KR> aileron cable rigging

2013-04-10 Thread Robert7721
From: jon kimmel To: KRnet Sent: Tue, Apr 9, 2013 10:49 pm Subject: KR> aileron cable rigging OK...I'm going to try do Mark's trick and attach a photo. Nobody responded to my previous question so I decided to rough in my proposed routing and see if anyone sees any concerns or co

KR> aileron cable rigging

2013-04-10 Thread Mark Jones
Jon, You should study this page on my web site on how I did my flight controls. http://www.flykr2s.com/flightcontrols.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> aileron cable rigging

2013-04-09 Thread jon kimmel
OK...I'm going to try do Mark's trick and attach a photo. Nobody responded to my previous question so I decided to rough in my proposed routing and see if anyone sees any concerns or comments. You can see the front spar pulley held on by the wood screw in the background between the landing gear mou

KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear

2013-03-19 Thread Tony King
Yeah, that's probably true. They also might have a bit more slop than regular cables. But since there are well known aircraft using them apparently quite successfully, these obviously aren't showstopper issues. TK On 19 March 2013 08:32, wrote: > I have always heard they have more friction th

KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear

2013-03-19 Thread Tony King
s what they are called) like > the ones used on boats? They bend easy and don't need pulleys. If you have > a > fold up wing, no need to even unhook them. > > -Original Message- > From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of jon kimmel > Sent: Monda

KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear

2013-03-18 Thread Jeff Scott
If you guys think about the KR design, the planes were to be as light, simple and inexpensive as possible. ?Also back when Ken and Stu drew up the plans, even boats were still using pulleys for steering. ?The push/pull cables were relatively new to the market for boats and would have been far he

KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear

2013-03-18 Thread Tinyauto at aol.com
don't need pulleys. If you have > a > fold up wing, no need to even unhook them. > > -Original Message- > From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of jon kimmel > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:03 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> Ai

KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear

2013-03-18 Thread Joe. E. Wallace
nyone used morse cables? (I think that is what they are called) like >> the ones used on boats? They bend easy and don't need pulleys. If you have >> a >> fold up wing, no need to even unhook them. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: KRnet [mailto:k

KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear

2013-03-18 Thread Clayton
immel Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:03 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear Just wondering if anyone has tried this idea...the diehl tricycle installation forces you to reroute the aileron cable...and most folks install a long bracket so they can install a pulle

KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear

2013-03-18 Thread jon kimmel
Just wondering if anyone has tried this idea...the diehl tricycle installation forces you to reroute the aileron cable...and most folks install a long bracket so they can install a pulley midway from front to rear spar outboard of the landing gear mount. Why not install a pulley to the front spar

KR> Aileron cable rigging

2012-05-30 Thread da...@windstream.net
Just to re-inforce what Larry said, mine are the same and the result is the same. On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:54 AM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote: = At 11:06 PM 5/29/2012, you wrote: >Larry: does your airplane have cables or pushrods for the control >connections between stick and

KR> Aileron cable rigging

2012-05-30 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 11:06 PM 5/29/2012, you wrote: >Larry: does your airplane have cables or pushrods for the control >connections between stick and control surfaces? + My controls are all cable and I tried not to over tension

KR> Aileron cable rigging

2012-05-29 Thread Oscar Zuniga
Larry: does your airplane have cables or pushrods for the control connections between stick and control surfaces? Pushrods will produce nearly zero lash, while cables will always have a little slop or play unless you tension the heck out of them or use heavy cables, in which case you're probab

KR> Aileron cable rigging...

2012-05-29 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 11:58 PM 5/28/2012, you wrote: >Disclaimer: my Air Camper is wood frame with fabric covering and >cruise speed is 70MPH. That said, I can second what Mark L. wrote >about rigging the ailerons with the trailing edge just a smidge low >on both sides. >Oscar Zuniga

KR> Aileron cable rigging...

2012-05-28 Thread Oscar Zuniga
Disclaimer: my Air Camper is wood frame with fabric covering and cruise speed is 70MPH. That said, I can second what Mark L. wrote about rigging the ailerons with the trailing edge just a smidge low on both sides. My control cables aren't twangy tight but even if they were, the rigging trick

KR> Aileron cable rigging...

2012-05-28 Thread phill.h...@gmail.com
Mine is completely stock KR2, RAF profiles etc. This is the first I've heard of that. On , Mark Langford wrote: > And to add to what Larry said, if you're using the new airfoil, you'll > want > to rig the ailerons so that they are both about 3/16" low at the trailing > edge when centered.

KR> Aileron cable rigging...

2012-05-28 Thread Mark Langford
And to add to what Larry said, if you're using the new airfoil, you'll want to rig the ailerons so that they are both about 3/16" low at the trailing edge when centered. This is due to the lift on the aft edge of the airfoil taking the slack out of the aileron system. At least that's the way m

KR> Aileron cable rigging...

2012-05-28 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 11:57 AM 5/28/2012, you wrote: >What is considered the neutral position of the aileron bell crank? Is it as >seen in Photo Nos #18, 19 and 20 on page 32 in the green book? ++ I don't have my book in front of me but look at

KR> Aileron cable rigging...

2012-05-28 Thread Phillip Hill
Kind of hard to tell from the side like that. I think you have your "up" and "down" labels on your pics mixed up. When the bell crank pushes outward, the aileron should go up. Either way, good to see an actual example. That's not how mine is. On May 28, 2012 1:13 PM, "Dan Heath" wrote: This w

KR> Aileron cable rigging...

2012-05-28 Thread Dan Heath
This will show you up and down positions on my KR2, and a few other pics that may be helpful. http://krbuilder.org/Aileron/AileronLinkage/index.html See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics  See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il – MVN – 40th Anniversary There is

KR> Aileron cable rigging...

2012-05-28 Thread phill.h...@gmail.com
To KR2 builders who used the stock aileron bell cranks and brackets. What is considered the neutral position of the aileron bell crank? Is it as seen in Photo Nos #18, 19 and 20 on page 32 in the green book? Mine is rigged but there's no way the control rods to the ailerons fit between th