Re: Bad extent estimation causing too much vertical spacing

2015-04-16 Thread Peter Bašista
Hi Stephen, thank you for the opinion, but that would result in a score which has 7 pages. :) I am looking for shorter, more condensed score because, first, I am almost sure it can fit and second, it would make the song take only two sheets of paper which is ideal for my purposes. I agree that it

Re: Replacing TupletBracket with Slur

2015-04-16 Thread Stephen MacNeil
you can tweak it more -- it's adapted from what i use I also use tupslurU when i need them on top tupslurD = { \override TupletBracket.stencil = #ly:slur::print \override TupletBracket.direction = #DOWN \override TupletBracket.thickness = #3 \override TupletBracket.positions = #'(-4 . -3.5)

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread MING TSANG
Urs:I am interested. Keep me posted. Thanks.Immanuel,Ming.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Stephen MacNeil
Hello Urs, Me as well Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

RE:Bad extent estimation causing too much vertical spacing

2015-04-16 Thread Stephen MacNeil
in that example i would use \paper { system-system-spacing #'basic-distance = #20 } Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Caio Giovaneti de Barros
On 16-04-2015 21:31, Urs Liska wrote: Am 17.04.2015 um 02:16 schrieb Jay Anderson: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Urs Liska wrote: If I should be asked to engrave a big score (as fast as possible) in a commercial context and wouldn't want to reply "well, I will ask around and see how

Re: Replacing TupletBracket with Slur

2015-04-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-04-16 13:13 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : > Hi, > > I know this has been asked before, but the solutions I found don't seem to > work for me. > > I've got this beautiful example with "slurred" tuplet brackets that you can > see attached. But actually the file \omit-s the TupletBracket and writes an >

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 17.04.2015 um 02:16 schrieb Jay Anderson: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Urs Liska wrote: If I should be asked to engrave a big score (as fast as possible) in a commercial context and wouldn't want to reply "well, I will ask around and see how many people I can get together", what could

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.04.2015 um 20:39 schrieb bart deruyter: Hi, I think it's a very interesting question, but I think the answer will always be very vague. Necessarily so. To get concrete answers one has to ask concrete questions. But sometimes one needs to have a vague idea on a subject to be able to con

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Jay Anderson
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > If I should be asked to engrave a big score (as fast as possible) in a > commercial context and wouldn't want to reply "well, I will ask around and > see how many people I can get together", what could I say? Would it be > realistic to say that

Re: Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Phil, As an IT specialist who used to do large scale performance tuning of big UNIX systems, let me add two A$ cents worth. Modern operating systems cache a lot of objects in memory. When a program is first run it can take much longer than the next time since disk blocks have to be loaded i

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Jay Anderson
Not one big score, but lots of smaller ones bundled: http://horndude77.github.io/horn-solos/. About 700 total pages (10x13in horn part, 9x12in piano). 2.19.17 - 9m39s 2.19.18 - 7m00s (a nice speed bump here.) Both max out around 6.5gb. I recall past versions required more memory. -Jay On Th

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 16.04.2015 um 20:03 schrieb Urs Liska: Hi all, this is more or less hypothetical and nothing to be excited about. I realize that I don't have a real idea about the size of our community, and particularly regarding the availability of music typesetters who could offer reliably continuous en

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Calixte Faure
I’d love to contribute to! Calixte. 2015-04-17 0:18 GMT+02:00 Shane Brandes : > For the time being I could participate in such an endeavor. > > Shane > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > this is more or less hypothetical and nothing to be excited > > abo

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Urs Liska wrote Thursday, April 16, 2015 6:43 PM > I'd like to have an idea how many people have already or are regularly > dealing with "big" scores, and maybe I'd like to know what might be the > biggest score anyone has successfully created with LilyPond. Most of my work with LilyPond is re

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Shane Brandes
For the time being I could participate in such an endeavor. Shane On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Hi all, > > this is more or less hypothetical and nothing to be excited > about. > I realize that I don't have a real idea about the size of our community, and > particularly r

Bad extent estimation causing too much vertical spacing

2015-04-16 Thread Peter Bašista
Hi LilyPond users, I would like to ask a question about the vertical spacing in a rather long score (example attached, sorry about the length but I was unable to reproduce the issue on a smaller scale). The problem which I am facing is that LilyPond leaves too much vertical space between systems a

