2007/6/26, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I just wanted to let everyone know that there is no need for members
of our community that use English as a second language to apologize
for their grammar and spelling.
I think we all recognize that OpenJUMP has a global user and developer
comm
--- Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ha scritto:
SS
Scribus runs very slow on my computer, I still don't
know the reason (maybe because I use Windows? Maybe
the version of Scibus?). As I do not want to spend
time to solve this problem, I go on writing with
Openwriter.
If you send me the
Sascha,
Thanks for checking it out. No rush.
> I'm still a bit concerned that the hole expensive rendering is done
>inside the event dispatch thread. I have to test if this may lead to
>trouble elsewhere.
I also got a little concerned about the effect of GUI blocking on
ZoomToSelectedItemsP
Dear Developers
After using Openjump for a while I wrote some
observations and ideas that I had (as user, not as
developer).
I do not want to open a discussion, and probabily some
of these points have no "common feeling" or probabily
always had answer.
I want only to share with you my experienc
I'm currently working on a whole bunch of enhancements to the styling,
specifically around the concept of Theming layers by multiple attribute
values. Part of this is a framework to be able to define the filters to
select features to match.
As part of this I have implemented a very simple way o
All good comments Peppe! Please see my responses below.
Peppe wrote: "As I do not want to spend
time to solve this problem, I go on writing with
Openwriter. If you send me the Opendoc template I can coordinate
my job to yours."
I'll get you a document template for OpenOffice that you can use if
y
Hi Peppe,
Thanks for your input. We don't get enough of the user perspective
on the list.
Regarding transferring styles, I would point out the very useful
copy style and paste style functions in OpenJump. Also, in addition
to Paul's efforts, I will be porting over SkyJUMP's Merge Task
funct
I would add the possibility to save Datastore query definitions
inside JMP files along with "normal" layers.
This would be _very_ useful, at least for me...
Also the Datastore API should be enhanced to support saving.
Even a simple "Save To Datastore..." would be enough
(a real _update_ would be g
Peppe,
This is great feedback, and I see that Larry and Paul have already
commented. Let me respond to a couple of the things that you
mentioned.
Peppe wrote: "Setup question.
I started to suggest Openjump to my friends or
students.
The main difficulty I found with people is connected
to Java ma
@SS,
Regarding bundling the JRE, I think that there are still some
things that are still misunderstood about the seriousness of the
issue. Since we started bundling the JRE with SkyJUMP, our install
problems have dropped to practically nothing. Before we did, there
was a new install problem p
I think there is a case for two installation packages.
1. Including JVM for the novice Java user
2. Without JVM for those who know what they are doing.
Paul
Larry Becker wrote:
> @SS,
>
>Regarding bundling the JRE, I think that there are still some
> things that are still misunderstood about
Larry,
You highlight some of my ignorance about the way Java programs access
the JRE, and how the JRE is updated.
Would you be able to point out some documentation that discussed the
process, and the advantages, of packaging a JRE with your program?
You may have changed my mind on this, but I wo
Hello,
I was just wondering if anyone is using the startup script for unix. It
seems it has Windows/DOS line endings...
If nobody has any objections, I would check in a new version, together
with an enhancement that automatically adds any libraries in the lib
directory to the classpath (this make
SS,
The attached ReadMe.txt file is distributed with the JRE. I used
it as a guide for what to include.
regards,
Larry
On 6/26/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Larry,
You highlight some of my ignorance about the way Java programs access
the JRE, and how the JRE is updated.
Hi Andreas,
Please post a copy of your script so that we can review it.
All, as a general note for things like UNIX shell scrips and windows
batch scripts the file should have the svn:eol-style property set see
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch07s02.html#svn-ch-7-sect-2.3.5
Paul
Andreas S
All,
I have attached an English language .desktop file for JUMP to this
email. This would be placed under /usr/share/applications/
For this to work you will need to have an executable file on the PATH,
see attached openjump file, this would go into /usr/bin and be
configured to point to the
Paul Austin wrote:
Hi,
> Please post a copy of your script so that we can review it.
here you go:
#!/bin/sh
# To make this script executable, use chmod a+x JUMPWorkbench-unix.sh
# You may need to uncomment the next three lines on some linux systems (Fedora?)
# JUMPHOME=/usr/local/jump/bin
# J
Hi,
Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] puolesta: Giuseppe Aruta
Lähetetty: ti 26.6.2007 17:29
>6)Editing tools (not very seriuos!)
>It would be nice to have some editing tools in a
>"Inkscape-like" style.
