Re: extracting markup texts for braille

2024-04-01 Thread Maurits Lamers via Discussions on LilyPond development
Hi Aaron, That is a great suggestion. Thanks a lot! I have been playing around with it and noticed that in order to keep the order of the generated braille identical to the Lilypond code, I would need to also override the top-level-score-handler, and possibly others to keep track of the

Re: extracting markup texts for braille

2024-04-01 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2024-04-01 3:47 am, Maurits Lamers via Discussions on LilyPond development wrote: Hey all, I also asked this question on the lilypond-user mailing list, but I gather it is a rather complex question for that list. As you might be aware, I have been working on a braille extension for

extracting markup texts for braille

2024-04-01 Thread Maurits Lamers via Discussions on LilyPond development
Hey all, I also asked this question on the lilypond-user mailing list, but I gather it is a rather complex question for that list. As you might be aware, I have been working on a braille extension for Lilypond which (based on the music info extraction example) renders Lilypond scores into

Fwd: DAISY Music Braille Project: Webinar invitation - Introduction to music Braille transcription using the Sao Mai Braille software

2022-03-03 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello folks, Here is a first presentation of one of the two current projects aiming at a powerful tool for Braille music writing. Sao Mai is a foundation in Vietnam, the other project is being done by the MuseScore team. JM > Début du message réexpédié : > > De: Sarah Morle

Re: Braille

2017-02-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I will try to get my prototype together and integrated with Lilypond > over the next couple of weeks and check it into my branch. It's > going to be pretty rough but at least functional. Thank you very much in advance for your efforts! Werner

Re: Braille

2017-02-13 Thread littlesincanada
Hi, OK, not many comments but I guess since there is no code, there's nothing to comment on :) I will try to get my prototype together and integrated with Lilypond over the next couple of weeks and check it into my branch. It's going to be pretty rough but at least functional. Cheers, Ralph

Re: Braille

2017-02-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
27;s kinda one of my bucket list items so to speak. Understood. Well, we should then probably remove Braille support from the GSoC list. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Braille

2017-02-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 8. Februar 2017 07:26:16 MEZ schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > >> I have resurrected my Braille music output project, which was >> originated around 12 years ago [...] I've been beavering away it it >> for the past few months and I have a rough prototype, probably sor

Re: Braille

2017-02-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I have resurrected my Braille music output project, which was > originated around 12 years ago [...] I've been beavering away it it > for the past few months and I have a rough prototype, probably sort > of a proof of concept really, to fully explore the issues. [...] Gre

Braille

2017-02-07 Thread Ralph Little
Hi,I see that there is some renewed activity in Lilypond dev and that's always nice to see.I would like to drop something entirely different into the pot. I have resurrected my Braille music output project, which was originated around 12 years ago and has been picked up and dropped at va

Re: Lilypond to Braille

2013-11-16 Thread Maurits Lamers
Hi Keith, my reactions are between the lines > Maurits Lamers weidestraat.nl> writes: > >> I might be wrong, but I don't think creating a separate Braille context > will work, as it would require the >> same music to be defined twice, one as normal music and o

Re: Lilypond to Braille

2013-11-14 Thread Keith OHara
Maurits Lamers weidestraat.nl> writes: > I might be wrong, but I don't think creating a separate Braille context will work, as it would require the > same music to be defined twice, one as normal music and one as Braille. I do not know what you mean by 'defining' the

Re: Lilypond to Braille

2013-11-12 Thread Maurits Lamers
Hi Keith, Thanks for answering! After reading your reply I became aware that I didn't mention that the way of triggering the Braille output should be similar to the way midi export is done, for example in the form of a \braille tag. I might be wrong, but I don't think creating

Re: Lilypond to Braille

2013-11-11 Thread Keith OHara
Maurits Lamers weidestraat.nl> writes: > This is a new initiative to bring Braille music output to Lilypond. Maybe let LilyPond read the input, iterate through the timing, and prepare the music streams as she does to send to each context such as 'Staff'. You might make

Lilypond to Braille

2013-11-09 Thread Maurits Lamers
Hi all, This subject has already been discussed a quite a few times on this list and other lists in the past. This is a new initiative to bring Braille music output to Lilypond. I have been asked by a few Dutch organisations for people with a visual handicap to look into how much work it

Re: XML export to facilitate braille music

2008-11-22 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/11/22 Ralph Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I notice from recent times that a few people are interested in MusicXML > output from Lilypond. Hi Ralph, I have added your contribution to the tracker's page on http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=665 I think helping the FreeDots' p

XML export to facilitate braille music

2008-11-22 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, I notice from recent times that a few people are interested in MusicXML output from Lilypond. I have been approached by a programmer who is interested in helping me with my efforts to produce braille output by going the XML approach. I think this would be easier than trying to get the

Braille output support

2005-12-06 Thread Ralph Little
Hi All, I have had a request to re-animate my efforts to include some kind of Braille support. In the past I have looked into adding some kind of typesetting features, in the way of special engravers, and I got quite a way to doing this, to the extent of actually rendering simple Braille

Re: LilyPond and Braille Music output

2004-12-15 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[I'm CC-ing the mailing list since that's where there are more people with useful insights] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There have been some attempts at Braille output, but I haven't seen > > anythi

