Re: Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Sebastian Plotz wrote: > Are there any arguments against using rsyslog in LFS? > > You may say "Sysklogd does it's job. So why changing something?" ... > > But then we could say "GRUB Legacy does it's job. So why upgrading to > GRUB 2?", too. Grub Legacy can't be built in a pure x86_64 system

Re: Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Sebastian Plotz wrote: > What about changing from Sysklogd to syslog-ng? > > - syslog-ng is under active development > - sysklogd is quiet old (last version released in 2007) > - we just need to run one daemon (instead of syslogd and klogd) See http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

Re: Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-07 Thread Andrew Benton
On 07/07/10 08:23, Sebastian Plotz wrote: >Are there any arguments against using rsyslog in LFS? > > You may say "Sysklogd does it's job. So why changing something?" ... > > But then we could say "GRUB Legacy does it's job. So why upgrading to > GRUB 2?", too. Except that grub legacy doesn't c

Re: Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Connolly
On Tuesday July 6 2010 02:09:27 pm Sebastian Plotz wrote: > What about changing from Sysklogd to syslog-ng? > > - syslog-ng is under active development > - sysklogd is quiet old (last version released in 2007) > - we just need to run one daemon (instead of syslogd and klogd) We

Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-07 Thread Sebastian Plotz
Are there any arguments against using rsyslog in LFS? You may say "Sysklogd does it's job. So why changing something?" ... But then we could say "GRUB Legacy does it's job. So why upgrading to GRUB 2?", too. In my opinion, LFS should be a modern and up-to-date distribution. But the code of Sy

Re: Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-07 Thread Petr Ovtchenkov
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 22:57:02 Stuart Stegall wrote: > ... > > There are probably more, but I believe they rather universally > rejected syslog-ng. (A few did switch from sysklogd to syslog-ng then > to rsyslog.) > > Fedora has some rationale arguments against sy

Re: Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin White
On 7/6/2010 2:09 PM, Sebastian Plotz wrote: > What about changing from Sysklogd to syslog-ng? > > - syslog-ng is under active development > - sysklogd is quiet old (last version released in 2007) > - we just need to run one daemon (instead of syslogd and klogd) >

Re: Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-06 Thread Stuart Stegall
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Sebastian Plotz wrote: > What about changing from Sysklogd to syslog-ng? > > - syslog-ng is under active development > - sysklogd is quiet old (last version released in 2007) > - we just need to run one daemon (instead of syslogd and klogd

Sysklogd --> syslog-ng?

2010-07-06 Thread Sebastian Plotz
What about changing from Sysklogd to syslog-ng? - syslog-ng is under active development - sysklogd is quiet old (last version released in 2007) - we just need to run one daemon (instead of syslogd and klogd) -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-07-29 Thread Greg Schafer
Greg Schafer wrote: > Indeed, but IMHO some of the Fedora rationale is questionable ie: "dead > upstream" is not quite true. That is, if you can believe the sysklogd > maintainer :-) > > http://lists.infodrom.org/infodrom-sysklogd/2007/0011.html A new release has been made after 6 years. Shock!

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-07-06 Thread Greg Schafer
Dan Nicholson wrote: > I just read that Fedora has decided to take the plunge and replace > sysklogd as their default syslog. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue94#head-f55df1c4e39b27afc053b435a85088e5aec25a84 > > Anyway, they've decided to use rsyslog since it maintains a compatible > i

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/22/07, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > Just to add to this, anduin has been running with syslog-ng from the > > beginning and it has never had a problem. > > Here's a relevant post: > > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pi

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-06-01 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 01:36:02 Greg Schafer wrote: > Here's a relevant post: > > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-February/050643.html But how much of that is still valid? With the latest 2.x of syslog-ng, is it still asynchronous? Based my experiences and o

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Greg Schafer
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Just to add to this, anduin has been running with syslog-ng from the > beginning and it has never had a problem. Here's a relevant post: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-February/050643.html But AFAICT the sysklogd maintainership hasn't

