Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-08 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 07 août 2009 à 23:27 -0600, Andrew Hawryluk a écrit : > I can't speak for the future content of > http://lilypond.org/~graham/Text-input.html, but I will be working on > the next version of the essay (once the directory structure for images > in Documentation/ stabilizes), and it should

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-07 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Till Paala wrote: > Hello Graham and John > > Graham Percival schrieb: > > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:53:51PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > > > Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 05:20 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > > Eh? Why on earth would the Examples change for diff

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-07 Thread Till Paala
Francisco Vila schrieb: 2009/8/4 Graham Percival : On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:53:51PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: I was thinking on annotated SVG examples, which should be created for the essay BTW -- I believed Till had taken this over a while ago, but I never got news about this.

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-07 Thread Till Paala
Hello Graham and John Graham Percival schrieb: On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:53:51PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 05:20 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : Eh? Why on earth would the Examples change for different languages? IIRC, we currently have French lyrics, It

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/8/4 Graham Percival : > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:53:51PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: >> I was thinking on annotated SVG examples, which should be created for >> the essay BTW -- I believed Till had taken this over a while ago, but I >> never got news about this. > > Do you mean the annotate

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 07:30 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > So, I have heartburn about regressions on the stable branch as indicated by > failure to pass the regtest. But I have no heartburn about "regressions" > that mean a complicated example that uses tweaks doesn't look right any > more. I

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 06:58 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > Hmm, I suppose this would screw up the cross-references. Not at all, cross-references are defined in macros.itexi. > I guess we'll just expect users > looking at a pdf tarball to open up "general.pdf" first. We don't care so much

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:00:40PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 01:12 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Fair enough -- but could you add a post-build rule to rename > > general.info/pdf/html to lilypond.info/pdf/html ? > > Not worth the effort. DIY if you like. Hmm, I

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:53:51PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 05:20 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > But we don't require them for building the website on > > lilypond.org. > > Inkscape *is* required for building current web site from web branch > sources. But it's

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/4/09 4:00 AM, "John Mandereau" wrote: > Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 01:12 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > > Yes, even power users could run lilypond and output-distance on entire > input file directories and detect changes in formatting. This is a goal > for 2.14, or more reasonnably

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 05:20 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > ... at the very minimum, we could omit the news on the home page > (that would require one macro/conditional thingie in > general.texi), I want to restore and fix the RSS feed, so I merge news-* into a single source file for import i

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:55:05PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le lundi 03 août 2009 à 05:51 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > I thought the website was going to be built from the stable > > branch? If we're doing that, then let's delete the web branches. > > This just made me come to mind

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 03 août 2009 à 05:51 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > I thought the website was going to be built from the stable > branch? If we're doing that, then let's delete the web branches. This just made me come to mind that I'm for not including News in generated offline docball: if we did, i

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 01:12 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > Yes, but what if somebody reads the LM, looks at the source, then > accuses us of lying when we claimed "no tweaks were used"? I > wouldn't blame that person at all! Of course, I rather meant lilyond-book trickery, which we probably

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:51:55PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le lundi 03 août 2009 à 05:51 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Well, it depends how you define "tweak". In the LM, we lean > > pretty heavily on "tweak = \override and \set" (plus others). > > Some of those examples definitely *

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-03 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 03 août 2009 à 05:51 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > Well, it depends how you define "tweak". In the LM, we lean > pretty heavily on "tweak = \override and \set" (plus others). > Some of those examples definitely *do* use tweaks! > > I'd rather keep the wiggle room and just say "look a

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 02:12:54PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le lundi 03 août 2009 à 04:19 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > "generated manually" meaning "run make generate-examlpes once a > > year or so". > > OTOH we could be a bit prouder and say on the examples pages something > like "T

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-03 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 03 août 2009 à 04:19 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:16:15PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > > Le lundi 27 juillet 2009 à 18:13 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > > - nobody edits texinfo files in this repo. They are imported > > > via scripts/update-impor

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:16:15PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le lundi 27 juillet 2009 à 18:13 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > - nobody edits texinfo files in this repo. They are imported > > via scripts/update-imported.sh from the > > I have one first concern with update-imported.sh:

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-08-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 27 juillet 2009 à 18:13 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > Details are in the ADD-TO-CG.txt file, but as a brief summary: > - nobody edits texinfo files in this repo. They are imported > via scripts/update-imported.sh from the > unstable/current/head/master lilypond branch. > (curre

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-07-31 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 27 juillet 2009 à 18:13 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > My apologies for being unclear in the past. (and my advanced > apologies for being unclear in the future, although hopefully I > won't be unclear about this specific issue) Thanks, I've been preparing a detailed reply but have be

Re: the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-07-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 06:13:12PM -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > My apologies for being unclear in the past. (and my advanced > apologies for being unclear in the future, although hopefully I > won't be unclear about this specific issue) > > The web-gop branch now contains lilypond-web-git-repo

the "separate, but integrated" website proposal

2009-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
My apologies for being unclear in the past. (and my advanced apologies for being unclear in the future, although hopefully I won't be unclear about this specific issue) The web-gop branch now contains lilypond-web-git-repo/. This is my pretend/proposed separate repo for a "staging area" of web s