Re: LilyPond blog

2017-10-16 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Karlin, yes, such a periodic series of posts would be nice! Would you like to write such posts? Anyone else? If there is activity on the blog we will find someone to maintain it. Jan-Peter Am 17.10.2017 um 04:15 schrieb Karlin High: How about a regular feature like "Last Month in LilyPond

Re: LilyPond blog

2017-10-16 Thread Karlin High
How about a regular feature like "Last Month in LilyPond?" Sometimes I lose track of what's all happened in the development version, and why it matters. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Hi all, > > "Scores of Beauty" (http://lilypondblog.org) is LIlypond's semi-official > commu

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 16 Oct 2017 at 14:38:11 (-0500), Ken Williams wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:11 PM, David Wright > wrote: > > > It strikes me that notating this unusual effect on one staff > > increases ambiguity and the potential for mistakes, compared with > > just duplicating the notes on the norm

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Chris Yate
On 16 Oct 2017 20:38, "Ken Williams" wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:11 PM, David Wright wrote: > It strikes me that notating this unusual effect on one staff > increases ambiguity and the potential for mistakes, compared with > just duplicating the notes on the normal two staves. When chor

LilyPond blog

2017-10-16 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, "Scores of Beauty" (http://lilypondblog.org) is LIlypond's semi-official community blog, not my personal publicity platform. Therefore I'm not happy to see that withdrawing from actual activity on my side seems to result in basically a total mute of the blog. I don't see how I will g

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Rodney Duplessis
Hi Ben, It does sound strange, I’ll admit. But I’m writing a string quartet and one of the performers asked for it to be notated that way after we discussed other options. I’m still not sure whether it’s the best way or not, but I wanted to know if it was possible. Luckily, Malte Meyn’s solutio

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-10-16 23:03 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht : > Hi Harm, > > I found the attached file on my computer, which is for parenthesizing all > kinds of grobs. It does a really good job on many grobs; with NoteColumns > and NoteHeads it doesn’t work anymore (in v2.19.65), and it’s not designed > for glissan

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Harm, I found the attached file on my computer, which is for parenthesizing all kinds of grobs. It does a really good job on many grobs; with NoteColumns and NoteHeads it doesn’t work anymore (in v2.19.65), and it’s not designed for glissando (the glissando in the example is my own additio

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-10-16 22:52 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht : > On 16.10.2017 22:43, Thomas Morley wrote: >> >> Here my attempt: > > > There is – maybe it > would make sense to collect some information there? > > Best, Simon Well, one problem is the amount of

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 22:43, Thomas Morley wrote: Here my attempt: There is – maybe it would make sense to collect some information there? Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 16.10.2017 um 22:48 schrieb Thomas Morley: Nice. Though, I'd use \vcenter instead of \raise #-0.5 Oh, you’re right. Didn’t think of that, I’m no markup possibilities expert ;) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-10-16 22:24 GMT+02:00 Malte Meyn : > > > Am 16.10.2017 um 19:38 schrieb Rodney Duplessis: >> >> I want to put a glissando in parentheses. I’ve tried to adapt some >> snippets (for example, http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=902 and >> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=647) to my needs but I c

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-10-16 19:38 GMT+02:00 Rodney Duplessis : > I want to put a glissando in parentheses. I’ve tried to adapt some snippets > (for example, http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=902 and > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=647) to my needs but I couldn’t get any > results. > > Best, > Rodney It's n

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Ken, > I honestly did not expect this kind of response, and I'm getting it from > multiple people. > I asked a technical question and got a whole bunch of "answers" saying I'm > stupid to try to achieve that effect. A large number of people on this list are also composers, arrangers, perfor

Re: Engraving the old way

2017-10-16 Thread Karlin High
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Ali Cuota wrote: > Hi, > > Which app does er use in is Home-office? > > Francois Do you mean in the video? I think it was a hammer and engraving punches. :) > 2017-10-12 14:00 GMT-05:00, Herbert Liechti : >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYZbULcoVtw >> >> Enjoy

