Help fixing Lokalize & generic development questions

2011-09-21 Thread Andrew Mason
Greetings, The company I work for is trying to provide our clients with a mechanism to translate a website using .xliff and of all the translation software we looked at, lokalize was deemed to be the best for our use case. We ran across a few minor issues. We tried to contact the lead develope

Re: Building kde-workspace with latest checkout

2011-09-21 Thread Hugo Pereira Da Costa
Adding kde-core-devel, which is better suited for these kind of emails. Seems to me that trunk is actually not up to date for kdelibs, and that accessor to resizeMethodHint is missing from plasma/wallpaper.h / .cpp See patch attached. (can someone fix/commit this ?) At least it made things

why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414 why in the world does nobody care about bugs like basic-operations (and rename a file is really one since many years) for half a year? does nobody upstream use the folder-view? -- Mit besten Grüßen, Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Brad Hards
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:11:43 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414 > > why in the world does nobody care about bugs like > basic-operations (and rename a file is really one > since many years) for half a year? I see lots of comments, so many people care. However the

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 12:17, schrieb Brad Hards: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:11:43 PM Reindl Harald wrote: >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414 >> >> why in the world does nobody care about bugs like >> basic-operations (and rename a file is really one >> since many years) for half a year? > I see

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 21.09.2011 12:17, schrieb Brad Hards: >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:11:43 PM Reindl Harald wrote: >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414 >>> >>> why in the world does nobody care about bugs like >>> basic-operations (and rename a

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Brad Hards
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:21:39 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > because i have not the knowledge and time to learn fix kde-bugs? I think this is basically the same as saying that this bug is not important to you (i.e. you have other things to spend your time on). Yet you think someone else should spend th

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
Hi, On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Brad Hards wrote: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:11:43 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414 > > > > why in the world does nobody care about bugs like > > basic-operations (and rename a file is really one > > since many years) for

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 12:30, schrieb Brad Hards: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:21:39 PM Reindl Harald wrote: >> because i have not the knowledge and time to learn fix kde-bugs? > I think this is basically the same as saying that this bug is not important > to > you (i.e. you have other things to spend your

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Brad Hards
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:15:43 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 21.09.2011 12:30, schrieb Brad Hards: > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:21:39 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > >> because i have not the knowledge and time to learn fix kde-bugs? > > > > I think this is basically the same as saying that this bug is not >

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 13:19, schrieb Brad Hards: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:15:43 PM Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 21.09.2011 12:30, schrieb Brad Hards: >>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:21:39 PM Reindl Harald wrote: because i have not the knowledge and time to learn fix kde-bugs? >>> >>> I think this is basica

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 Sep, Reindl Harald wrote: > what exactly are you missing in the difference between developers / users > > my user-support is writing bug-reports, this is what i can do > and this bugreport is the best sample that nobody is interested in the > help of users - so the

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Dirk Rathlev
> > OK. Thanks for your continuing support for KDE > > what exactly are you missing in the difference between developers / users > > my user-support is writing bug-reports, this is what i can do > and this bugreport is the best sample that nobody is interested in the > help of users - so the deve

Re: Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dimecres, 21 de setembre de 2011, Reindl Harald vàreu escriure: > Am 21.09.2011 13:19, schrieb Brad Hards: > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:15:43 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 21.09.2011 12:30, schrieb Brad Hards: > >>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:21:39 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > because i have not th

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Robert Riemann
Am Mittwoch, 21. September 2011, 13:35:17 schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 21.09.2011 13:19, schrieb Brad Hards: > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:15:43 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 21.09.2011 12:30, schrieb Brad Hards: > >>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:21:39 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > because i have not the

Re: Building kde-workspace with latest checkout

2011-09-21 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:07:36 Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote: > Adding kde-core-devel, which is better suited for these kind of emails. > > Seems to me that trunk is actually not up to date for kdelibs, and that > accessor to master is dead. do not use it. use the KDE/4.7 branch for buil

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Brad Hards
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:35:17 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > what exactly are you missing in the difference between developers / users > > my user-support is writing bug-reports, this is what i can do > and this bugreport is the best sample that nobody is interested in the > help of users - so the devel

Re: Help fixing Lokalize & generic development questions

2011-09-21 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dimecres, 21 de setembre de 2011, Andrew Mason vàreu escriure: > Greetings, > The company I work for is trying to provide our clients with a mechanism to > translate a website using .xliff and of all the translation software we > looked at, lokalize was deemed to be the best for our use case. >

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 13:47, schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > On Wednesday 21 September 2011 Sep, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> what exactly are you missing in the difference between developers / users >> >> my user-support is writing bug-reports, this is what i can do >> and this bugreport is the best sample that

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Getting nasty and impatient helps nobody, is not constructive, is not >> polite, doesn't teach anyone a lesson or makes anyone eager to please you. >> It's counter-productive. > > i agree - but what should you do as user if a bug hits you

