Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread Paul
On 11/25/2016 06:13 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: - Investigate why lilypond is a lot slower when using guile-2.0 This is the current main problem, I'd say. From what I've read, the guile 2.0 interpreter is simply slower than the guile 1.8 interpreter (with the trade-off being that 2.0 has a com

Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread Thomas Morley
atches are a moving target we should choose > one of these two alternative approaches: > > 1. Use only one branch, but warn users that the branch might be > rebased, this would mean that "git pull --force" might be needed on > the client side. > > 2. Use versio

Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread Knut Petersen
Hi Antonio! TBH I didn't try to compile lilypond using guile-1.8 with my patches applied, I can give it a go in the next days. I added your patches in numerical order as single commits to my local branch on top of current master and started a "git bisect run" process to investigate which of yo

Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 25.11.2016 um 23:19 schrieb Antonio Ospite: stuff to simplify the workflow, attracting more people. It's still tedious to add Antonios patches. How about creating a public branch? I could do this in the evening (if I remember the syntax) What do you think? Shouldn't most of them be able to

Re: lilypond, guile 2 and OpenSuSE

2016-11-25 Thread Antonio Ospite
On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 13:29:39 +0100 Knut Petersen wrote: > Hi everybody! > > Status of guile on OpenSuSE distributions: > == [...] > Building current lilypond master + the 15 patches from > ao2.it/tmp/lilypond-guile2/patches_2016-11-22 using guile 2 on > Tu

Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread Antonio Ospite
quot; might be needed on the client side. 2. Use versioned branches, this means that when the need for a rebase arises the result of the rebasing goes into a new branch, e.g.: guile-2.0-v2 or guile-2.0-20161125 In the mean time I started to write a TODO list of the

Re: instructions to create a Linux container (as replacement to LilyDev for Linux users)

2016-11-25 Thread Federico Bruni
I've just seen an error in my first email. This is correct: debootstrap --arch=amd64 stretch DebianStretch http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ sudo systemd-nspawn -D DebianStretch of course you can replace DebianStretch with whatever directory name you prefer ___

Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread karl
Jan-Peter Voigt: > Am 24.11.2016 um 16:10 schrieb Antonio Ospite: > > And about the choice between guile 1.8 or 2.0.12/13, it should be > > possible to have both guile-1.8 and guile-2.0 packages installed in the > > same image and then let lilypond choose which one to pick up at > > configure-time,

instructions to create a Linux container (as replacement to LilyDev for Linux users)

2016-11-25 Thread Federico Bruni
Hi all For those who want to contribute to the guile-2 migration, I suggest you use a Linux container, because I'm having troubles with building a new LilyDev image and I don't know when I'll find a solution. I quickly wrote a brief tutorial to set up a Debian or Fedora guest within a system

lilypond, guile 2 and OpenSuSE

2016-11-25 Thread Knut Petersen
Hi everybody! Status of guile on OpenSuSE distributions: == OpenSuSE Tumbleweed includes guile 2.0.13 since 2016-10-15. OpenSuSE Leap does include guile 2, but the version is too old to support lilypond. Manual installation of the guile 2 version from Tum

Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Thomas Morley writes: > >> 2016-11-24 16:10 GMT+01:00 Antonio Ospite : >>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 14:03:32 +0100 >>> Federico Bruni wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> with the container and/or LilyDev for guile2 we are going to have some >> stuff to simplify the workflow, att

Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2016-11-24 16:10 GMT+01:00 Antonio Ospite : >> On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 14:03:32 +0100 >> Federico Bruni wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > with the container and/or LilyDev for guile2 we are going to have some > stuff to simplify the workflow, attracting more people. > It's still ted

Re: guile-2.0 and debian

2016-11-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-11-24 16:10 GMT+01:00 Antonio Ospite : > On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 14:03:32 +0100 > Federico Bruni wrote: Hi all, with the container and/or LilyDev for guile2 we are going to have some stuff to simplify the workflow, attracting more people. It's still tedious to add Antonios patches. How about