>Examples, tranfering some editing tools on the mouse:
>a) one left-click mouse>edit/move object
Hi Andreas,
It's true... I changed file format using 'dos2unix' program...
Can it be solve? It's a little unconfortable.
Regards,
Nacho
2007/6/26, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi Andreas,
Please post a copy of your script so that we can review it.
All, as a general note for things like
Andreas,
I have made some changes in the attached file that will allow users to
customize the settings by creating a ~/.jump/openjump.profile where they
can add additional JAVA_OPTS and generally change settings.
The script also uses basename on the command so you don't have to deal
with set
Paul Austin wrote:
Hi,
> I have made some changes in the attached file that will allow users to
> customize the settings by creating a ~/.jump/openjump.profile where they
> can add additional JAVA_OPTS and generally change settings.
That's a good idea.
> The script also uses basename on the c
Or it might be possible that we only have 6 users. :]
SS
On 6/21/07, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear SS
>
> Only 6 responses so far, it is possible that some additional prompting
> may be necessary.
>
> Geoff
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> > Geoff,
> >
> > What type of response
User participation in the jump-list has always been pretty sparse.
Makes you wonder. I wonder what the 1200 people who downloaded
OpenJump in the last 60 days are doing with it?
Larry
On 6/26/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or it might be possible that we only have 6 users. :
Pedro,
Sorry about the delay. I am just getting to some of my e-mail.
I think we will have to think seriously about tapping into the
GeoTools code for reprojection when we get the opportunity to do so.
I'm sure we can use Edgar's work as the basis for this plug-in.
The Sunburned Surveyor
On 6/2
Larry,
This is a great post. Thanks for documenting some of the problems we
are having with the rendering system. Perhaps I need to take a crack
at these with my pluggable renderering system, instead of stand alone
labels. I'll give this some thought.
The Sunburned Surveyor
On 6/25/07, Larry Bec
This seems like a really important post, and I regret coming into it so late.
Sascha's idea about eliminating duplicate coordinate objects in large
polygon layers and linesting layers is interesting. I have some
questions for him on that, but I will put them in another thread so
things don't get s
I'd be in favor of trying to consolidate the "save your data"
functionality into a single dialog box or other UI Component and
eliminating the old or redundant GUI components.
I'm pretty sure everyone else will agree. Is there something that I
can do to help you with this Michael? (That is, if you
Can anyone on linux give the attached script a test and make sure it
works before we check it in
What file name shall I give the checked in version? I like just using
openjump rather than having a .sh and platform on the end. Although we
could create a generic build that has all of the start s
I think the thread has not reached any conclusions yet.
There are issues with both approaches to saving memory. More study is needed.
Regarding modifying Coordinate objects, we may be closing the barn
door after the horses escaped.
Larry
On 6/26/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Paul,
This is great! I've been wondering how to get a nifty little desktop
icon for OpenJUMP on GNOME...
I'll see if I can get your file to work on my Linux box this weekend.
SS
On 6/26/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All,
>
> I have attached an English language .desktop file for J
Thanks Larry. I'll take a look at the Readme file.
SS
On 6/26/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SS,
>
> The attached ReadMe.txt file is distributed with the JRE. I used
> it as a guide for what to include.
>
> regards,
> Larry
>
> On 6/26/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Maybe it is just one guy downloadin 1200 times because he doesn't want
us to face the reality of a project that is only used by developers.
:]
Seriously, maybe we should consider a user only list for OpenJUMP. I
think most of our user traffic ends up on the JUMP user list anyways.
(Or maybe Vivid
Paul,
Can you wait until this weekend? I will try it on my Debian box at
that time. It sounds like I need to add some of the modifications you
made to the script that I am using in my temporary Linux distribution
of OpenJUMP.
I think you are a more advanced Bash user than I, so I'll have to use
m
Larry,
You wrote: "I think the thread has not reached any conclusions yet.
There are issues with both approaches to saving memory. More study is
needed."
I'm sorry if I confused things. I didn't say we should implement
Sascha's idea, just that I thought it was interesting. :]
Larry wrote: "Reg
SS,
When deploying the files you can put them in directories under either of
the following locations
/usr/share -- global location
/usr/local/share -- all users local machine
~/.local/share -- local to the user
If you have the version gnome menu editor, have a look under
~/.local/share/applica
I can wait until it's tested, send me an email if you have any questions
on the bash stuff.
Paul
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Can you wait until this weekend? I will try it on my Debian box at
> that time. It sounds like I need to add some of the modifications you
> made to the script t
Thanks Paul. I'm putting this on my weekend to do list.