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 16.10.2017 um 19:38 schrieb Rodney Duplessis: I want to put a glissando in parentheses. I’ve tried to adapt some snippets (for example, http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=902 and http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=647) to my needs but I couldn’t get any results. How about this? Can be us

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Karlin High
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > If LilyPond or its community isn't friendly to people who want to experiment > with notation, I guess I'm finding that out pretty quickly. > > -Ken As far as experimental notation, something crazy-different like the Sorabij curve... http://

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 22:10, David Kastrup wrote: Ken Williams writes: On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:11 PM, David Wright wrote: It strikes me that notating this unusual effect on one staff increases ambiguity and the potential for mistakes, compared with just duplicating the notes on the normal two stav

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Ken Williams writes: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:11 PM, David Wright > wrote: > >> It strikes me that notating this unusual effect on one staff >> increases ambiguity and the potential for mistakes, compared with >> just duplicating the notes on the normal two staves. When choral >> basses look

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Ken Williams writes: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:53 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Simon Albrecht writes: >> >> > On 16.10.2017 18:01, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Chris Yate writes: >> >> >> >>> Many choral basses can't read treble clef, and tenors might sing the >> wrong >> >>> pitch, as they'

Re: Engraving the old way

2017-10-16 Thread Ali Cuota
Hi, Which app does er use in is Home-office? Francois http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png"; alt="" width="46" heig

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Guy Stalnaker
Ken, Your experience mirrors my own on this list. I tend, for that reason, to "lurk" on the list and use its archives and the Lilypond Snippet Repository as much as possible. For my own purposes that has usually sufficed. Sorry. But don't give up on Lilypond! It is an amazing beast. Unfortunately

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Ken Williams
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:11 PM, David Wright wrote: > It strikes me that notating this unusual effect on one staff > increases ambiguity and the potential for mistakes, compared with > just duplicating the notes on the normal two staves. When choral > basses look at an E on the bottom line of a

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 21:29, Ken Williams wrote: That's a question for the composer, not the engraver.  And it is legitimate for a composer to request unison. Of course it’s legitimate, and it’s the engraver’s job to figure out a clear, yet economical way of writing it. I’d probably agree that it’s b

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 20:49, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: On 16.10.2017 19:30, David Kastrup wrote: So how much memory do you have and how much swap space? I used to have 4GB of RAM and no swap space set up – now I set some up and it worked. 4GB is not exactly small. This amount of m

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Ken Williams
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > I am [slowly, but surely] putting together a whitepaper/framework which > focuses on the numerous (!) ways this can be accomplished in Lilypond. They > each have advantages and disadvantages, and each has i

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Ken Williams
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:53 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Simon Albrecht writes: > > > On 16.10.2017 18:01, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Chris Yate writes: > >> > >>> Many choral basses can't read treble clef, and tenors might sing the > wrong > >>> pitch, as they're used to reading octave treble..

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > Hello everybody, > > I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 > pages of output) with 2.19.65: everything is fine until GS fails with > the message > warning: g_spawn_sync failed (0): gs: Failed to fork (Cannot allocate > memory). > Compiling

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 16.10.2017 19:30, David Kastrup wrote: >> So how much memory do you have and how much swap space? > > I used to have 4GB of RAM and no swap space set up – now I set some up > and it worked. 4GB is not exactly small. This amount of memory use points to a very large jo

Re: Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Ben
On 10/16/2017 1:38 PM, Rodney Duplessis wrote: I want to put a glissando in parentheses. I’ve tried to adapt some snippets (for example, http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=902 and http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=647) to my needs but I couldn’t get any results. Best, Rodney I admit I ha

Glissando in parentheses

2017-10-16 Thread Rodney Duplessis
I want to put a glissando in parentheses. I’ve tried to adapt some snippets (for example, http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=902 and http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=647) to my needs but I couldn’t get any results. Best, Rodney ___ lilypond-user mai

RE: Need assistance hammering a Hymn template together

2017-10-16 Thread mogens
From: Bruno Boyko Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:52 2. What would be considered "best practice" when dealing with hymns where the refrain is first, such as in "Lift High the Cross?" The hymnal “Evangelical Lutheran Worship” uses Refrain \bar “|.” Verses \bar ”.” which seems clear to me.