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Basically I'd be interested in an estimate if there are practical > limitations where one would be better off skipping a commission because > LilyPond would be at its limit. I don’t think it’s likely to happen anytime soon. Many, many users over

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Johan Vromans
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:39:06 +0200 bart deruyter wrote: > [...] but it is, > even harder to find out what is ment with 'qualified engraver', at least > here in Belgium, because I don't even know what a 'qualified engraver' > means, nor how to get 'qualified' (I have no knowledge of any school > t

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread tisimst
Kieren & Urs, On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n174622...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Hi Urs, > > > I realize that I don't have a real idea about the size of our community, > and particularly regarding the availability of music typesetters who could

RE: Double- and triple-tonguing articulation

2015-04-16 Thread Steven Weber
http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=772 --Steven From: lilypond-user-bounces+panteck=hotmail@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+panteck=hotmail@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Trevor Baca Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:33 AM To: lilypond-user Subject: Double- and triple-tonguing art

Re: Double- and triple-tonguing articulation

2015-04-16 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi Alex, Hi Steven, Yes, this works perfectly. Thank you both. Trevor. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:54 PM, palisander wrote: > Trevor Bača-2 wrote > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know how to combine two (or three) staccato dots in a > > horizontal row above a note head? > > Trevor, > > This is, I th

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Luca Rossetto Casel
Il 16/04/2015 19:43, Urs Liska ha scritto: I'd like to have an idea how many people have already or are regularly dealing with "big" scores, and maybe I'd like to know what might be the biggest score anyone has successfully created with LilyPond. Dear Urs and all, my 'score monstre' is absolu

Re: Double- and triple-tonguing articulation

2015-04-16 Thread palisander
Trevor Bača-2 wrote > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to combine two (or three) staccato dots in a > horizontal row above a note head? Trevor, This is, I think, what you are looking for: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=772 Alex Voice -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Alberto Simões
Hello On 16/04/2015 19:39, bart deruyter wrote: Not only is it hard to estimate how many people use lilypond, but it is, even harder to find out what is ment with 'qualified engraver', at least here in Belgium, because I don't even know what a 'qualified engraver' means, nor how to get 'qualif

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread bart deruyter
Hi, I think it's a very interesting question, but I think the answer will always be very vague. Not only is it hard to estimate how many people use lilypond, but it is, even harder to find out what is ment with 'qualified engraver', at least here in Belgium, because I don't even know what a 'qual

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 07:55:48PM +0200, Urs Liska wrote: [...] > >What's your definition of a "big" score? > > Well, actually that depends on the results of the survey, I guess ... > > Basically I'd be interested in an estimate if there are practical > limitations where one would be better off

Double- and triple-tonguing articulation

2015-04-16 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi, Does anyone know how to combine two (or three) staccato dots in a horizontal row above a note head? Rheinhold asked this question some years back ... http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-04/msg00159.html ... but it looks like no one cold figure it out at the time. Thank for

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs, well at times I try to earn some money with lilypond. And sometimes I do. But it is far less than it needs to be, so that I don't need to work in other fields. But you can count me in, if you need someone ;) Best, Jan-Peter Am 16.04.2015 um 20:03 schrieb Urs Liska: Hi all, this is

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.04.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Urs, Basically I'd be interested in an estimate if there are practical limitations where one would be better off skipping a commission because LilyPond would be at its limit. I have yet to reach that point, and I’ve Lily-pound four stage

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs and all, I recently created a full score (and parts for instruments, solists and choir) for a new reconstruction of J.S.Bachs "Passionsmusik nach Marco", BWV 247. That was a bit more than 200 pages on B4 paper size. The setting is flute I+II, oboe I+II (with parts da caccia, d'amore), v

Re: (hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > I realize that I don't have a real idea about the size of our community, and > particularly regarding the availability of music typesetters who could offer > reliably continuous engraving services. This is something I’m interested in as someone who potentially wants to HIRE a Lilypon

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > Basically I'd be interested in an estimate if there are practical limitations > where one would be better off skipping a commission because LilyPond would be > at its limit. I have yet to reach that point, and I’ve Lily-pound four stage musicals, a chamber opera, 9-minute works for f

