Re: Cross LFS and UTF-8

2006-01-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > OTOH, if anybody wants this and will help, I will be happy to fork both > books simultaneously and drop non-verified packages from my copy of BLFS. I think the best approach for is to continue with the UTF-8 effort and let us get the wiki up and running to handle th

Re: Cross LFS and UTF-8

2006-01-18 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jim Gifford wrote: Recently LFS has added support for UTF-8. We at CLFS are also looking to include support for UTF-8, but not the same way that LFS has it done. If you noticed a few package changes were added to incorporate these changes, Berkeley DB and Man-DB. The developers of CLFS don't

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Thomas Pegg wrote: On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 21:35 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: OK, using Ryan's patch from last week plus the installstyle echo, with only a 64-bit perl, everything is in /usr/lib64/perl5 and XML-Parser installs into /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl. Looks good, ap

Suggestion for Cross-LFS doc.

2005-10-28 Thread Duncan Webb
Would it make sense to you guys to change section 5.4. Build Variables a bit. I would suggest: 1) Swap Configuration #1 and #2 around because the table belongs at #1. 2) Change the text a tiny bit from "Creating different architecture tools" to "If the build target is on a different architectur

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Pegg
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 21:35 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > OK, using Ryan's patch from last week plus the installstyle echo, with > only a 64-bit perl, everything is in /usr/lib64/perl5 and XML-Parser > installs into /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl. Looks good, apart from > the libc=/lib/ issue i

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
(Adding Jim back to the CC) On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: Apart from that, this has two deficiencies in my view: (i) our 64-bit perl installs in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64, as do all subsequent modules (tested with XML-Parser, which finds libexpat from /usr/lib64, but installs i

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: Translated for Cross-LFS would be. -Dlibpth="/usr/local/lib64 /lib64 /usr/lib64" \ -Dprivlib="/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7" \ -Dsitelib="/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7" \ -Dvendorlib="/usr/lib/p

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-26 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jim Gifford wrote: Translated for Cross-LFS would be. -Dlibpth="/usr/local/lib64 /lib64 /usr/lib64" \ -Dprivlib="/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7" \ -Dsitelib="/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7" \ -Dvendorlib="/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7" \ -Darchlib="/usr/li

Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-26 Thread Jim Gifford
ib="/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/%{version}" \ -Darchlib="%{_libdir}/perl5/%{perlver}/%{_arch}-%{_os}%{thread_arch}" \ -Dsitearch="%{_libdir}/perl5/site_perl/%{perlver}/%{_arch}-%{_os}%{thread_arch}" \ -Dvendorarch="%{_libdir}/perl5/vendor_perl/%{perlver}/%{_arch}-%{_os}%{thr

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051024-x86_64 missing section

2005-10-26 Thread Duncan Webb
TH is written but never gets overridden. Explain what you mean. When you boot into the cross-lfs, this will setup you PATH to what is needed to complete to book. That's correct the path is set to complete all the packages in the book; then a reboot to bring up the new LFS system but the path

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051024-x86_64 missing section

2005-10-26 Thread Jim Gifford
gets overridden. Explain what you mean. When you boot into the cross-lfs, this will setup you PATH to what is needed to complete to book. At least I can't find where it gets reset *and* I think that this applies also the LFS 6.1 Does not apply to LFS 6.1 BTW There is a slight con

Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051024-x86_64 missing section

2005-10-26 Thread Duncan Webb
I think that there is a missing section in 11.9. The Bash Shell Startup Files, there doesn't seem to be anywhere that the PATH is set. In chapter 7. If You Are Going to Boot section 7.14. Setting Up the Environment the PATH is written but never gets overridden. At least I can't find where it

Re: Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Jim Gifford
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: That seems to have done it :) I didn't feel brave enough to start messing with symlinks in my include dir. Thanks. I'll continue from here and let you know of my progress. Btw, Jim, if you want to set up in the book for a multilib powerpc s