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 19:46, Knut Petersen wrote: The glib function g_spawn_sync() is called from  our general-scheme.cc file in ly_run_command(). It seems your system is low on memory. Did you set a limit on memory usage? You might run lilypond under control of gdb, set a breakpoint at the start o

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 19:30, David Kastrup wrote: So how much memory do you have and how much swap space? I used to have 4GB of RAM and no swap space set up – now I set some up and it worked. Thanks for the hint, and the patience, Best, Simon ___ lilypond

Re: Need assistance hammering a Hymn template together

2017-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 16 Oct 2017 at 10:45:39 (-0600), Bruno Boyko wrote: > 2. What would be considered "best practice" when dealing with hymns where > the refrain is first, such as in "Lift High the Cross?" It depends what appearance you want. If the refrain takes an integral number of lines, just precede eac

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 16.10.2017 um 19:23 schrieb Simon Albrecht: On 16.10.2017 18:50, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: On 16.10.2017 17:13, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: Hello everybody, I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 pages of output) with 2.1

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 16.10.2017 18:50, David Kastrup wrote: >> Simon Albrecht writes: >>> On 16.10.2017 17:13, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: > Hello everybody, > > I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 > pages of output)

Re: Need assistance hammering a Hymn template together

2017-10-16 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello br. bruno, You can control where a rest shows up with say b\rest JM > Le 16 oct. 2017 à 18:55, David Kastrup a écrit : > > Bruno Boyko mailto:brbruno...@gmail.com>> writes: > >> Hello all: >> >> I am reworking our Office Books (public prayer books) and as part of that I >> am

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 18:50, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: On 16.10.2017 17:13, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: Hello everybody, I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 pages of output) with 2.19.65: everything is fine until GS fails with the

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 16 Oct 2017 at 18:31:36 (+0200), Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 16.10.2017 18:28, Simon Albrecht wrote: > >On 16.10.2017 17:13, David Kastrup wrote: > >>Simon Albrecht writes: > >> > >>>Hello everybody, > >>> > >>>I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 > >>>pages

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 16 Oct 2017 at 18:30:12 (+0200), Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 16.10.2017 18:01, David Kastrup wrote: > >Chris Yate writes: > > > >>Personally I think it's clearer to just use two staves, Treble and Bass. > >> > >>Many choral basses can't read treble clef, and tenors might sing the wrong > >>p

Re: Need assistance hammering a Hymn template together

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Bruno Boyko writes: > Hello all: > > I am reworking our Office Books (public prayer books) and as part of that I > am putting together a hymn template I have come reasonably close to what I > want, thanks to modifying the hymn template found in Frescobaldi. I only > need one voice and it isn't SA

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 16.10.2017 18:01, David Kastrup wrote: >> Chris Yate writes: >> >>> Personally I think it's clearer to just use two staves, Treble and Bass. >>> >>> Many choral basses can't read treble clef, and tenors might sing the wrong >>> pitch, as they're used to reading octave

Need assistance hammering a Hymn template together

2017-10-16 Thread Bruno Boyko
Hello all: I am reworking our Office Books (public prayer books) and as part of that I am putting together a hymn template I have come reasonably close to what I want, thanks to modifying the hymn template found in Frescobaldi. I only need one voice and it isn't SATB. Here is a snippet:: \version

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 16.10.2017 17:13, David Kastrup wrote: >> Simon Albrecht writes: >> >>> Hello everybody, >>> >>> I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 >>> pages of output) with 2.19.65: everything is fine until GS fails with >>> the message >>> warnin

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > That’s why the OP clarified that he meant “true unison, not octaves”. This is a constant struggle in musical theatre scores, where quite often vocal/choral parts — especially homophonic sections — will [necessarily] be put on a single staff, but the intended voicing isn’t made clear.