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Justin R. Knierim wrote: > Robert Connolly wrote: >> Syslog-ng was in the LFS book for a short time. It's terrible under load, >> servers can't use it. > I haven't had problems with either packages myself, syslog-ng was > perfectly fine on my dedicateds. A

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Robert Connolly wrote: > Syslog-ng was in the LFS book for a short time. It's terrible under load, > servers can't use it. I haven't had problems with either packages myself, syslog-ng was perfectly fine on my dedicateds. Actually at work, we have 2000 shared hosting se

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Robert Connolly wrote: > Syslog-ng was in the LFS book for a short time. It's terrible under load, > servers can't use it. Sorry - dsa.physics.usu.ru (an old Pentium-166) logs every SYN and FIN packet going through its NAT with iptables and syslog-ng, and works just f

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Robert Connolly
Which in my mind just says it's time to switch to syslog-ng and dump plain > old syslog and klogd. Is there any real reason not to? Syslog-ng was in the LFS book for a short time. It's terrible under load, servers can't use it. And from what I read on google, it looks like sysl

time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Monday 21 May 2007 16:08:02 Robert Connolly wrote: > Changes to linux-2.6's printk, and possible other things, have broken > klogd's EIP translation. There are no patches available to fix klogd. Which in my mind just says it's time to switch to syslog-ng and dump plain

Re: Syslog-NG (was: Re: Technical Excellence)

2005-02-22 Thread Archaic
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 08:34:35AM +, Steve Crosby wrote: > > That said, a system that has that large a syslog load is likely to have a > dedicated syslog server, which should mitigate the problem mentioned. It doesn't take that much load to hit problems, BTW. A mail server (which should be

syslog-ng

2005-02-21 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, Sorry about that syslog-ng thing slipping in last night. I honestly thought it had been mentioned and sort of discussed already. I realize now that I planned on doing so, but then I worked on the testing and unstable branches and the discussion slipped my mind, but I was thinking all

Re: Syslog-NG

2005-02-21 Thread Robert Connolly
I sent a couple patches for sysklogd not long ago. One was a diff against the cvs version of sysklogd. There are several bug fixes in cvs and nothing that seems very unstable, including some security related fixes. I suggest we use a patch to upgrade to the cvs version. The diffs include: + . D

Re: Syslog-NG

2005-02-21 Thread Jeremy Utley
ut of LFS due to lack of maintainership, which, as pointed out by Jim and Steve, is no longer the case. Syslog-ng, at the time, seemed like a decent replacement, even with the need to incorporate the libol library. Given the circumstances, my personal opinion is that LFS should switch back as

Re: Syslog-NG (was: Re: Technical Excellence)

2005-02-21 Thread Steve Crosby
Jeremy Utley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Randy McMurchy wrote: > >> >>This I don't understand. I thought syslog-ng was the new syslog >>daemon of choice for LFS. If it goes away, what is destined to >>replace it? >> >&g

Re: Syslog-NG

2005-02-20 Thread Jim Gifford
The newer version of syslog-ng right now it's 1.9, soon to be 2.0 will also have a change in dependencies. glib2, and the replacement of libol, eventlog libraries. That's one of the reasons for the change. The only other solution is to give a choice in the book, but that's not

Re: Syslog-NG

2005-02-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Utley wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: This I don't understand. I thought syslog-ng was the new syslog daemon of choice for LFS. If it goes away, what is destined to replace it? Gerard's post came as a shock to me as well, so I took the opprotunity to ask him about it on IRC

Syslog-NG (was: Re: Technical Excellence)

2005-02-20 Thread Jeremy Utley
Randy McMurchy wrote: This I don't understand. I thought syslog-ng was the new syslog daemon of choice for LFS. If it goes away, what is destined to replace it? Gerard's post came as a shock to me as well, so I took the opprotunity to ask him about it on IRC, since he happened to b