Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-10 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
On 9/10/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/8/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hei.. > > > > last week i tested and i could extract the html pages of the wiki.. > > (after downloading the complete wiki from the backup location) > > > > But it will still need

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-10 Thread Stefan Steiniger
yupp.. i like it this way much more. :o) and i never tested gmail - due to google's "acquisitiveness". But just recently i thought about using it as incomming address for the jpp stuff stefan Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: > On 9/10/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 9/8/07, Ste

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-10 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
On 9/8/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hei.. > > last week i tested and i could extract the html pages of the wiki.. > (after downloading the complete wiki from the backup location) > > But it will still need a bit more testing, e.g. if we can just copy the > html files into an

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-08 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei.. last week i tested and i could extract the html pages of the wiki.. (after downloading the complete wiki from the backup location) But it will still need a bit more testing, e.g. if we can just copy the html files into an OJ folder (probably the images won't work -as they are on a differ

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-06 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Peppe wrote: "I still consider that OJ has to open a small HELP.PDF file (people have to download it and put in a OJ folder). A small PDF (with all the essential information about the tools and functions) could be translated in different languages. Even if it is not regularly upgraded as the wiki

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-05 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi SS you wrote: "We have the contect sensitive help in OpenJUMP wired to Open the URL to the wiki. We then provide select PDF files for important help topics as a download on SourceForge for those that might not always have an internet connection." I still consider that OJ has to open a small HE

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-04 Thread Larry Becker
@Sunburned , In general it is pretty easy, but as usual there are some cross platform issues: http://www.croftsoft.com/library/tutorials/browser/ We could always copy the code from some open source app. @Peppe, I've been on the broadband net for so long, I forget that it isn't universal. T

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-04 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Larry wrote: "One of the problems is that once you have published a PDF, it is around forever regardless of how out of date it becomes. The web is always up to date, which is why most new software uses web links for help." You know, I never thought of that. Thanks for pointing it out. Peppe wrot

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help - file attached

2007-09-04 Thread Larry Becker
Pretty nice! Larry On 9/4/07, Giuseppe Aruta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I send some file as a sample. One is an opendoc help > file - only the list of the function (a clone of the > wiki page) > The second one is the exported PDF. > > You can see how minimum can be an help file (ODT only

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-04 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
You're right Larry, but I think we shall consider the people who cannot be on-line every time they work. And also thet probabily there are still places in the World where Internet is not so availabe whenever you switch on a laptop (e.g. in Italy! But I would like to know the opinion of Ravi from In

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-04 Thread Larry Becker
Actually I like the idea that the wiki IS the help. We can put in a menu item that simply opens the wiki help page. This is the simplest solution and consolidates all of the help work with no duplication of effort. Keeping PDFs up to date could be a big effort. I have tried to do this on other

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-04 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Peppe, Maybe #2 is the way to go then Peppe. We'll need to give some thought to how we organize the PDFs in a directory, and we should still think about separating the text from the images in the PDF files to reduce layout changes during translation. SS On 9/2/07, Giuseppe Aruta <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-02 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
--- Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > I have thought about this question of integrating > help into OpenJUMP > quite a bit. > > Here are some of my thoughts, if anyone is > interested: > > [1] We could use the JavaHelp system. It seems > fairly comprehensive, > is being devel

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-09-01 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I have thought about this question of integrating help into OpenJUMP quite a bit. Here are some of my thoughts, if anyone is interested: [1] We could use the JavaHelp system. It seems fairly comprehensive, is being developed and maintained by Sun Microsystems, and offers a help system most users

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-08-25 Thread Stefan Steiniger
mhm..ok.. in understand. But i am not sure if i like the solution ;) Actually i just got one idea: The wiki-pages can be exported to html (http://openjump.org/wiki/export) - but i have never tried it. So what we could do is to attach your wiki pages with the distribution (which is even faster as

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-08-25 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
What I think about help is only an option in the menu bar that only opens a pdf help file (if this is present in the lib/ext or lib/doc folder). People who want the help can downloid it separately and put in the folder. If the help pdf is not present the option doesn't work peppe St

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-08-23 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Yep.. adding a help is necessary and we need to look how SIGLE (and Pirol?) has done that. but i am not sure about the pdf option? Maybe i did not really understand how you mean it. Do you want to open a browser with a web-page, so that someone can download it.. or do you want an integrated pd

[JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-08-23 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi all, I have a sort of request/idea for a future development of OJ. I am writiung a small PDF doc with all the essentil things about OJ: List of functions, tools, editing toolbox, Change style and attribute value. I image that this doc could work as an embedded help if it is possible to ope