Hi Peppe,

  Thanks for your input.  We don't get enough of the user perspective
on the list.

  Regarding transferring styles, I would point out the very useful
copy style and paste style functions in OpenJump.  Also, in addition
to Paul's efforts, I will be porting over SkyJUMP's Merge Task
function which lets you create new tasks from old ones.

  I have also found that Java is the main setup problem for new users.
 I believe it is necessary to bundle the Java Runtime Environment, and
to include a windows executable.

regards,
Larry

On 6/26/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm currently working on a whole bunch of enhancements to the styling,
> specifically around the concept of Theming layers by multiple attribute
> values. Part of this is a framework to be able to define the filters to
> select features to match.
>
> As part of this I have implemented a very simple way of loading a saved
> style definition from a Tab Separated file with the style rules. I plan
> to extend this to allow more "standard" approaches to style definitions
> such as SLD, when I get to that point we can then create the save/load
> style from file functionality.
>
> I'm just working on the UI aspects of defining the styles, hopefully
> I'll have something to share soon,
> Paul
>
> Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
> > Dear Developers
> > After using Openjump for a while I wrote some
> > observations and ideas that I had (as user, not as
> > developer).
> > I do not want to open a discussion, and probabily some
> > of these points have no "common feeling"  or probabily
> > always had  answer.
> > I want only to share with you my experience  as
> > newcomer in Openjump, and also the feeling I had from
> > other people I bring to Openjump
> > I  write them in order of importance (my personal
> > point of view, of coarse!)
> >
> > 1) Export display parameters of a layer to other
> > projects.
> > The displayed parameters of a dataset (colours of
> > lines, polygons, fill, winth, etc) are saved only in
> > the program file (.JMP). Neverthess, if people want to
> > use the same dataset in a different project, they must
> > setup again the displayes parameters.
> > At the beginning I thought that "View>Tranform layer
> > Style into SLID" was the function to use. I had to
> > change my idea.
> > A function in Openjump that  saves displayed
> > parameters of a dataset to, for example,  a sepatate
> > extra XML or TXT file, would be fine. This file wuold
> > be used to display again the same parameters when the
> > dataset is opened again in other projects
> > I have no idea about the difficulties for developers
> > to build this function.
> > The proposal is to have  two extra functions on Layer
> > Menu: "Save Layer Properties to (?) file" and a "Load
> > Layer Properties from (?) file".
> >
> > 2) Setup question.
> > I started to  suggest Openjump to my friends or
> > students.
> > The main difficulty I found with people is connected
> > to Java machine.
> > Some people do not setup well JAVA machine  so
> > Openjump does't work.
> > Some other "Windows" people simply don't understand to
> > "click on Openjum.bat" file to run Openjump. They
> > expect the launcher on the desktop (and .bat still
> > remember them the ol'good difficult DOS).
> > I started to give people a version of Openjump 1.2B
> > with Java embedded, similar to Openjump Merge.
> > Proposal: I think it would be fine to have on the web
> > site two versions of Openjump: a) one with setup and
> > Java embedded for easy people, b) the second one - no
> > java no stup - for smart people.
> >
> > 3)DXF/DWG
> > Openjump is becoming, thanks to edit/drawing tools
> > and SVG export, a good mapping software.  A lot of
> > mapping datas are in dwg format and some people cried
> > the absence of a dxf/dwg import option. I always
> > recomand them the good Michael's dxf plugin.
> > Proposal: If Michael agrees, this plugin could be
> > embedded in  Openjump.
> > Regarding dwg I image it is only a problem of time.
> >
> > 4) Save file observation.
> > There is still some confusion for newcomers about the
> > difference betwee "Save Datasets as file..." and "Save
> > dataset as..". (See Michael and Uwe discussion in
> > [JPP-Devel] Load/Save dataset design).
> > I tried to point out in a help documentation I posted
> > some weeks ago. Nevertheless there are still newcomers
> > who use "Save dataset as.."  ... and they forget the
> > suffix! I belive, like Uwe, that it is important to
> > have a suffix built automatically.
> >
> > 5) PostGIS
> > I think it's time to transalte Uwe's Portgis tutorial
> > in English (if Uwe agrees, of coarse) maybe integrated
> > with how to use Orbiscad and Openjump together.
> > Proposal: Does somebody thranslate from German to
> > English (otherwise this summer I will try to refresh
> > my scarse German with Uwe's documentation)?
> >
> > 6)Editing tools (not very seriuos!)
> > It would be nice to have some editing tools in a
> > "Inkscape-like" style.
> > Examples, tranfering some editing tools on the mouse:
> > a) one left-click mouse>edit/move object
> > b) two left click mouse>edit/move verticles
> > c) three left-click mouse>free rotation
> > This probabiy makes Openjump editing tools more
> > "international-ized"
> > Is this something difficuld to build?
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your attention
> >
> > Peppe
> >
> >
> >
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