KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Larry
Anyone have any ballpark nunbers for a building owner prewire like this? 8'-4" drop ceiling, electrician will stub out (3/4" conduit) single gang box at each location, plenum cable requirement. quote would include: 14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable 80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks

KX-T: Old remotely programmable message device

2006-05-18 Thread Dan O'Neill
Not particularily a panasonic question, but does anyone recall installing an on-hold message / music device prior to 1996 that was remotely programmable via modem? If so, can you provide me with the model/manufacture? Thank you, Dan ___

KX-T: KX-TEM824

2006-05-18 Thread Seraphin nzima
Hello my dears, please, i'd like to know if i can do SMDR(station message detail recording)printing with KX-TEM824 when i connect it to the PC/printer via USB cable. Any help will be very appreciate. I have already install the KX-TE Maintenance Console and it runs very well. THANK YOU.

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread cdctel
About $8000 would be my estimate here. CPE on the rack and all patch panels as I read it. I would just be providing the jack and cable material. I priced out 5e Plenum. Carmen -Original Message- From: Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: kxt@kxthelp.com Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 04:42:53 -0500

Re: KX-T: KX-T206HBX

2006-05-18 Thread cdctel
I gave up programming through a phone years ago and refuse to go back. The client would either have to upgrade or I would pass. Carmen -Original Message- From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kxt@kxthelp.com Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:34:14 +0300 Subject: Re: KX-T: KX-T2

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Donald Ritchie
10 Thousand as a quick guess 1000 for jacks and face plates 4000 for cable 5000 for labor Larry wrote: >Anyone have any ballpark nunbers for a building owner prewire like this? > >8'-4" drop ceiling, electrician will stub out (3/4" conduit) single gang >box at each location, plenum cable requir

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Navarro
At 05:42 AM 5/18/2006, Larry wrote: >Anyone have any ballpark nunbers for a building owner prewire like this? > >8'-4" drop ceiling, electrician will stub out (3/4" conduit) single gang >box at each location, plenum cable requirement. > >quote would include: > >14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable >80 si

Re: KX-T: KX-TEM824

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Navarro
At 06:14 AM 5/18/2006, Seraphin nzima wrote: >Hello my dears, > >please, i'd like to know if i can do SMDR(station >message detail recording)printing with KX-TEM824 when >i connect it to the PC/printer via USB cable. >Any help will be very appreciate. Piece of cake. Just not in real time LOL S

Re: KX-T: KX-T206HBX

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Navarro
At 07:09 AM 5/18/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I gave up programming through a phone years ago and refuse to go >back. The client would either have to upgrade or I would pass. >Carmen Can you send me a list of your passed customers? Yesterday I changed a name on a TD system. Hardly worth dra

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread SurfSideSound
Larry: In my area, my competition would tell you $800. That's what they told a customer of mine, and complained about how we ran the wire. We weren't finished running the cables!!! Needless to say he bought the system from them, and promptly went out of business. Two ways to figure th

Re: KX-T: Old remotely programmable message device

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Navarro
At 05:49 AM 5/18/2006, Dan O'Neill wrote: >Not particularily a panasonic question, but does anyone recall >installing an on-hold message / music device prior to 1996 that was >remotely programmable via modem? If so, can you provide me with the >model/manufacture? And you want one because?

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread SurfSideSound
Larry: so if I was doing the job: 14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable 80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks (data 1 & data 2 - 160 jacks). other end terminated to two customer provided rack mounted cat5 (110) 96 jack fields- (eighty "data1" jacks to one, and eighty "data2" jacks to o

Re: KX-T: Fw: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread SurfSideSound
Randy: I need to get those prices for jacks! Labor is almost there, cost of living less here, so my techs ring in at 11 & 14/hr, plus burden, and they pack their lunch. Remember Larry stated plenum on this, so recalc your wire. So, yeah JosA/B would be nice I guess, se habla? Steve L.

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Erling Lassesen
Canadian Pricing: 14000 feet Essex Cat 5e plenum at $192 per box = $2688 160 Panduit Cat 5e jacks at 5.01 per jack = $801.60 80 Panduit faceplates @ 1.67 = 133.60 Total Material = $3623.50 Minimum markup at 20% and add taxes. Material sell price would be $4652.57 Minimum on labour would be 160 x

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Erling Lassesen
We just finished about 70,000 feet of Cat 5e pulls and over 500 runs. I don't have the costs for this yet, but $55 per drop would mean my guys would be paid minimum wages. Based on pricing one month ago, my material cost-per-run approx $26.00 This does not include J-hooks. Now if I add labour:

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread SurfSideSound
Ok... they would freak at that price here. But, that's Eastern Shore mentality. 120-160 a drop would be horrendous. Since they get Billy-Bob and Bubba to run the "wiaere". Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) __