Braille multi-voices again, another idea

2004-06-02 Thread Ralph Little
--O| || || So, the first bar is monophonic. The Braille is just attached to the note events in the normal way The polypohonic voices in the second bar have the notes attached to each moment to wh

Staff spacing, Lyrics and Braille

2004-04-01 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, I have been experimenting with system spacing and I have noticed some curious effects. In the pursuit of completing my Braille stuff, I have been experimenting with spacing where there is no Staff context. For example, just lyrics, or Braille. I expected the Braille/Lyrics to close up

RE: Me and Braille music again

2004-02-24 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, OK, Sounds sensible, I'll go along with all of that. Yoodaboss! > > No, who would do that? If it is working, we will ship and document the > BrailleStaff in the standard distribution. > We have customers that say that. "Don't worry about it, we'd never do that!" I'd better get on with i

RE: Me and Braille music again

2004-02-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > do them as a font? Isn't it easier to do a markup, eg. > > > > \markup { \braile #"..o.o.o" } > > > > which takes the pattern of . and o and puts the dots in the > > right place? > > > > That&#x

RE: Me and Braille music again

2004-02-24 Thread Ralph Little
Hi Han-Wen, Reponses below: > -Original Message- > From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 February 2004 11:12 > > > > So, I'm pretty well done doing a Braille font for Lily, that's no > > problem. > > Huh? I thought

Me and Braille music again

2004-02-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yippee > I've got some spare time. Good! > So, I'm pretty well done doing a Braille font for Lily, that's no > problem. Huh? I thought braille is are just a grid of six dots. Why would you do them as a font? Isn't it easie

Re: Me and Braille music again

2004-02-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I'd recommend to look at the support for figured bass or chord names for some inspiration. It seems that you want to typeset the Braille in a separate context which makes it easy to place it above or below and existing Staff or whatever other context. /Mats Ralph Little wrote: Yippee

Me and Braille music again

2004-02-24 Thread Ralph Little
Yippee I've got some spare time. So, I'm pretty well done doing a Braille font for Lily, that's no problem. How I've decided to tackle it is to design a new engraver which will "hang" the Braille text across the top of the current context items (e.g. Staff

Braille output strategy

2003-02-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > My scheme isn't really up to much and the kind of code required to add > Braille output will be more comfortable in C++ in my view. > Modifying the grammar is trivial to add a \braille block. Where I take it > from this is a bit of a mystery... Ther

Braille output strategy

2003-01-31 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, I have been looking through the code performer/midi code to see if it would be appropriate to link the Braille output into here. It all seems very midi oriented. Can anybody advise me, before I get any further into it, as to whether or not it will be worth trying to shoehorn some code into

[Fwd: Re: Braille Lilypond]

2002-12-26 Thread Olivier Guéry
mme from a shop name eurobraille ( http://www.eurobraille.com sorry it's in french) And he got a "scriba", whith is the most interface between computeur and him, with this, he can read and write in all the editor or world prossesor. But he explain me that there's a diffrent

RE: Braille & Lime

2002-12-23 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, Sorry, I don't have much contact with the internet while at home. Same goes for Christmas, but I have plenty of printed out homework. You'll also have to bear with me 'cos I know nowt about Braille or Braille music, although I'm learning fast. It is looking like simultaneo

RE: Braille & Lime

2002-12-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Spacing is not significant to the extent that it is in ordinary notation, > and the music is encoded into simply a list of Braille symbols, as spacing > is a lot less significant to a blind reader. OK, but how is polyphonic music handled? -- Han-Wen

RE: Braille & Lime

2002-12-20 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, I gave it some thought last night and I tend to agree. It might also require a lot less time to work a \midi style extension (e.g. \braille{}) to drop out the braille version of the music, although the ability to mix normal and braille scoring might be desirable albeit a lot more complicated

Braille & Lime

2002-12-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Otherwise, it seems to me that with the aid of a suitable font, another > engraver might do the trick for this. > The Braille Music is encoded as a Braille character stream not too disimilar > to standard music notation so that it could be another outpu

Braille & Lime

2002-12-19 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, I have had a look at Braille Music and *GOSH* it's a bit complicated! However, undaunted I'm gonna give it a go! There is plenty of documentation on it out there on the Internet. I have a few questions which you guys might be able to help with: Firstly, does anybody know if it is p

RE: Braille lilypond

2002-12-19 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, I guess it depends on what form of output this chap requires. He might require either standard PS-style output using some funny braille font, or a special output as you suggest. I will study the web links in more depth and maybe contact the guy and see how the land lies and I'll let y

Re: Braille lilypond

2002-12-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Probably, Han-Wen or Jan should answer this qustion, but I give it a first try. Since the design of Lilypond is very modular, it should be easy to add a new output format. Most of the current backends are implemented in Scheme, so that's probably where you should look. The recently introduced XML o

Braille lilypond

2002-12-19 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, I'd be quite interested in contributing to this. I have not developed on Lily before, but I have experience mostly with C, but also more recently with C++ and am quite keen. ;) Anybody got a good idea as to where would be a good place to start? Regards, Ralph -- Our communications w

Braille output

2002-12-18 Thread Olivier Guéry
only thing missing is the possibility for lilypond to produce braille output, my friend will be able to print the score we produce. I foud other program on the net but they are graphical tools and he can't use them, this programs produce score that are realy less readable than those l