Using Linux-Libc-Headers-2.6.x.y + latest kernel version (e.g. 2. 6.14.x)

2005-11-30 Thread Feldmeier Bernd
Hello guys, I created a LFS 6.1.1 test system. But is there a problem if I use the latest kernel version ? Because Using Linux-Libc-Headers version and latest kernel version differs? regards Bernd -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/fa

Re: Using Linux-Libc-Headers-2.6.x.y + latest kernel version (e.g. 2. 6.14.x)

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Feldmeier Bernd wrote: But is there a problem if I use the latest kernel version ? Because Using Linux-Libc-Headers version and latest kernel version differs? No, there aren't any problems that *I* know of, and a recent discussion on this list suggests that others haven't had any problems ei

Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Andrew Benton wrote: # Assign udevsend to get hotplug events. udevsend can manage the whole # hotplug handling by taking over the kernel spawned event process echo "/dev/null" > /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug Hmm, I simply changed this to "> /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug"

Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jim Gifford wrote: I'm getting this in cross-lfs as soon as it gets out. Like I said when you mentioned this last week, Jim, I'd prefer LFS to get this feature first, after all necessary discussions have taken place. I realise that you've been talking this through with Kay, but that's all

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Tushar Teredesai wrote: I found too many (for my comfort) false positives and false negatives with this method. Presumably because you were doing other things with the computer at the same time? When run inside chroot in chapter 6, unless you're directly fiddling with files (or installing m

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Chris Staub wrote: It would really be nice if the book had more documentation on the book itself - how it got to be the way it is (besides having to search the mailing lists). Ah, yes, "The Design and Evolution of LFS" (with apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup). :-) Matt. -- http://linuxfromscra

Re: Experimental ELFS (Was: Re: More control...hint integration discussion)

2005-11-30 Thread Matt Darcy
Ag Hatzim wrote: Jeremy Huntwork([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:32:59PM -0500: Snip I think we really should look at including it sometime in the future, whether it starts with a hint or a separate branch or whatever. Ok lets give an end to these eternals debates (although i

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Matt Darcy
Ah, yes. The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything LFS. I personally think it's more than just building a minimal working system, and I think there are others that will agree with me there. That should be shown by the fact that there are and continue to be such packages as

Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans

2005-11-30 Thread Andrew Benton
Matthew Burgess wrote: # Populate /dev with all the devices that are already available, # and save it's status so we can report failures. udevstart || failed=1 According to the latest (076) version I don't think the above invocation of `udevstart' is required anymore.

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Kev Buckley
> > > > > > Ah, yes. The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything LFS. > > I personally think it's more than just building a minimal working > > system, and I think there are others that will agree with me there. That > > should be shown by the fact that there are and continue t

AW: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Feldmeier Bernd
Hi guys, I think the most elegant way for a fake root is really the unionfs way. You don't need to change any line in LFS doc, only a few words and requirements at the beginning. This should be discussed. regards - Bernd -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Matt Darcy
Kev Buckley wrote: Ah, yes. The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything LFS. I personally think it's more than just building a minimal working system, and I think there are others that will agree with me there. That should be shown by the fact that there are and continue to be

udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Andrew Benton wrote: > Matthew Burgess wrote: > >>> # Populate /dev with all the devices that are already available, >>> # and save it's status so we can report failures. >>> udevstart || failed=1 >> >> >> According to the latest (076) version I don't think the above >> i

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Matthew Burgess wrote: 3. mkdir /lib/udev/devices && ln -s /proc/self/fd /lib/udev/devices/fd && ln -s /proc/self/fd/0 /lib/udev/devices/stdin && ln -s /proc/self/fd/1 /lib/udev/devices/stdout && ln -s /proc/self/fd/2 /lib/udev/devices/stderr && ln -s /proc/kcore /lib/udev/devices

LiveCD Version ppc-6.2-pre1 Released

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
A new ppc LiveCD has been released! Due to the limited number of machines at our disposal, development of the ppc LiveCD moves a little slower than the x86 versions. However, we have merged the once separate x86 and ppc build scripts into one, allowing general development of the ppc CD to move

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Here's a patch that fixes up the bootscript to work with udev-076 the way I think upstream intend it to be used. In addition to that patch you'll need to run: mkdir -p /lib/udev/devices && ln -sf /proc/self/fd /lib/udev/devices/fd && ln -sf /proc/self/fd/0 /lib/udev/devices/stdin && ln -sf /pr

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Gifford
Matt, I have the package that Kay put together at http://ftp.jg555.com/udev. This has mostly been converted to LFS except for 2 files. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Using Linux-Libc-Headers-2.6.x.y + latest kernel version (e.g. 2. 6.14.x)