SS
On 6/26/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can wait until it's tested, send me an email if you have any questions
> on the bash stuff.
>
> Paul
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > Can you wait until this weekend? I
Thanks Paul. I'll check on this over the weekend as well and will get
back to you with feedback.
I really need to get these developments packaged up into another
temporary Linux distro and put together some short docs on using
OpenJUMP on Linux.
SS
On 6/26/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
I'm putting this on my todo list this weekend
http://www.imba.com/epics/comfortably_numb.html if the weather cooperates
Long weekend here in Canada :)
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I've been working quitely with Jody Garnett off the mailing list.
We've been exlporing opportunities for GeoTools/OpenJUMP
collaborartion.
We've decided that we shouldn't let our different FeatureModels be an
unsurmountable obstacle to cooperation. We are investigating other
areas where we can wor
That hurt...
(I'm acutally a volunteer with the US Forest Service and hope to spend
some time in the mountains myself this weekend.) :]
SS
On 6/26/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm putting this on my todo list this weekend
> http://www.imba.com/epics/comfortably_numb.html if the w
Jody has offered to help if there is interest in prefecting/fixing the
code that Edgar wrote for Coordinate Projection using the GeoTools
library.
I'd take this on myself but I have already made a lot of other commitments.
If we have any takers I will let Jody know. This sounds like a great
oppor
Hi SS,
Hope you have a great time in the mountains, was in Oregon a month ago
and loved it down there.
Paul
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> That hurt...
>
> (I'm acutally a volunteer with the US Forest Service and hope to spend
> some time in the mountains myself this weekend.) :]
>
> SS
>
> On 6/2
Hi SS,
Seems like most people are uncomfortable with the duplication of
load/save menu items.
Firstly I will need to have a closer look at the involved code. At the
moment, I just need
time as I work quite slowly. ;-)
Thanks for helping,
Michaël
Sunburned Surveyor a écrit :
>I'd be in favor o
SS,
I would like to be involved in these discussions as it will allow me to
migrate away from maintaining my own feature model and readers.
Paul
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> I've been working quitely with Jody Garnett off the mailing list.
> We've been exlporing opportunities for GeoTools/OpenJU
This is great Paul. I'll make sure that you are included in all my
future conversations with the GeoTools developers in this area.
Thanks for participating.
SS
On 6/26/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SS,
>
> I would like to be involved in these discussions as it will allow me to
> m
I have a question about Coordinate Projection in JUMP. Does it happen
when the dataset is opened (as with ArcMap)? If so, what happens when
you save the dataset? Is it saved in the original projection (i.e.
reprojected back) or is it saved with the new projection? I can see
use cases for both.
> Seems like most people are uncomfortable with the duplication of
> load/save menu items.
Not me. Of course, I remember why the Save as File was created in the
first place. It was to get rid of that darn Format menu in the upper
left of the dialog that confused everyone.
SkyJUMP has a new twis
Hi Larry,
If you "open" a file or load records from the database I would typically
want the features to retain their original projection and reproject on
the fly when rendering them in a different projection. The reason for
this is to ensure you don't artificially create any coordinate drift
w
Hi Paul,
Yea, once you open the door on projection-on-the-fly, the use cases
multiply like rabbits. We have to consider what implication
reprojection has on the edit tools. I'm concerned about coordinate
drift too. If you edit during projection-on-the-fly server access,
you are forced to repr
In the code we wrote at Vivid, reprojection was only done when
requested, on data load.
Trying to implement reprojection on the fly gets you into all kinds of
gnarly design issues - I'm sure Jody can fill you in on the fun they had
in uDig trying to make this work transparently.
I could see r
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> I've been working quitely with Jody Garnett off the mailing list.
> We've been exlporing opportunities for GeoTools/OpenJUMP
> collaborartion.
We tagged in Andrea for a couple of rounds as well.
> We've decided that we shouldn't let our different FeatureModels be an
> un
Perhaps they are not using the User discussion list - is it possible to
contact them directly
Geoff
Larry Becker wrote:
> User participation in the jump-list has always been pretty sparse.
> Makes you wonder. I wonder what the 1200 people who downloaded
> OpenJump in the last 60 days are doing
Sunburned Surveyor schrieb:
> [...]
> Sascha's idea about eliminating duplicate coordinate objects in large
> polygon layers and linesting layers is interesting. I have some
> questions for him on that, but I will put them in another thread so
> things don't get so confusing.
> [...]
If they are
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