are straightforward, though LilyPond glyphs are >> limited. For other ETs, use Graham Breed's regular.ly. More glyphs >> can be gotten using SMuFL.org with OpenLilyPond. > > Thank you

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 09/02/2017 14:59, Hans Åberg wrote: > Multiples of 12 are straightforward, though LilyPond glyphs are > limited. For other ETs, use Graham Breed's regular.ly. More glyphs > can be gotten using SMuFL.org with OpenLilyPond. Thank you for your reply, Hans Yes, it looks like all the tools are alre

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:18, Simon Albrecht wrote: > > On 09.02.2017 20:59, Hans Åberg wrote: >> Multiples of 12 are straightforward, though LilyPond glyphs are limited. For >> other ETs, use Graham Breed's regular.ly. More glyphs can be gotten using >> SMuFL.org with OpenLilyPond. > > read: op

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 20:59, Hans Åberg wrote: Multiples of 12 are straightforward, though LilyPond glyphs are limited. For other ETs, use Graham Breed's regular.ly. More glyphs can be gotten using SMuFL.org with OpenLilyPond. read: openLilyLib, right? Best, Simon ___

Re: 48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 20:18, Bernardo Barros wrote: > Quarter-tones (24ET) work very well and use the most used symbols. > > Is there any implementation of eighth-tone (48ET) with arrows for the > 8th-tone alterations, or even better, 72ET? Multiples of 12 are straightforward, though LilyPond gl

48 and 72 ET

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
Hello, Quarter-tones (24ET) work very well and use the most used symbols. Is there any implementation of eighth-tone (48ET) with arrows for the 8th-tone alterations, or even better, 72ET? I know "makam.ly" could be a good start, I'm just wondering if anyone has done it already. Thank you!