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 18:28, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 16.10.2017 17:13, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: Hello everybody, I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 pages of output) with 2.19.65: everything is fine until GS fails with the message warning: g_spa

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 18:01, David Kastrup wrote: Chris Yate writes: Personally I think it's clearer to just use two staves, Treble and Bass. Many choral basses can't read treble clef, and tenors might sing the wrong pitch, as they're used to reading octave treble... Tenors (and basses) are supposed

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 17:13, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: Hello everybody, I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 pages of output) with 2.19.65: everything is fine until GS fails with the message warning: g_spawn_sync failed (0): gs: Failed to fork (Cann

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Chris Yate writes: > Personally I think it's clearer to just use two staves, Treble and Bass. > > Many choral basses can't read treble clef, and tenors might sing the wrong > pitch, as they're used to reading octave treble... Tenors (and basses) are supposed to be singing one octave lower in "un

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Chris Yate
Personally I think it's clearer to just use two staves, Treble and Bass. Many choral basses can't read treble clef, and tenors might sing the wrong pitch, as they're used to reading octave treble... Chris On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 at 14:50 Ken Williams wrote: > I have a choral piece where some of it

Re: GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > Hello everybody, > > I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 > pages of output) with 2.19.65: everything is fine until GS fails with > the message > warning: g_spawn_sync failed (0): gs: Failed to fork (Cannot allocate > memory). > Compiling

GS error on somewhat large score

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello everybody, I’ve just noticed a problem when compiling a medium to large score (44 pages of output) with 2.19.65: everything is fine until GS fails with the message warning: g_spawn_sync failed (0): gs: Failed to fork (Cannot allocate memory). Compiling the 3–5 page bookparts individuall

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.10.2017 04:15, Ken Williams wrote: I get the impression the mailing list is more well-trafficked? Yes, generally the -user list is the best place to ask. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mai

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Ken, > I have a choral piece where some of it is 4-part divisi SATB, and some of it > is unison (true unison, not octaves). I would love to notate this in LilyPond > with the two (women's & men's) staves combining visually into one staff - > when in the middle of a printed line, I'd like it

Re: Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Michael Gerdau
Hi Ken, > I have a choral piece where some of it is 4-part divisi SATB, and some of it > is unison (true unison, not octaves). I would love to notate this in LilyPond > with the two (women's & men's) staves combining visually into one staff - > when in the middle of a printed line, I'd like it

Reducing staff numbers in LilyPond

2017-10-16 Thread Ken Williams
I have a choral piece where some of it is 4-part divisi SATB, and some of it is unison (true unison, not octaves). I would love to notate this in LilyPond with the two (women's & men's) staves combining visually into one staff - when in the middle of a printed line, I'd like it to actually converge

Re: create more horizontal space per

2017-10-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-10-16 9:36 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > Ryan Michael writes: > >> % >> >> it properly scales when I override the spacing. >> >> When I have this context, however, it doesn't work: >> >> %% >> \version "2.14.1" >> { >> \time 3/8 >> cis16 r8. gis8 >> >> \time 5/8 \tuplet

Re: create more horizontal space per

2017-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Ryan Michael writes: > % > > it properly scales when I override the spacing. > > When I have this context, however, it doesn't work: > > %% > \version "2.14.1" > { > \time 3/8 > cis16 r8. gis8 > > \time 5/8 \tuplet 3/2{ c![ e,] r8} > > \tuplet 3/2{ c' ees, r8} r8 > > > \ba

Re: create more horizontal space per

2017-10-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Ryan, I can’t test your examples since I don’t have 2.14 around (seriously? That’s like ten years old). On 16.10.2017 04:33, Ryan Michael wrote: \override Score.SpacingSpanner.spacing-increment = #40 You can’t override SpacingSpanner on the fly without creating a new one, so you need t