2005-11-30 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 11/30/05, Feldmeier Bernd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello guys, > > I created a LFS 6.1.1 test system. > But is there a problem if I use > the latest kernel version ? > > Because Using Linux-Libc-Headers version > and latest kernel version differs? It's perfectly fine as far as I know. Ev

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jim Gifford wrote: > Matt, >I have the package that Kay put together at > http://ftp.jg555.com/udev. This has mostly been converted to LFS except > for 2 files. > Just a quick look, but the Makefile has: install: device_dirs device_link rules scripts boot .PHONY: all install device_dirs devi

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matt Darcy wrote: > >> >> Ah, yes. The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything >> LFS. I personally think it's more than just building a minimal working >> system, and I think there are others that will agree with me there. >> That should be shown by the fact that there are and cont

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Gifford
Thanx Bruce, got it fixed. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Andrew Benton
Matthew Burgess wrote: mkdir -p /lib/udev/devices && ln -sf /proc/self/fd /lib/udev/devices/fd && ln -sf /proc/self/fd/0 /lib/udev/devices/stdin && ln -sf /proc/self/fd/1 /lib/udev/devices/stdout && ln -sf /proc/self/fd/2 /lib/udev/devices/stderr && ln -sf /proc/kcore /lib/udev/devices/core && m

Re: Re: virtual memory exhausted (uclibc and linux-2.6.14)

2005-11-30 Thread Yerp
> > 3) First I recompiled Xorg 7-RC2 modular on a non-ssp system (the old > > xorg6.8.2 monolith loves to take forevor and crash all of the time). Which > > then returned the following error when I call startx: "Cannot Call Assert". > > So, I tried again, this time without using PIC patches, hacks

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 11/30/05, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tushar Teredesai wrote: > > > I found too many (for my comfort) false positives and false negatives > > with this method. > > Presumably because you were doing other things with the computer at the > same time? When run inside chroot in cha

Re: Re: virtual memory exhausted (uclibc and linux-2.6.14)

2005-11-30 Thread Yerp
> I am no expert, but perhaps the library you are linking with at compile > time is different from the one that is loaded at runtime? > > Bruce > That could be it indeed! I am doing one thing that others probably aren't. I trashed the /usr/bin/X11R6 directories and made Xorg's home(or prefix)

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Andrew Benton wrote: So, we used to use the make_extra_nodes function to create these links and now we create them in /lib/dev/udev and get the bootscript to copy them into /dev? Aren't you just repainting the bikeshed? Works for me. Nice bikeshed. But the difference is, this is the colour

why not include Linux-Libc-Headers 2.6.12 + glibc 2.35 in LFS 6.1.1

2005-11-30 Thread Bernd Feldmeier
Hi, maybe you can tell me why we don't include this versions in LFS 6.1.1 like Greg do it?? They are stable and so there should not be any problems?? PS: I think we are too conservative about that. Please tell me ... regards -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: htt

Re: why not include Linux-Libc-Headers 2.6.12 + glibc 2.35 in LFS 6.1.1

2005-11-30 Thread Chris Staub
Bernd Feldmeier wrote: Hi, maybe you can tell me why we don't include this versions in LFS 6.1.1 like Greg do it?? They are stable and so there should not be any problems?? PS: I think we are too conservative about that. Please tell me ... regards --http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/lis

Re: why not include Linux-Libc-Headers 2.6.12 + glibc 2.35 in LFS 6.1.1

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Bernd Feldmeier wrote: Hi, maybe you can tell me why we don't include this versions in LFS 6.1.1 like Greg do it?? If you'd have been following the list since the time when we decided on making a LFS-6.1.1 release, you'd have known that its only goal was to fix the known bugs with LFS-6.1

Re: why not include Linux-Libc-Headers 2.6.12 + glibc 2.35 in LFS 6.1.1

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Matthew Burgess wrote: If you'd have been following the list since the time when we decided on making a LFS-6.1.1 release, you'd have known that its only goal was to fix the known bugs with LFS-6.1 Oh yeah, and LFS-6.1.1 was planned to be achieved under a very short release schedule, due to

Re: :: why not include Linux-Libc-Headers 2.6.12 + glibc 2.35 in LFS 6.1.1

2005-11-30 Thread Bernd Feldmeier
Hi to all, sorry but as I know this release is bug fix release, but this stuff has nothing to do with the of any glibc/kernel stable versions. I think we should upgrade to these stable versions before releasing ... so we should use latest versions e.g. binutils 2.16.1 + kernel 2.6.14.x + glibc

Re: :: why not include Linux-Libc-Headers 2.6.12 + glibc 2.35 in LFS 6.1.1

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Bernd Feldmeier wrote: so we should use latest versions e.g. binutils 2.16.1 + kernel 2.6.14.x + glibc 2.3.5 ... Like I said before, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/ has those upgrades already in place, except for linux-2.6.14.3, which should make it in some time this w