Re: Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: That seems to have done it :) I didn't feel brave enough to start messing with symlinks in my include dir. Thanks. I'll continue from here and let you know of my progress. Btw, Jim, if you want to set up in the book for a multilib powerpc section, I can start adding

Re: Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Perhaps, try symlinking /tools/include/stddef.h to /tools/include/linux/stddef.h (based on http://sources.redhat.com/ml/crossgcc/2005-09/msg00092.html ) ? If that helps, the end of the thread hinted that other headers might perhaps need the same treatment. I'll give

Re: Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Ken Moffat wrote: If you are doing something unusual, it doesn't always do to trust the error messages. Mostly, they are apt, but sometimes the cause of the error is not what the person who wrote the message expected. I think OSX used to give difficulties because it was, or is, case insensi

Re: Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jim Gifford wrote: Jeremy, trying doing a glibc-headers build first, this should install any missing headers. Follow the one on the x86_64 page. Also don't forget to create the stub files for linux-libc-headers. Sorry, I should have been more clear. This *is* the glibc-headers build. This

Re: Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Hey Guys, Throwing this out there in case anyone has any ideas. I'm following the current Cross LFS instructions (generally) to attempt to build multilib on a PowerPC G5 running Mac OS X. (I added a patch for ppc multilib just now to the pa

Re: Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Jim Gifford
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Configure runs successfully, but then during make I get the following: Sorry, it looks like some of the output was cut off, here's the full error: make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-20050926' { echo '#include "posix/bits/posi

Re: Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Configure runs successfully, but then during make I get the following: Sorry, it looks like some of the output was cut off, here's the full error: make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-20050926' { echo '#include "posix/bits/posix1_lim.h"';\ ec

Attemping multilib Cross LFS from Mac OS X

2005-10-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hey Guys, Throwing this out there in case anyone has any ideas. I'm following the current Cross LFS instructions (generally) to attempt to build multilib on a PowerPC G5 running Mac OS X. (I added a patch for ppc multilib just now to the patches repo for that.) I can get up to the

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-25 Thread Duncan Webb
Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: 9.4. Expect-5.43.0 I think the configure line should be: CC="gcc ${BUILD64}" ./configure --prefix=/tools --with-tcl=/tools/lib \ --with-tclinclude=$TCLPATH --with-x=no bec

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: 9.4. Expect-5.43.0 I think the configure line should be: CC="gcc ${BUILD64}" ./configure --prefix=/tools --with-tcl=/tools/lib \ --with-tclinclude=$TCLPATH --with-x=no because the tools have no

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-24 Thread Duncan Webb
Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: 9.4. Expect-5.43.0 I think the configure line should be: CC="gcc ${BUILD64}" ./configure --prefix=/tools --with-tcl=/tools/lib \ --with-tclinclude=$TCLPATH --with-x=no because the tools have not yet been built to default to 64bit.

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: wouldn't it be better to say: echo "am_cv_func_working_getline=yes" > config.cache because if the configure has already been run then the cache file should be truncated. I've assumed that _some_ architectures already write to config.cache in these

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-24 Thread Duncan Webb
Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: Hi all, Just build the boot stages of Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64 from a LFS 6.1 (32-bit) system. I've noticed a few small errors that I would like to report. 5.4. Build Variables Following the commands wil

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: Hi all, Just build the boot stages of Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64 from a LFS 6.1 (32-bit) system. I've noticed a few small errors that I would like to report. 5.4. Build Variables Following the commands will set LFS_TARGET to i686-pc-

Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-24 Thread Duncan Webb
Hi all, Just build the boot stages of Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64 from a LFS 6.1 (32-bit) system. I've noticed a few small errors that I would like to report. 5.4. Build Variables Following the commands will set LFS_TARGET to i686-pc-linux-gnu, which works until building

Re: Cross-LFS multilib - perl

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Ryan Oliver wrote: example patch for x86_64 lib64 attached (rename it to something appropriate) Thanks, I'll play with one of those later. Just thought I'd pipe up here... what use is there having both 32 and 64bit modules created if you are only going to be able to

