Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Sarcasm in & out, with that logic many bugs in bugzilla can be marked as invalid, since most users do not use this or that function of LO. We have a very simple problem here and before flaming wars start we must state it clearly: two shortcuts defined that only (or mostly only) English-typing use

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Jon Lachmann
shortcuts should in my opinion be that good that only very specific user cases need to change them. /Jon - Original Message - From: Michael Bauer [mailto:f...@akerbeltz.org] To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:21:04 +0200 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Michael Bauer
Hm I really don't mean to be sarcastic but - like anyone BUT a poweruser knows any shortcut beyond ctrl c/v/z? If you hit Google Scholar, you find loads of studies which show that on the whole, people don't use them much (like this one http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1207/s15327590ijhc180

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Jon Lachmann
[mailto:f...@akerbeltz.org] To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:12:17 +0200 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ] > I note there hasn't been any comment on my suggestion of a LO-wide tool to > allow the user to set their own shortcuts.

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Michael Bauer
I note there hasn't been any comment on my suggestion of a LO-wide tool to allow the user to set their own shortcuts... Michael 31/07/2012 20:35, sgrìobh Zeki Bildirici: because [ and ] are already key combinations as the same reason Michael Bauer said above. Although i've looked to MS Office

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Hi, I believe Slovenian users have same problem with these two shortcuts. Lp, m. 2012/7/31 Jon Lachmann : > Hi, > > May I suggest Ctrl + [ and ] as the default for US and similar keyboards, and > Ctrl + 8 and 9 for latin style keyboards? > > Who can add these combinations to LO? Andras? > > Best

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Jon Lachmann
@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Andras Timar [mailto:tima...@gmail.com] Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:35:45 +0200 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ] > 2012/7/29 Jon Lachmann : > > The thing I am thinking of is other languages with keyboards short of the > [ and ] keys. All

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Zeki Bildirici
2012/7/29 Jon Lachmann : > The thing I am thinking of is other languages with keyboards short of the [ > and ] keys. All translators should check their keyboard layout to see if it > is possible to enter the Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+] combinations, otherwise it must be > added to the source. The swedish

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-29 Thread Jon Lachmann
29/07/2012 13:05 Michael Bauer: > I may be being dim here but what's the point > of this when CTRL +/- > already increase the zoom system-wide? It is not to change zoom-level but to change the selected font size! //Jon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Pro

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-29 Thread Michael Bauer
I'm on English Win7 here with English as my locale but a German keyboard which has the square brackets on ALTGR 8 and 9 too so I don't quite see that working on German keyboards either. Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout that seems to be the case for many Northern European

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-28 Thread Yaron Shahrabani
Hey guys, as far as I can tell the Standard version of MSOffice uses the following keys: Ctrl+Shift+< and > (Increase and decrease accordingly). Kind regards, Yaron Shahrabani On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Jon Lachmann wrote: > Hi Andras, * > > Concerning the keyboard shortcuts to resiz

[libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-28 Thread Jon Lachmann
Hi Andras, * Concerning the keyboard shortcuts to resize the font in the bug below; i can see that you (Andras) added shortcuts for the swedish version, great! The thing I am thinking of is other languages with keyboards short of the [ and ] keys. All translators should check their keyboard lay