Re: LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Thomas Reitelbach
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 22:16, Matthew Burgess wrote: > The Linux From Scratch community is pleased to announce the release of > LFS 6.1.1. This release includes fixes for all known errata since > LFS-6.1 was released 4 months ago. > > You can read the book online at > http://www.linuxfromscr

Re: LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Archaic
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:34:09PM +0100, Thomas Reitelbach wrote: > > My general.ent from LFS/branches/6.1.1/BOOK still says: Use the tag, not the branch. -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your operating system? Hardened Linux From Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/h

Re: LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Archaic wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:34:09PM +0100, Thomas Reitelbach wrote: My general.ent from LFS/branches/6.1.1/BOOK still says: Use the tag, not the branch. Which begs a question...we can get rid of the branch now, right? And doing so would prevent confusion, right? i.e. branc

Re: LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Thomas Reitelbach wrote: My general.ent from LFS/branches/6.1.1/BOOK still says: Is this my failure or did someone forget to update the file general.ent? I'm using anonymous svn, probably it's a few hours behind? Unless you checked out the repository new you will have an incorrect version.

Re: LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Unless you checked out the repository new you will have an incorrect version. A new tagged branch was created to house the released 6.1.1 A tagged branch eh? That's a new one on me :-) -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscra

Re: LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Archaic
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:35:47PM +, Matthew Burgess wrote: > > Which begs a question...we can get rid of the branch now, right? Correct. If the branch is needed for some as yet unexpected 6.1.2 branch, then it's existence in the current revision is still of no value. Just update trunk/OLD_B

LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
The Linux From Scratch community is pleased to announce the release of LFS 6.1.1. This release includes fixes for all known errata since LFS-6.1 was released 4 months ago. You can read the book online at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.1.1/ or download it from http://www.linuxfroms

Re: LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Thomas Reitelbach
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 22:33, Archaic wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:34:09PM +0100, Thomas Reitelbach wrote: > > My general.ent from LFS/branches/6.1.1/BOOK still says: > > Use the tag, not the branch. Ah... svn switch svn://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/tags/6.1.1/BOOK/ is my friend

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Given the fairly minor changes required to get this all working, I'm not > sure it's worth setting a branch up for this stuff. This, of course, > assumes I've not missed something! Nothing major, but: > - # Now, create some required files/directories/devices

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

2005-11-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Bryan Kadzban wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: + cp -R /lib/udev/devices/* /dev Shouldn't that be "cp -a", to preserve UID/GID/permissions? Good catch, thanks! -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the a

Re: :: why not include Linux-Libc-Headers 2.6.12 + glibc 2.35 in LFS 6.1.1

2005-11-30 Thread Matt Darcy
Bernd Feldmeier wrote: Hi to all, sorry but as I know this release is bug fix release, but this stuff has nothing to do with the of any glibc/kernel stable versions. I think we should upgrade to these stable versions before releasing ... so we should use latest versions e.g. binutils 2.16.1 +

Re: LFS-6.1.1 released

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matthew Burgess wrote: A tagged branch eh? That's a new one on me :-) Sure, I make my own terms up all the time. You never noticed? ;) -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Experimental ELFS (Was: Re: More control...hint integration discussion)

2005-11-30 Thread Ag Hatzim
Matt Darcy([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:44:48AM +: Sometimes i am trying to > > > so you mean the lfs-development book then.. > In fact i was talking for an entirely different concept with different priorities but with just one target. To improve the LFS projects. However

Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans

2005-11-30 Thread DJ Lucas
Matthew Burgess wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: I'm getting this in cross-lfs as soon as it gets out. Like I said when you mentioned this last week, Jim, I'd prefer LFS to get this feature first, after all necessary discussions have taken place. I realise that you've been talking this through w

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread DJ Lucas
Tushar Teredesai wrote: I found too many (for my comfort) false positives and false negatives with this method. It will work for Ch 6 only as long as we are installing it inside chroot. But I meant more in terms of using it for package management. The above technique gave me the followi

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-30 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 11/30/05, DJ Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tushar Teredesai wrote: > > > > It will work for Ch 6 only as long as we are installing it inside > > chroot. But I meant more in terms of using it for package management. > > The above technique gave me the following problems: > > 1. When reinstal

Re: Using Linux-Libc-Headers-2.6.x.y + latest kernel version (e.g. 2. 6.14.x)

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 07:46 -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 11/30/05, Feldmeier Bernd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello guys, > > > > I created a LFS 6.1.1 test system. > > But is there a problem if I use > > the latest kernel version ? > > > > Because Using Linux-Libc-Headers version > > a