Re: Cross-LFS multilib - perl

2005-10-19 Thread Jim Gifford
Ken, I will update cross-lfs with this information. Working with Ryan on it as we speak. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Re: Cross-LFS multilib - perl

2005-10-19 Thread Ryan Oliver
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 11:55 +1000, Ryan Oliver wrote: updated patch attached, should be fine for MIPS n32 too ( ie lib32 ) [R] --- perl-5.8.7/Configure-ORIG 2005-10-20 11:49:47.571389008 +1000 +++ perl-5.8.7/Configure 2005-10-20 12:30:35.571236464 +1000 @@ -5930,6 +5930,8 @@ : The default "sty

Re: Cross-LFS multilib - perl

2005-10-19 Thread Ryan Oliver
m > the 32-bit install in /tools/lib (spotted this when I tried doing > without the 32-bit perl as an experiment). > > In the final system, perl knows it is 64-bit, but the libraries have > again been installed in /usr/lib/perl5 over the top of the 32-bit libs. Missing fixes in

Re: Cross-LFS multilib - perl, glibc tests

2005-10-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: For the temporary tools, I'm guessing we could just build a 32-bit perl (assuming any 64-bit testsuites will NOT produce perl modules). Progress update: Using the 20051017 glibc snapshot and ONLY a 32-bit perl in test-tools, the 64-bit glibc tests

Cross-LFS multilib - perl

2005-10-18 Thread Ken Moffat
Hi, it appears to me that the perl installations in a multilib build are broken. First, in the temporary tools we end up with a /tools/bin/perl which thinks it is a 32-bit program because it uses the Config.pm from the 32-bit install in /tools/lib (spotted this when I tried doing without th

Re: Cross-LFS: Diff for alpha and removed doubled patch

2005-10-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Justin R. Knierim wrote: Attached is a patch to fix the alpha order of patches (mostly for mips). Removed a grep patch that was listed twice on the mips patches page. svn diff from /branches/cross-lfs/BOOK directory. Thanks, commited in r7032. Ken -- das eine Mal

Cross-LFS: Diff for alpha and removed doubled patch

2005-10-16 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Attached is a patch to fix the alpha order of patches (mostly for mips). Removed a grep patch that was listed twice on the mips patches page. svn diff from /branches/cross-lfs/BOOK directory. -- Justin R. Knierim lfs at lfs dash matrix dot net Index: materials/mips64/patches.xml

Re: cross-lfs build flags

2005-10-15 Thread Ryan Oliver
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 14:52 -0400, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > jaca wrote: > > Hello > > > > I found some problems while creating cross-lfs Sparc/UltraSparc. In > > chapter "9.2. Build Flags" the build flags are configured as follows: > > > > expor

Re: cross-lfs build flags

2005-10-14 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
jaca wrote: Hello I found some problems while creating cross-lfs Sparc/UltraSparc. In chapter "9.2. Build Flags" the build flags are configured as follows: export BUILD32="-mabi=32" export BUILD64="-mabi=64" using this flags I can't configure no packag

cross-lfs build flags

2005-10-14 Thread jaca
Hello I found some problems while creating cross-lfs Sparc/UltraSparc. In chapter "9.2. Build Flags" the build flags are configured as follows: export BUILD32="-mabi=32" export BUILD64="-mabi=64" using this flags I can't configure no package. The error s

Cross-LFS findutils problem.

