Re: Not-For-Profit (part of Future of LFS discussion)

2008-05-19 Thread TheOldFellow
On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:39:05 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > TheOldFellow wrote: >> On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:06:00 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >>> TheOldFellow wrote: >> (Bruce, give my warm regards to Austin - a fine city that I have >> enjoyed on a number of occasions, mind you, I also like Dallas,

Re: [LFS Trac] #2057: Udev-122

2008-05-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2057#comment:25 > > And after reading it, hopefully everyone will: > > 1. agree with it or > 2. provide a better solution Thanks for the ping on this Randy. I'm answering this here on lfs-dev rather than than within the ticke

Re: RPM vs DEB vs Slackware-like tgz

2008-05-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Gerard Beekmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan, you have done a lot of work with RPM spec files for LFS. Is there > anything you wish to add to what Alexander said back then and your own > reply to it? Alexander may have said this, but one thing to keep in mind

Re: [LFS Trac] #2057: Udev-122

2008-05-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
LFS Trac wrote these words on 05/19/08 20:00 CST: > > Comment (by Bryan Kadzban): > > Since upstream has already written a set of rules that will work for all > these cases already, I'd like to simply use them. :-) > I am all for this in all cases where LFS has/is going to/thinking about devia

Re: Future of LFS - scripts and licenses

2008-05-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> Do you want me to start on adding this to the book as Appendix D? > > Can I see a finished renderring not quite part of SVN yet. OK, take a look at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/lfs-book/ I did not change the version number, so it still says SVN-20080423, but

Re: Not-For-Profit (part of Future of LFS discussion)

2008-05-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
TheOldFellow wrote: > On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:06:00 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> TheOldFellow wrote: >>> Could some kind American or Canadian soul post a link to something that >>> explains this concept as it applies to a corporation? > > > My thanks to Jaqui and Bruce for the info - very diff

Re: Not-For-Profit (part of Future of LFS discussion)

2008-05-19 Thread TheOldFellow
On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:06:00 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > TheOldFellow wrote: >> Could some kind American or Canadian soul post a link to something that >> explains this concept as it applies to a corporation? My thanks to Jaqui and Bruce for the info - very different from the UK situation. It

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > I don't enter these types of discussions any longer for the simple > reason that it has become too difficult (for me, anyway) to argue > against another idea (or provide countering suggestions). Randy, I hope you will reconsider. IMO, your ideas and opinions are valua

Re: Not-For-Profit (part of Future of LFS discussion)

2008-05-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
TheOldFellow wrote: > Could some kind American or Canadian soul post a link to something that > explains this concept as it applies to a corporation? I think some of us > Non-NA peeps could do with an understanding of that it means, and IANAL! > I presume it cheaper than a Delaware Corporation

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread Julio Meca Hansen
Here in Spain (at least) charital actions can aleviate the natural weight of taxes. What I mean is... if the LFS Foundation could serve a purpose for the community, but with a more wider perspective, maybe in your area that could count as a basis for not having to pay all the applicable taxes,

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread Julio Meca Hansen
> In another email I mentioned Wikipedia as an example, but I don't > necessarily think LFS needs to go to that level of open editing. Really, > what I had in mind was simply making the editing tasks simpler and > easier to attack, so that when it comes time to do the work of adding > content to th

Re: RPM vs DEB vs Slackware-like tgz

2008-05-19 Thread R . Quenett
on Monday, May 19, 2008 at 9:46 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: " What's even more important for educational purposes, Debian rules are incoherent " between various Debian packages. As one of those being educated by all of this (in more ways than you can possibly imagine, a genuine and heartfel

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> F.W.I.W. A Not-For Profit cost here in BC comes to around $500. > I have been a member of a couple of them, founding member of one. > > The costs are similar here in Alberta from the sounds of it. An Alberta registered numbered company is relatively cheap. The annual renewal fee is in the o

Re: Future of LFS (Educational Content)

2008-05-19 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Alan, > Here is the original text from 29/02/08: > I remember this post from before. It's quite a change you propose there. I have to admit, at first glance I'm not sure about the idea yet. But I am not going to dismiss it either. Please give me some time to think about this some more and

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 05/18/08 14:36 CST: > I wanted to wait a bit before commenting to see if anyone else would > comment first. But perhaps the lack of comments is in part because > people feel it has all been said already? > > [snip proposal] I don't enter these types of discu

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread Alan Lord
J. Greenlees wrote: >> >> One could always use Eclipse with the subclipse plugin. Works a treat >> for me. >> >> Al >> >> > ~shudder~ > last time I installed support for Java [ Sun's jre-1.6 ] I physically > noticed an increase in time for loading any application, even non Java apps. > and ecl

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Alan Lord wrote: > J. Greenlees wrote: > >> Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> >>> Rather than re-invent the wheel, would a program like BlueFish be a >>> possible candidate? I haven't used this program in over half a decade >>> but I hear it supports XML. It may be a possible alternative to at le

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Hi all, > > Take a look at http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/wiki/LFSFuture > > Looking forward to reading you guys' comments. > > Gerard > F.W.I.W. A Not-For Profit cost here in BC comes to around $500. I have been a member of a couple of them, founding member of on

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread Alan Lord
J. Greenlees wrote: > Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> Rather than re-invent the wheel, would a program like BlueFish be a >> possible candidate? I haven't used this program in over half a decade >> but I hear it supports XML. It may be a possible alternative to at least >> look into before deciding on

Re: Future of LFS

2008-05-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Rather than re-invent the wheel, would a program like BlueFish be a > possible candidate? I haven't used this program in over half a decade > but I hear it supports XML. It may be a possible alternative to at least > look into before deciding on a custom "in-house" appli

Re: Not-For-Profit (part of Future of LFS discussion)

2008-05-19 Thread J. Greenlees
TheOldFellow wrote: > Could some kind American or Canadian soul post a link to something that > explains this concept as it applies to a corporation? I think some of us > Non-NA peeps could do with an understanding of that it means, and IANAL! > I presume it cheaper than a Delaware Corporation

Not-For-Profit (part of Future of LFS discussion)

2008-05-19 Thread TheOldFellow
Could some kind American or Canadian soul post a link to something that explains this concept as it applies to a corporation? I think some of us Non-NA peeps could do with an understanding of that it means, and IANAL! I presume it cheaper than a Delaware Corporation :-) For what little it's w

Re: Future of LFS (Educational Content)

2008-05-19 Thread Alan Lord
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Gerard Beekmans wrote: > >> Take a look at http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/wiki/LFSFuture > > In some cases, the changes proposed only require general agreement of what to > do > and the accomplishment of the task would be relatively easy. In others, the > changes wo

Re: Future of LFS (Other comments)

2008-05-19 Thread Alan Lord
Here's a few further comments "for the record". Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > 2. Package management and automation > > This is one of two difficult areas to address. How to present PM and how to > integrate it into the book will take a lot of time to reach consensus on the > approach to take.