Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-09-07 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/9/7 Michael Käppler : > Hi all, > Hmm... was there any progress since July on this topic? > I'd like to year if there's anything new... ;) Not really, I'm afraid. The reason is that I've been abroad for a few months and couldn't really work on this for the last couple of weeks. I won't have a

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-09-06 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi all, Hmm... was there any progress since July on this topic? I'd like to year if there's anything new... ;) Cheers, Michael ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Additionately, maybe it would be nice to increase the >relative< >> thickness of the stroke on smaller staff sizes as it's described in >> NR 4.2.1 for the Feta font. Otherwise the line will look too thin >> at smaller staff sizes, I think. > > Ah, interesting point. I have no clue, though, h

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> For Mozart, the stroke should perhaps a bit shorter -- maybe two >> different symbols? > > Attached are two samples for long and short strokes with varying > width. The long strokes have height = staff_space, the shorter ones > height = 0.8*staff_space (is that a reasonable choice?). Each fil

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-27 Thread Michael Käppler
Me too, #4 or #5. But I think the long stroke could be longer, maybe 1.2*staff_space or so? Like in the attached file? In this case, I'm inclined to favour #5 (or maybe even #6), but I'm only judging this based on the appearance on the screen because I don't have a good printer at hand. T

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-27 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/27 Michael Käppler : > Additionately, maybe it would be nice to increase the >relative< > thickness of the stroke on smaller staff sizes as it's described in NR > 4.2.1 for the Feta font. Otherwise the line will look too thin at > smaller staff sizes, I think. Ah, interesting point. I have

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-27 Thread Michael Käppler
Additionately, maybe it would be nice to increase the >relative< thickness of the stroke on smaller staff sizes as it's described in NR 4.2.1 for the Feta font. Otherwise the line will look too thin at smaller staff sizes, I think. Regards, Michael

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-27 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/27 Michael Käppler : > >> Attached are two samples for long and short strokes with varying >> width. The long strokes have height = staff_space, the shorter ones >> height = 0.8*staff_space (is that a reasonable choice?). Each file >> contains strokes of each type with ten different widths,

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-27 Thread Michael Käppler
Attached are two samples for long and short strokes with varying width. The long strokes have height = staff_space, the shorter ones height = 0.8*staff_space (is that a reasonable choice?). Each file contains strokes of each type with ten different widths, namely i*0.05*staff_space, for i=1,..,1

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-27 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/27 Werner LEMBERG : > >> - What is a good name for the new articulation? > > I suggest `vertical stroke'.  At least this seems to be the name > referred to in the literature for the staccato-like symbol which > Mozart uses. OK, considering the many different meanings this symbol can apparen

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-27 Thread Michael Käppler
Valentin Villenave wrote: For example, if I have understood this correctly, your snippet can't scale the font-size according to global-staff-size at this moment. Yes it can. Sorry... I should have looked more carefully at this. Also it would be nice if LilyPond could determine the rig

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> - What is a good name for the new articulation? I suggest `vertical stroke'. At least this seems to be the name referred to in the literature for the staccato-like symbol which Mozart uses. > - What should be the precise shape (width/height ratio)? Currently I > use height = 1 staff_space and

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Mark Polesky
Maximilian Albert wrote: > OK, thanks. Any suggestions for a name? I can't think of a good one > which concisely captures the glyph's meaning (mainly because I don't > know what that meaning is :-P). Michael Käppler, in his original post for this thread suggested that it implies some extra "weigh

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/26 Carl Sorensen : > I think that Werner was saying the feature request is to add a glyph to the > font.  But while we wait for that to happen, to add a drawn rectangle is a > definite benefit. I was talking about adding a glyph to the font, too. But the glyph is basically just a rectangle

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/26/09 1:33 AM, "Maximilian Albert" wrote: > 2009/7/25 Werner LEMBERG : > >> I don't object to add it to the font, so please add it as a feature >> request. I think that Werner was saying the feature request is to add a glyph to the font. But while we wait for that to happen, to add a d

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/25 Werner LEMBERG : > I don't object to add it to the font, so please add it as a feature > request. Given that the shape is basically only a rectangle, this should be easy to do. I've got a patch more or less ready but there are a couple of small questions: - What is a good name for the

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-25 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/24 Werner LEMBERG : > I don't object to add it to the font, so please add it as a feature > request. Here goes: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=822 Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Thanks for adding this to the snippets. Maybe I'll post a better >> explanation later. Anyway, wouldn't it be better to add this to the >> font? > > For a single vertical line, I suspect this would be overkill – > Unless we officialy include it alongside the other articulation > marks. Werner

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/24 Maximilian Albert : > It's not correct that articulations are always centered with the note head. > See > >  http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=218 > > and the examples attached there. This is precisely what > toward-stem-shift was introduced for. :-) Indeed (i didn't re

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-24 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/24 Valentin Villenave : >> Another point is the horizontal position: If the line is placed above the >> stem, it seems better to me to have both in one horizontal position (not >> centered above the NoteHead), though I can't recognize any clear conventions >> for it up to now. > > I think t

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/23 Michael Käppler : > Thanks for adding this to the snippets. Maybe I'll post a better explanation > later. Anyway, wouldn't it be better to add this to the font? For a single vertical line, I suspect this would be overkill – Unless we officialy include it alongside the other articulation

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-24 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi Valentin, Greetings, here is how to achieve what you're looking for (it has been added to the documentation snippets as well, since this notation is indeed common): http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=620 Thanks for adding this to the snippets. Maybe I'll post a better explanation later. A

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-23 Thread Mark Polesky
Valentin Villenave wrote: > Greetings, > here is how to achieve what you're looking for (it has been added to > the documentation snippets as well, since this notation is indeed > common): > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=620 Wow, an hour and a half from request to snippet. Nice work. I al

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-23 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/23 Michael Käppler : > after transcribing some baroque vocal and instrumental pieces I noticed that > one articulation sign is used very often, but not provided by lilypond. It > looks simply like a line, vertically placed above the note head. Greetings, here is how to achieve what you're l

Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-23 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi all, after transcribing some baroque vocal and instrumental pieces I noticed that one articulation sign is used very often, but not provided by lilypond. It looks simply like a line, vertically placed above the note head. One could confuse it with the \staccatissimo symbol, which looks more