2005-10-06 Thread Ken Moffat
I've been trying to understand why the findutils testsuites were failing in Cross-LFS. The first problem (the xargs suite) could be fixed by adding a /bin/echo symlink (we were using /tools/bin/echo when the test ran, and the xargs tests were rewritten for 4.2.25 - if no action is spec

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-10-03 Thread Ryan Oliver
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 21:20 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > I'll clarify my earlier posting - I want to run on x86_64 (ideally with > lib and lib32, but I haven't started looking at that yet) Bear with me a bit... just coming back online from an lfs hiatus due to extreme work pressures. I hope to b

Re: Cross-LFS for MIPS64

2005-10-02 Thread Jim Gifford
Peter Szwed wrote: > Pete, >Are you doing a multilib or a Pure 64 build. I'm finishing testing > on a RaQ2 Pure 64 updating the book as I go. I am using the pure 64 instructions - thought that would be the most direct way to get a 64-bit executable. I found it add --with-abi=64 to y

Re: Cross-LFS for MIPS64

2005-10-02 Thread Jim Gifford
I've been updating the book lately, I may of messed up the gcc part. Will check today and fix it. I'll let you know -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscra

Cross-LFS for MIPS64

2005-10-02 Thread Peter Szwed
> Pete, >Are you doing a multilib or a Pure 64 build. I'm finishing testing > on a RaQ2 Pure 64 updating the book as I go. I am using the pure 64 instructions - thought that would be the most direct way to get a 64-bit executable. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev

Re: Cross LFS

2005-10-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, M.Canales.es wrote: If you are rendering/validating all book each time that you made a little change in the sources, yes, the process is very long. But if the change you made only affect some archs, you can validate/render only that books (for example, mips ands mips64) add

Re: Cross LFS

2005-10-02 Thread M.Canales.es
of books. > I'm all in favour of extending the platforms that people can reliably > use for LFS, but I don't see tangible gains - as I read your proposal, > there would be two books with a common source. Users might be attracted > by not having to cross-compile, but equ

Re: Cross LFS

2005-10-02 Thread M.Canales.es
El Sábado, 1 de Octubre de 2005 21:03, Jim Gifford escribió: > Manuel and LFS-dev, > > I have been thinking about this for a few days. Cross-LFS has two > different options in it, boot and chroot. Boot is a complete reboot and > chroot is like the standard LFS book. Talking with

Re: Cross LFS

2005-10-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Manuel and LFS-dev, I have been thinking about this for a few days. Cross-LFS has two different options in it, boot and chroot. Boot is a complete reboot and chroot is like the standard LFS book. Talking with various people, an idea popped into my

Re: Cross-LFS for MIPS64

2005-10-01 Thread Jim Gifford
Pete, Are you doing a multilib or a Pure 64 build. I'm finishing testing on a RaQ2 Pure 64 updating the book as I go. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfr

Cross LFS

2005-10-01 Thread Jim Gifford
Manuel and LFS-dev, I have been thinking about this for a few days. Cross-LFS has two different options in it, boot and chroot. Boot is a complete reboot and chroot is like the standard LFS book. Talking with various people, an idea popped into my mind. Having two separate books, Cross

Re: Cross LFS Status

2005-09-30 Thread Jim Gifford
Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Any thoughts on a package freeze for existing packages, particularly glibc ? (That is, freeze versions unless it becomes clear that a different version will solve problems). I'm preparing to start some fresh builds (x86, x86_64-64,

Re: Cross LFS Status

2005-09-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: We are currently trying to stablize the Cross-LFS book. Any thoughts on a package freeze for existing packages, particularly glibc ? (That is, freeze versions unless it becomes clear that a different version will solve problems). I'm prepari

Cross-LFS for MIPS64

2005-09-30 Thread Peter Szwed
Hi - On an i686, I am trying to build a MIPS64 cross-compiler for gcc-4.0.2 using the LFS book. This is marked as experimental - Has anyone gotten through all of the steps? I run into a problem near the end of the glibc build step during the creation of libc.so because members of libgcc are mabi=

Cross LFS Status

2005-09-30 Thread Jim Gifford
I haven't done one of these in a few weeks, been tied up at work. I would like to thank Matt Darcy, Joe Ciccone, Manuel Canales, and Ken Moffat for their fine addtitions to the book over the past few weeks. I really appreciate it. We are currently trying to stablize the Cross-LFS