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Dear Urs, The largest score I have worked on is a full edition of Schubert's German Stabat Mater D. 383: https://gitlab.com/edition-kainhofer/0002_schubert_stabatmater_d383/ (PDF output files are at: https://gitlab.com/edition-kainhofer/0002_schubert_stabatmater_d383/tree/master/out ) The fu

(hypothetical) Availability of LilyPond engravers

2015-04-16 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, this is more or less hypothetical and nothing to be excited about. I realize that I don't have a real idea about the size of our community, and particularly regarding the availability of music typesetters who could offer reliably continuous engraving services. If I should be asked to

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread James Worlton
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > > > Am 16.04.2015 um 19:42 schrieb H. S. Teoh: > >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 07:43:38PM +0200, Urs Liska wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> this is not related to the discussion about the recently improved >>> processing speed, although it may sound

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs (et al.), > I'd like to have an idea how many people have already or are regularly > dealing with "big” scores I am regularly dealing with what I would consider “big” scores: for example, the Piano/Conductor scores of my musicals usually run over 100 pages. > maybe I'd like to know what

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.04.2015 um 19:42 schrieb H. S. Teoh: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 07:43:38PM +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Hey all, this is not related to the discussion about the recently improved processing speed, although it may sound related: I'd like to have an idea how many people have already or are regula

Re: Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 07:43:38PM +0200, Urs Liska wrote: > Hey all, > > this is not related to the discussion about the recently improved > processing speed, although it may sound related: > I'd like to have an idea how many people have already or are regularly > dealing with "big" scores, and m

Survey: Large scores

2015-04-16 Thread Urs Liska
Hey all, this is not related to the discussion about the recently improved processing speed, although it may sound related: I'd like to have an idea how many people have already or are regularly dealing with "big" scores, and maybe I'd like to know what might be the biggest score anyone has su

Re: Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread Phil Holmes
Sorry - no. I found setting the environment up on the Windows machine too difficult. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Urs Liska To: Phil Holmes ; Trevor Daniels ; Phil Holmes ; LilyPond User Group Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Windows perform

Re: Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread Cynthia Karl
> Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:28:35 +0100 > From: "Trevor Daniels" > To: "Phil Holmes" , "LilyPond User Group" > > Subject: Re: Windows performance > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Phil Holmes wrote Thursday, April 16, 2015

Re: Staff Spacing

2015-04-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Chris, > Thanks. That got rid of the programming errors, however it's still not > working properly. See attached screen shot. As I said, I didn’t completely code the snippet to match your original: you need to complete the code, according to the example. Best, Kieren. ___

Re: Staff Spacing

2015-04-16 Thread Chris Trahan
Hi Kieren, Thanks. That got rid of the programming errors, however it's still not working properly. See attached screen shot. I'm now on 2.19.18. Chris Lilypond-Break-Problem-2.jpg -- View this message in con

Re: Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread Urs Liska
Do you have access to the "Das trunkne Lied" score? I'd be interested in a comparison with this. Depending on the score configuration and maybe other programs' load this takes 5-8 minutes to compile on my machine. Urs Am 16. April 2015 16:43:03 MESZ, schrieb Phil Holmes : >- Original Messag

Re: Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread tisimst
Wow! This is really an incredible improvement! Way to go, everyone, for making such a phenomenal program that is also getting much, MUCH faster! - Abraham On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Paul Morris [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n174607...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > > On Apr 16, 2015, at 9:00 A

Re: Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread Paul Morris
> On Apr 16, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Phil Holmes wrote: > > A simple stress test: > > \repeat unfold 900 { > c''4 c' c c, > } I tried this simple test on my mac and got similar results! (Three runs for each version.) 2.18.2:41.1 40.2 41.5 2.19.16: 38.9 38.1 38.6 2.19.18: 22.9 22.8 23

Re: Re: Introducing some 'path' drawing tools

2015-04-16 Thread MING TSANG
drawing tools > <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Introducing-some-path-drawing-tools-tp174557p174568.html> > Sent from the User mailing list archive > <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html> at Nabble.com. > > ___

Re: Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" To: "Phil Holmes" ; "LilyPond User Group" Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Windows performance Phil Holmes wrote Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:00 PM The performance of LilyPond 2.19.18 on Windows is _much_ better than p

Re: Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes wrote Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:00 PM > The performance of LilyPond 2.19.18 on Windows is _much_ better than > previous versions. Some examples: > > A 26 page multi-score piece I've been working on: > 2.19.16: 114s to compile > 2.19.18: 52s ... [etc] That's remarkable. I can see