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 14:14, schrieb todd rme: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i agree - but what should you do as user if a bug hits you multiple each hour >> since half a year and their is not other feedback as "me too"? > > Do what everyone else does and go through the pro

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 21.09.2011 14:14, schrieb todd rme: >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> i agree - but what should you do as user if a bug hits you multiple each >>> hour >>> since half a year and their is not other feedb

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 14:10:15 Reindl Harald wrote: > on systems with nvidia-graphics it is frustrating seeing such bugs > introduced and feeling nobody cares, the same for the whole Reindl, you have chosen to engage in a non-constructive manner that is not bringing anything of use to

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 14:31, schrieb todd rme: > Do what everyone else does and go through the proper channels. >> what are the "proper channels"? >> i thought bugtracker is > The bugtrack is, this mailing list is not well, and there was no feedback from any developer in the bugtracker now we found out

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Lydia Pintscher
The bug is fixed. As Aaron said this thread will end here. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher KDE Community Working Group member http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe <<

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 15:08, schrieb Lydia Pintscher: > The bug is fixed. As Aaron said this thread will end here. thank you for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414#c43 this was the only result i have hoped with my initial mail instead all the non helpfull "fix it by yourself"-rants signatur

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 15:12:27 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 21.09.2011 15:08, schrieb Lydia Pintscher: > > The bug is fixed. As Aaron said this thread will end here. > > thank you for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414#c43 > > this was the only result i have hoped with my initial

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in line ] On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 09:39 AM, Aaron J. Seigo penned about Re: why are bugs ignored over months? > [ snipped ] > > see, you're not the only one who can play stupid games! *sigh* Just a gentle reminder that two wrongs do not make a right. --- Pablo Sanc

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 15:39, schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 15:12:27 Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 21.09.2011 15:08, schrieb Lydia Pintscher: >>> The bug is fixed. As Aaron said this thread will end here. >> thank you for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414#c43 >> >> this

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Mittwoch, 21. September 2011, 20:17:57 schrieb Brad Hards: > I see lots of comments, so many people care. However there are a lot of > negative comments, so working on such a bug is pretty disheartening for a > developer. That's true! True as well is that most often the rate of negative comment

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
thank you! the half-year no feedback and having this bug over major-releases and a lot of minor releases was the only reason for my tone and my tone will get harder everytime i get a useless "why do you not fix it" the whole KDE4.0 release makes me angry years later because it was a epic fail cal

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in line ] On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Reindl Harald penned about Re: why are bugs ignored over months? > the whole KDE4.0 release makes me angry years later because it was a > epic fail call it "4.0", wait for distributions prepare it for the > next version and

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Nathan Bradshaw
But who do you think you are for taking a 'tone' that is harder? Are you paying the developers and they're not doing what you ask? No. Are you a contributer with a track record of delivering valuable code? No. Are you some random guy who gets abusive in bug reports and then stamps his feet in the m

Re: Building kde-workspace with latest checkout

2011-09-21 Thread Gorosito Gonzalo
Aaron, My kdelibs its already on KDE/4.7: ggorosito@glaptop:~/kde/kdesrc/kde/kdelibs$ git pull origin KDE/4.7 >From git://anongit.kde.org/kdelibs * branchKDE/4.7-> FETCH_HEAD Already up-to-date. Do I need to do something else? Thanks ### # 

Re: Building kde-workspace with latest checkout

2011-09-21 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:56:59 Gorosito Gonzalo wrote: > My kdelibs its already on KDE/4.7: it was part of commit 6ef2c70949c0188f72789b924d9d88b8fb72459e -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer s

Re: Building kde-workspace with latest checkout

2011-09-21 Thread Gorosito Gonzalo
I have this one here: commit 6ef2c70949c0188f72789b924d9d88b8fb72459e Author: Aaron Seigo Date: Mon Sep 19 16:18:52 2011 +0200 only allow valid values for the resize method, and add missing getters I also rebuilt kdelibs after I pulled from this branch. ##

goodbye

2011-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414#c48 after we starting to get childish and revert bugfixes for over months ignored reports in major-components because personal problems i see no reason to spend MY TIME in making bugreports nobody cares after the next epic fail like label 4.0 with a ver

Re: why are bugs ignored over months?

2011-09-21 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Mittwoch, 21. September 2011, 15:39:57 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 15:12:27 Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 21.09.2011 15:08, schrieb Lydia Pintscher: > > > The bug is fixed. As Aaron said this thread will end here. > > > > thank you for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.