Re: Cross-LFS questions

2005-09-30 Thread Jim Gifford
Ken Moffat wrote: Two questions: (i) Is there still a public rendering of this book ? I went to the website to check if I'd borked something in my editing but couldn't find any mention of Cross-LFS. Perhaps it's part of the restructuring. (/me suppresses a thought that

Cross-LFS questions

2005-09-30 Thread Ken Moffat
Two questions: (i) Is there still a public rendering of this book ? I went to the website to check if I'd borked something in my editing but couldn't find any mention of Cross-LFS. Perhaps it's part of the restructuring. (/me suppresses a thought that editors on non-

Cross-LFS build order and running optional tests

2005-09-28 Thread Ken Moffat
I suspect Jim and Manuel will be none too pleased to hear that I'm running some "can it build itself" tests on Cross-LFS (inevitably, this means chrooting rather than cross-building on a different system, and I've noted the desire to drop chroot from Cross-LFS). At t

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-21 Thread Anderson Lizardo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Burgess wrote: > sort that out. I can't think of any other infrastructure tasks that > need to be carried out, though polite reminders are always useful :) - - Add a Bugzilla product entry for the new book. - - Make an official announcement?

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-20 Thread Justin R. Knierim
M.Canales.es wrote: ... and to create the web pages for that new project ;-) Yep, this too. :) Once Jim gets the OK, I will tackle this part. -- Justin R. Knierim lfs at lfs dash matrix dot net -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/fa

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-20 Thread M.Canales.es
El Martes, 20 de Septiembre de 2005 19:53, Matthew Burgess escribió: > I replied 22 minutes after Jim sent the original RFC, saying I agree > with it in principle. Once Gerard confirms, Jim can email me in private > and I'll set up the Subversion repository and book rendering. I don't > have any

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: After some discussion with Gerard, he has requested I prepare a proposal to the LFS community concerning the Cross-LFS book. Have we reached any sort of decision with this? Gerard, Matt, Jim? I replied 22 minutes after Jim sent the original RFC

Cross-LFS: Diff for materials page

2005-09-19 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Hi guys, While building the ftp repo, I found a incorrectly built link, and also a couple patches out of alphabetical order. Here is a svn diff. Justin Index: materials/sparc64/patches.xml === --- materials/sparc64/patches.xml

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-19 Thread Jim Gifford
Haven't heard anything except for the community's feedback. I know Gerard has received the message and is reviewing it, per our conversation over the weekend. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/li

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jim Gifford wrote: After some discussion with Gerard, he has requested I prepare a proposal to the LFS community concerning the Cross-LFS book. Have we reached any sort of decision with this? Gerard, Matt, Jim? -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-16 Thread Jürg Billeter
> > > If we do this, we could remove chroot from the Cross-LFS, since it's > only there for same arch to same arch capability. What about cross-build on cpus that support multiple archs? (e.g. x86 <-> x86_64, x86 <-> IA64, ...) Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-16 Thread M.Canales.es
El Jueves, 15 de Septiembre de 2005 23:43, Jim Gifford escribió: > If we do this, we could remove chroot from the Cross-LFS, since it's > only there for same arch to same arch capability. Exactly ;-) -- Manuel Canales Esparcia Usuario de LFS nº2886: http://www.linuxfromscra

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Jim Gifford wrote: I would like at this time to propose that we create a separate project for Cross-LFS, like ALFS, HLFS and BLFS. That sounds like a good idea to me. +1 Justin -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jim Gifford
M.Canales.es wrote: Yes, that is how I see it also. Both books could be almost indentical except in how the tolchains are created and the way used to build the final system (boot or chroot). If we do this, we could remove chroot from the Cross-LFS, since it's only there for same ar

