Re: UTF8 nitpicks

2006-01-27 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/9/06, Tushar Teredesai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some nitpicks related to the UTF-8 patch: > * /usr/bin/zsoelim from groff is overwritten by man-db (three cheers > for pkg-user hint:). > * Mention that users can choose the man package instead of man-db > (with a pointer to the man home-page

Re: Re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Obviously '-B' works for you, and obviously, Ryan's methods work for > him. Is there a 'best for LFS' in all of that? When in doubt, play the multilib card! :-) But seriously, I dunno. I fail to see how you can equate the 2. Comparing cross compilation to native compilat

Re: Re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > >>Isn't using -B to find libraries an abuse as well? > > > Huh? Using a documented switch for a documented purpose? > RTFM :-) :/ I have read the man pages on gcc. I was asking for a bit more, if you have it. The problem comes in the form that w

Re: Re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Isn't using -B to find libraries an abuse as well? Huh? Using a documented switch for a documented purpose? RTFM :-) Regards Greg -- http://www.diy-linux.org/ -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe

Re: Re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: > Not exactly. That bug report is about startfile_prefix_spec being a faulty > spec. It coincidentally highlighted the fact that GCC devs want it removed. Yes, you're right. I didn't word it correctly. Anway, the point is made. > It's there in the current stable book and doin

Re: Re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > There is a bug open to remove this feature from gcc. But, it is a year > old now and still open. > > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19353 Not exactly. That bug report is about startfile_prefix_spec being a faulty spec. It coincidentally highlighted the fact

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess clfs doesn't have this problem because it is using a newer > snapshot of glibc. Does that seem reasonable ? Greg once posted a reference to an upstream bug report. But I don't know whether it is fixed or not. One way to find out is b

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Tushar Teredesai wrote: Maybe one of the package does this. Try this to verify that it is indeed a problem with ldconfig. Compile readline as follows: ./configure --prefix=/tmp/readline make make install make install ls -l /tmp/read

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how to fix them, or someone else could just

Re: Re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Hello Everyone As I mentioned in another thread, my intention is to re-add this method into the LFS book. Jeremy, this is primarily so as you know I've read your email! I'm far too ignorant about the toolchain to possibly comment on the suitability or otherwise of you

Re: Package management

2006-01-27 Thread Matthew Burgess
Filip Bartmann wrote: Why you don't write about paco(http://paco.sourceforge.net/) in section, about package management in LFS and BLFS book? I install and make packages with this tool for whole LFS, and this is the very good tool for this. It is linked to by way of the pointer to the hints pro

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Tushar Teredesai wrote: Maybe one of the package does this. Try this to verify that it is indeed a problem with ldconfig. Compile readline as follows: ./configure --prefix=/tmp/readline make make install make install ls -l /tmp/readline/lib ldconfig -n /tmp/readline/lib ls

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My script makes no explicit calls to ldconfig. > > Maybe one of the package does this. Try this to verify that it is indeed a problem with ldconfig. Compile readline as follows: ./configure --prefix=/tmp/readline make make install make install

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On the non-alphabetic book, with utf8, I never managed to track down why updating readline in place was leaving the symlinks pointing to .old. FWIW clfs (ppc) was ok for that, so it must have been

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the non-alphabetic book, with utf8, I never managed to track down > why updating readline in place was leaving the symlinks pointing to > .old. FWIW clfs (ppc) was ok for that, so it must have been a problem > specific to the non-alphabeti

Re: Installation of NAS on development LFS system

2006-01-27 Thread Jay D. McHugh
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jay D. McHugh wrote: I had trouble installing NAS on my newly build LFS (development) system. Until I found this note from Richard that mentioned the problem: http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/blfs-dev/2003-October/004396.html There was a reply from Tu

Re: *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/26/06, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMHO, the only person lately who has shown the required levels of > understanding, drive and commitment, is you Dan. You obviously care quite > a lot about LFS. If I were a betting man, my money would be on you for > sure :-) Thanks for the v

Re: *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: > then Ryan's guidance is needed right about now. If anyone knows how > to get in touch with him, I'd appreciate if they would. My efforts > have failed, and I don't use IRC. My proposal from today about re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec is based on guidance from Ryan. You'll

Re: Re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Couple of typos in the attached patch. Just letting you know that I've noticed them, will fix them, and will also render/validate these changes before I commit. I've made several careless mistakes recently, and I'm going to be putting much more care into my work in the futur

Re-adding *startfile_prefix_spec

2006-01-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello Everyone As I mentioned in another thread, my intention is to re-add this method into the LFS book. I've done a test build using this, and everything works as expected. Using Greg's extended tests, we know for certain that binutils and gcc will be linking against the right Glibc in chapter 6

Building GCC 3.3.6

2006-01-27 Thread Jay D. McHugh
I don't know if anyone else has run into this (or noticed it), but there is a problem building older versions of GCC (at least the 3.3.6 version - I didn't check any other versions) in BLFS caused by the use of an obsolete syntax for 'tail' in the makefile. I also do not know what the exact conse

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
Long ago, On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: Hi again, Here's some results from my ICA/Farce run of yesterday. They show that the system will rebuild itself with the exception of a couple things that probably won't be fixed by me. (stdc++ .la and gch differences) These exist whether

Package management

2006-01-27 Thread Filip Bartmann
Why you don't write about paco(http://paco.sourceforge.net/) in section, about package management in LFS and BLFS book? I install and make packages with this tool for whole LFS, and this is the very good tool for this. Filip Bartmann -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: ht