Re: Vertical positioning of temporary staves

2015-04-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:09 PM > >> Using the code below, I get the temporary staves vertically offset, as shown >> in the attached image. It appears that they are avoiding each others' >> non-existent horizontal extent. Is there any was of lining them up >> vertically? > T

Windows performance

2015-04-16 Thread Phil Holmes
The performance of LilyPond 2.19.18 on Windows is _much_ better than previous versions. Some examples: A 26 page multi-score piece I've been working on: 2.19.16: 114s to compile 2.19.18: 52s A 500 bar piece of old music I was working on: 2.19.18: 61.6s 2.19.16: 124.6s 2.19.6: 150.9s 2.18.2:

Re: Vertical positioning of temporary staves

2015-04-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Using the code below, I get the temporary staves vertically offset, as shown in the attached image. It appears that they are avoiding each others' non-existent horizontal extent. Is there any was of lining them up vertically? This is an old (well, less than 10 years, but still) favorite bug, see

Make plus sign of compoundMeter bolder

2015-04-16 Thread Calixte Faure
Hi everyone, When printing my score, the horizontal line of the plus sign (+) of a compoundMeter is almost as fat as the central line of the staff. So: is there a way to make the plus sign bolder? Thanks a lot! Regards, Calixte. ___ lilypond-user maili

Replacing TupletBracket with Slur

2015-04-16 Thread Urs Liska
Hi, I know this has been asked before, but the solutions I found don't seem to work for me. I've got this beautiful example with "slurred" tuplet brackets that you can see attached. But actually the file \omit-s the TupletBracket and writes an explicit slur instead. However, I'd like to m

Re: Stencils - first steps

2015-04-16 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 16.04.2015 um 10:35 schrieb Andrew Bernard: Paul, Thank you very much. Really excellent. Now that I can make additions to a notehead stencil, I find an issue with the stem being offset. What does one do to correct this? You have to set the stem-attachment like this: (ly:grob-set-property!

Re: Vertical positioning of temporary staves

2015-04-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil, you wrote Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:39 AM > I can't easily use stopStaff, etc., because the temporary staves are > autogenerated in my real life application. How would I keep the context > alive otherwise? By using spacer rests, but you'd still need to stop and start the staff to rem

Re: Vertical positioning of temporary staves

2015-04-16 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" To: "Phil Holmes" ; "LilyPond User Group" Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Vertical positioning of temporary staves Phil, you wrote Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:59 AM Using the code below, I get the temporary staves ver

Re: Vertical positioning of temporary staves

2015-04-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil, you wrote Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:59 AM > Using the code below, I get the temporary staves vertically offset, as shown > in the attached image. It appears that they are avoiding each others' > non-existent horizontal extent. Is there any was of lining them up > vertically? Only by keepi

Vertical positioning of temporary staves

2015-04-16 Thread Phil Holmes
Using the code below, I get the temporary staves vertically offset, as shown in the attached image. It appears that they are avoiding each others' non-existent horizontal extent. Is there any was of lining them up vertically? \new Staff = "Permanent" \relative c'' { c c c c << { c c c c } \new Sta

Re: Stencils - first steps

2015-04-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
Paul, Thank you very much. Really excellent. Now that I can make additions to a notehead stencil, I find an issue with the stem being offset. What does one do to correct this? The following snippet illustrates what I am trying to do, but the stems are offset - naturally. [I need some small fak

Re: Feedback on lilypondblog article

2015-04-16 Thread Noeck
> Maybe that would be a candidate for a pull request ;-) Yep. >> Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Introducing some 'path' drawing tools

2015-04-16 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Paul, 2015-04-16 6:00 GMT+02:00 Paul Morris : > Nice work Pierre! This is great. I look forward to taking a closer look. > Cheers, > -Paul > Please do! Your comments and advices are highly appreciated. Cheers, - Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing li

Re: Introducing some 'path' drawing tools

2015-04-16 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Marc, 2015-04-16 3:46 GMT+02:00 MarcM : > really nice work. > Thanks! > What "favorite editor as a cad" do you use ? > Here: Frescobaldi, zoom between 300 to 400. > I like the ⌂ Percussive guitar note heads example and the eyeglasses. It > looks i could use it create > finger patterns (