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Matt Darcy
Jim Gifford wrote: One of things I've been mulling over is maybe have cross-lfs just build the toolchains, but the rest of the stuff, currently the temp-system and final-system of Cross-LFS, could be the future LFS book that supports multiple architectures. I'll put my comme

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread M.Canales.es
El Jueves, 15 de Septiembre de 2005 22:56, Jim Gifford escribió: > One of things I've been mulling over is maybe have cross-lfs just build > the toolchains, but the rest of the stuff, currently the temp-system and > final-system of Cross-LFS, could be the future LFS book that suppo

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jim Gifford
One of things I've been mulling over is maybe have cross-lfs just build the toolchains, but the rest of the stuff, currently the temp-system and final-system of Cross-LFS, could be the future LFS book that supports multiple architectures. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, M.Canales.es wrote: If that will meant that Cross-LFS will be focused on pure cross-build techniques and scenarios, i.e. it assumes that host-triplet != target-triplet, thus no chroot way to build the final system, focusing the normal LFS book on host-triplet = target

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:33:59PM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote: > > If that will meant that Cross-LFS will be focused on pure cross-build > techniques and scenarios, i.e. it assumes that host-triplet != > target-triplet, thus no chroot way to build the final system, focusing the

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread M.Canales.es
El Jueves, 15 de Septiembre de 2005 19:06, Jim Gifford escribió: > After some discussion with Gerard, he has requested I prepare a proposal > to the LFS community concerning the Cross-LFS book. > > Up to this point work on Cross-LFS has been done with the idea that, > eventuall

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: That seems to be the natural course to follow. I would like to see some of the goals/guiding principles of Cross-LFS layed out, too though. For example, how closely does it follow LFS and decisions made there, like package

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jim Gifford
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: That seems to be the natural course to follow. I would like to see some of the goals/guiding principles of Cross-LFS layed out, too though. For example, how closely does it follow LFS and decisions made there, like package versions, etc? Depending on the outcome of

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matthew Burgess wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: I would like at this time to propose that we create a separate project for Cross-LFS, like ALFS, HLFS and BLFS. There are many reasons for wanting to do so: Agreed in priniciple Me too. It's nearly its own project now as it is. I'd

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jim Gifford wrote: I would like at this time to propose that we create a separate project for Cross-LFS, like ALFS, HLFS and BLFS. There are many reasons for wanting to do so: Agreed in priniciple, though I have a couple of nits to pick... Why waste the LFS community's time searching

RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jim Gifford
After some discussion with Gerard, he has requested I prepare a proposal to the LFS community concerning the Cross-LFS book. Up to this point work on Cross-LFS has been done with the idea that, eventually, its features would be merged into the main LFS book. I would like at this time to

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: No problems Ken. But what do you think of my reasoning on the error about the different symlink names for ld? At the moment, that sounds plausible (I've just posted about the perl script bailing out). I used to

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > Since > LFS is all about learning, anybody like to point me to a HOWTO on > learning to read what the book says, rather than what I think it says ? Right after I finish this new compiler I'm working on -- RPM: Read Programmer's Mind. :) -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscra

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: No problems Ken. But what do you think of my reasoning on the error about the different symlink names for ld? At the moment, that sounds plausible (I've just posted about the perl script bailing out). I used to have a --disable-multilib in my scripts,

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: Sack-cloth and ashes time. I missed the "slibdir=/lib" part. Since LFS is all about learning, anybody like to point me to a HOWTO on learning to read what the book says, rather than what I think it says ? Thanks for the clue, Jim. So, now I'll co

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Gifford
No problems Ken. But what do you think of my reasoning on the error about the different symlink names for ld? -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.or

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Ken, You may want to see what I did in the book, I've gotten several builds working on MIPS64 and Sparc64(minus the bootloader issue.) Everything went into /lib no problem, I think this may be an x86_64 issue only. The reason I say this is that the ld