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread cdctel
Really! I think 8 to 10k is a normal range of quotes. What would be a good solid quote in your area? Carmen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: kxt@kxthelp.com Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:18:28 EDT Subject: Re: KX-T: cable only quote Ok... they would fr

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Wolfgang Boernert
Have you checked the price of cable lately ??? Non-Plenum cable has shot up to $99.00+ a box, Plenum is almost $200.00 a box (wholesale) Retail is more. Fuel is a $3.10 gal Then there is labor at $45.00 per man (Union Shop) Cable runs at 150 - 180 per run including jack and termination each en

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Larry
To all, Your response amazed me, I thought I would be lucky to get one reply! Everyone was right on with the materials, even noting the little addons. But more amazing was how close everyone was to the same number (what's 10% anyhow). I spent a few hours scaling a print and pushing everything

Re: KX-T: Old remotely programmable message device

2006-05-18 Thread Larry
Carl Navarro wrote: >At 05:49 AM 5/18/2006, Dan O'Neill wrote: > > >>Not particularily a panasonic question, but does anyone recall >>installing an on-hold message / music device prior to 1996 that was >>remotely programmable via modem? If so, can you provide me with the >>model/manufacture? >>

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Ray Pichulo
Cablestogo is currently selling 1000 ft boxes of cat5e PVC for 68.52. They're also selling Plenum cable for $227.25, so your price for plenum cable is better. I have no affiliation with Cablestogo other than as a customer. Wolfgang Boernert wrote: >Have you checked the price of cable lately ??

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread cnavarro
> Cablestogo is currently selling 1000 ft boxes of cat5e PVC for 68.52. > They're also selling Plenum cable for $227.25, so your price for plenum > cable is better. > > I have no affiliation with Cablestogo other than as a customer. > Jenne is still selling Cat 5e PVC in blue (Coleman Cable 350mhz

KX-T: Survey - Sales Agent Commission

2006-05-18 Thread Wolfgang Boernert
Hello All ! I would like to take a survey about commissions paid to sales agent. Let me start by talking about the following categories. Referrals 1st Line Sales Complete Sales Referrals - Someone or a staff member has spoken to a potential customer and referred us to them. 1st Line Sales -

Re: KX-T: Survey - Sales Agent Commission

2006-05-18 Thread Paul Edgar (Personal)
On Thu, 18 May 2006 13:27:21 -0400, Wolfgang Boernert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wolfgang - here is how it works in our neck of the woods > Referrals > If they give you a hot lead that gives a sale = 5% of the price > excl taxes Staff excluded as it is a part o

Re: KX-T: Old remotely programmable message device

2006-05-18 Thread Larry
Dan O'Neill wrote: > >> There were a lot of tel-a-talkers around too, but only banks and loan >> sharks could afford them ;-) >> >> -larry > > > Any idea who the manufacturer was? > > dan > > > from model tat-100 "nel-tech labs, inc" 10 londonderry commons londonderry nh, 03053 i think the al-

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread cdctel
How would you all price each cable run when you are pulling 3 cables to each location? Lets assume that the Patch Panel and the Voice Frame are within the same room and close to each other. Would you still price it out at 120 to 180 per Run, or would you discount the cost based upon the labor pu

Re: KX-T: KX-TEM824

2006-05-18 Thread cdctel
Ser, I just curious, doesn't these eu systems come with any installation manuals at all? That seems to be a basic question that the manual could quickly answer. On our TDA systems we need to use the RS232 output for SMDR data. Not there on the USB. At least that is what my manuals state. I never

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread SurfSideSound
Pre wire for a key system $800. no matter how many drops. I charge $55 a drop for Cat5e, but I hardly get any jobs... probably $35-$40 a drop is the normal whoring price, but I loose money at that price. I have other competitors charging $500 over cost to install a key system, other charge

Re: KX-T: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread SurfSideSound
In a message dated 5/18/2006 1:14:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Cablestogo is currently selling 1000 ft boxes of cat5e PVC for 68.52. > They're also selling Plenum cable for $227.25, so your price for plenum > cable is better. > > I have no affiliation with C

Re: KX-T: Survey - Sales Agent Commission

2006-05-18 Thread SurfSideSound
Wolfgang: Based on your categories, I am CFO, COO, CEO, Pres., Owner, Head of Sales, Lead Salesman, chief cook, bottle washer, accounting office, accounts payable, accounts receivable, estimate originator, underwriter, undertaker, and overlord. If one of my two techs, brings in a job, gre

Re: KX-T: Fw: cable only quote

2006-05-18 Thread Erling Lassesen
Interesting the wage differences. My lowest paid person, green to the industry, right work ethics, gets paid $12 per hour. My top is $25.00 per hour with the other techs around $18 per hour. My techs get their birthday off with pay, and 3 weeks paid vacation after 5 years - 2 weeks after one yea