Notice of moderation

2011-09-21 Thread Ingo Malchow
Hello all, due to recent activities and as being requested, this mailinglist is now set to full moderation, which means anyone will get moderated. This is not to make you uncomfortable, even the opposite. But don't worry, we are taking steps to have enough moderators to be in time and you don't ne

Re: Notice of moderation

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Gahr
A propos moderation: Can it be seen in the list-info anywhere if a list is moderated or not? Is kde-CORE-devel also set to full moderation or am I doing something wrong because even though I've subscribed all my mails await moderation. Thanks, Thomas On Wednesday 21 September 2011 20:19:00 Ingo

Re: Notice of moderation

2011-09-21 Thread Dale Trombley
Buggers. It only takes one bad apple to spoil the applesauce lol. With recent events I'd like to say a great big thank you to all the devs. I love my Kde desktop and the associated apps therein. On Sep 21, 2011 2:23 PM, "Ingo Malchow" wrote: >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-dev

Re: Notice of moderation

2011-09-21 Thread Ingo Malchow
2011/9/21 Thomas Gahr : > A propos moderation: > > Can it be seen in the list-info anywhere if a list is moderated or not? > Is kde-CORE-devel also set to full moderation or am I doing something wrong > because even though I've subscribed all my mails await moderation. > > Thanks, > Thomas Hey Tho

Re: Notice of moderation

2011-09-21 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 20:39, Thomas Gahr wrote: > A propos moderation: > > Can it be seen in the list-info anywhere if a list is moderated or not? I don't think so. > Is kde-CORE-devel also set to full moderation or am I doing something wrong > because even though I've subscribed all my mails

Re: Notice of moderation

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Gahr
Oh yeah, let's say somthing nice about devs for a change, they really deserve it! I think it's hard to appreciate the effort they're investing. As a Linux user I know a few different communiites and the KDE community can without any doubt be called one of the nicest. Having contributed my first

(documentation) I'm pissed off! ... so I'm going to do something about it ... :)

2011-09-21 Thread Pablo Sanchez
Howdy, Please accept my Subject as an attempt to lighten the recent activity on the list. :) What I'd like to do is contribute to writing documentation for the `Window-Specific Settings' I don't have a clear understanding of how some of the features work and what better way to figure it out tha

Re: (documentation) I'm pissed off! ... so I'm going to do something about it ... :)

2011-09-21 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hi Pablo, great to hear you want to help. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 21:37, Pablo Sanchez wrote: > Howdy, > > Please accept my Subject as an attempt to lighten the recent activity > on the list.  :) > > What I'd like to do is contribute to writing documentation for the > `Window-Specific Settings'

Re: (documentation) I'm pissed off! ... so I'm going to do something about it ... :)

2011-09-21 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in line ] On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 03:53 PM, Lydia Pintscher penned about Re: (documentation) I'm pissed off! ... so I'm going to do something about it ... :) > Hi Pablo, > > great to hear you want to help. Hi Lydia, As I tell my wife, there is no `they' nor `some

Re: (documentation) I'm pissed off! ... so I'm going to do something about it ... :)

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:37:48 -0400 schrieb Pablo Sanchez : > I don't have a clear understanding of how some of the features work > and what better way to figure it out than to write some > documentation. Ha! Since the the UI revamp goes onto my account and i hoped to have clarified some things -

Re: Building kde-workspace with latest checkout

2011-09-21 Thread Gorosito Gonzalo
ggorosito@glaptop:~/kde$ ./kdesrc-build kdelibs kde-workspace * Downloading projects.kde.org project database... Script started processing at Wed Sep 21 12:52:53 2011 <<< Build Process >>> Building kdelibs (1/2) Waiting for source code update. Running cmake... Compiling..

Re: goodbye

2011-09-21 Thread John Tapsell
Reindl, Sorry to see you go. I don't know why Aseigo is being childish - I think this is all just taking its toll on him. This is one of the advantages that companies have and we don't have - we can't pay people to fix the essential things that are boring to do. I would really like to see b

Re: (documentation) I'm pissed off! ... so I'm going to do something about it ... :)

2011-09-21 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in line ] On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 04:24 PM, Thomas Lübking penned about Re: (documentation) I'm pissed off! ... so I'm going to do something about it ... :) > Am Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:37:48 -0400 > schrieb Pablo Sanchez : > > > I don't have a clear understanding of h

Re: Building kde-workspace with latest checkout

2011-09-21 Thread Reza Shah
Hi, I just cloned kde-libs,kde-workspace,kde-baseapps with this steps: mkdir $BRANCH cd $BRANCH git init git remote add -t $BRANCH -f origin $REMOTE_REPO git checkout $BRANCH Then compile everything without problem. On 9/22/11, Gorosito Gonzalo wrote: > I have this one here: > > commit 6ef2c709

Re: Notice of moderation

2011-09-21 Thread Rui Maciel
On 09/21/2011 07:19 PM, Ingo Malchow wrote: Hello all, due to recent activities and as being requested, this mailinglist is now set to full moderation, which means anyone will get moderated. This is not to make you uncomfortable, even the opposite. But don't worry, we are taking steps to have en