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Gifford
Ken, You may want to see what I did in the book, I've gotten several builds working on MIPS64 and Sparc64(minus the bootloader issue.) Everything went into /lib no problem, I think this may be an x86_64 issue only. The reason I say this is that the ld symlink on MIPS64 and Sparc64 are the s

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Ken, Ryan, Doug, and others Do we need to make a change here for the pure64 build, or is further testing needed? Well, I've got through this part now, using 20050821, building pure64 from my own pure64. The l

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-21 Thread Doug Ronne
On 8/20/05, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The test-installation.pl script hasn't changed between 2.3.4 and 2.3.5. > I think Doug mentioned /lib32/ld-linux.so.2, maybe the missing > _directory_ is what causes ldd to bail out ? > No, mine wasn't adjusted from a multi-lib install. It ca

Re: pure64 Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20050819-x86_64 chapter 10.6

2005-08-20 Thread Jim Gifford
During testing with some of the different architectures it doesn't get enabled by default that's why it's been added to the cross-lfs build. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listi

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: > Ken, Ryan, Doug, and others > > Do we need to make a change here for the pure64 build, or is further > testing needed? > I haven't got into this yet, so I can only compare with my own pure64 using older versions of the toolchain (glibc-2.3.4). My ldd has

Re: pure64 Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20050819-x86_64 chapter 10.6

2005-08-20 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jim Gifford wrote: Thanx Doug. Change Made. --enable-c99 -- enable the c99 standard (ISO/IEC 9899:1999) Is it not enabled by default? I don't remember having any issues with C99 features with a by-the-book GCC build. Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-19 Thread Doug Ronne
On 8/19/05, Jim Gifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken, Ryan, Doug, and others > > Do we need to make a change here for the pure64 build, or is further > testing needed? I will be on vacation for a week, otherwise I'd run through it again carefully. But I believe I followed the book exactly to

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-19 Thread Jim Gifford
Ken, Ryan, Doug, and others Do we need to make a change here for the pure64 build, or is further testing needed? -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscr

Re: pure64 Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20050819-x86_64 chapter 10.6

2005-08-19 Thread Jim Gifford
Thanx Doug. Change Made. --enable-c99 -- enable the c99 standard (ISO/IEC 9899:1999) -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See t

Re: Cross-LFS - svn diff to correct a repeated typo

2005-08-19 Thread Jim Gifford
Thanx Justin. Applied. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

pure64 Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20050819-x86_64 chapter 10.6

2005-08-19 Thread Doug Ronne
In chapter 10.6 the line ../gcc-3.4.4/configure --prefix=/usr \ --libexecdir=/usr/lib --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix \ --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-c99 --enable-long-long \ --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-languages=c,c++ --disable-libstdcxx-pch --disable-multilib should re

Cross-LFS - svn diff to correct a repeated typo

2005-08-19 Thread Justin R. Knierim
As attachment a svn diff from BOOK to correct all misspellings of "Additional". Justin Index: materials/sparc64/patches.xml === --- materials/sparc64/patches.xml (revision 6721) +++ materials/sparc64/patches.xml (working

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-19 Thread Doug Ronne
On 8/19/05, Bryan Kadzban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Ronne wrote: > > /usr/bin/ldd: line 167: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory > > > > So I don't understand who or what is asking for /lib/ld-linux.so.2. > > Looks like /usr/bin/ldd is asking for it to me. Maybe double check > t

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-19 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Doug Ronne wrote: > /usr/bin/ldd: line 167: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory > > So I don't understand who or what is asking for /lib/ld-linux.so.2. Looks like /usr/bin/ldd is asking for it to me. Maybe double check that? It's just a script. Try changing the RTLDLIST variable at t

7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-19 Thread Doug Ronne
in section 10.3 in the Pure64 book, I had to touch /etc/ld.so.conf in order to get the compile to work (complained otherwise). Also, in the make install section, I get the following error: CC="gcc" /usr/bin/perl scripts/test-installation.pl /sources/glibc-build/ /usr/bin/ldd: line 167: /lib/ld-li

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