@Sunburned ,

In general it is pretty easy, but as usual there are some cross platform issues:

http://www.croftsoft.com/library/tutorials/browser/

We could always copy the code from some open source app.

@Peppe,

   I've been on the broadband net for so long, I forget that it isn't
universal.  Too bad the wiki doesn't have a PDF conversion function.

regards,
Larry

On 9/4/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry wrote: "One of the problems is that once you
> have published a PDF, it is around forever regardless of how out of
> date it becomes.  The web is always up to date, which is why most new
> software uses web links for help."
>
> You know, I never thought of that. Thanks for pointing it out.
>
> Peppe wrote: "You're right Larry, but I think we shall consider the
> people who cannot be on-line every time they work. And
> also thet probabily there are still places in the
> World where Internet is not so availabe whenever you
> switch on a laptop (e.g. in Italy! But I would like to
> know the opinion of Ravi from India)."
>
> This is an excellent point Peppe.
>
> How is this for a suggestion:
>
> We have the contect sensitive help in OpenJUMP wired to Open the URL
> to the wiki. We then provide select PDF files for important help
> topics as a download on SourceForge for those that might not always
> have an internet connection.
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
>
> P.S. - Larry - I've never opened up a URL from a Java program before.
> Would it be possible to come up with some code that would allow a
> plug-in developer to do this in a relatively easy way? I'm not asking
> you to write the code of course, i'm just wondering if it is
> conceptually possible or practical.
>
>
>
>
> On 9/4/07, Giuseppe Aruta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You're right Larry, but I think we shall consider the
> > people who cannot be on-line every time they work. And
> > also thet probabily there are still places in the
> > World where Internet is not so availabe whenever you
> > switch on a laptop (e.g. in Italy! But I would like to
> > know the opinion of Ravi from India).
> > We probabily can leave both ideas open: 1) a
> > connection to the wikipage as on-line help and 2) the
> > possibility to put a small pdf with all the important
> > information to know
> >
> > regards,
> > peppe
> >
> >
> > --- Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Actually I like the idea that the wiki IS the help.
> > > We can put in a
> > > menu item that simply opens the wiki help page.
> > > This is the simplest
> > > solution and consolidates all of the help work with
> > > no duplication of
> > > effort.  Keeping PDFs up to date could be a big
> > > effort.  I have tried
> > > to do this on other projects.  One of the problems
> > > is that once you
> > > have published a PDF, it is around forever
> > > regardless of how out of
> > > date it becomes.  The web is always up to date,
> > > which is why most new
> > > software uses web links for help.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > On 9/4/07, Sunburned Surveyor
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Peppe,
> > > >
> > > > Maybe #2 is the way to go then Peppe. We'll need
> > > to give some thought
> > > > to how we organize the PDFs in a directory, and we
> > > should still think
> > > > about separating the text from the images in the
> > > PDF files to reduce
> > > > layout changes during translation.
> > > >
> > > > SS
> > > >
> > > > On 9/2/07, Giuseppe Aruta
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Sunburned Surveyor
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > ha scritto:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have thought about this question of
> > > integrating
> > > > > > help into OpenJUMP
> > > > > > quite a bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here are some of my thoughts, if anyone is
> > > > > > interested:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] We could use the JavaHelp system. It seems
> > > > > > fairly comprehensive,
> > > > > > is being developed and maintained by Sun
> > > > > > Microsystems, and offers a
> > > > > > help system most users are familiar with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [2] We could simply open a PDF file as Peppe
> > > > > > suggested. The only
> > > > > > problem with this route is that the user will
> > > have
> > > > > > to have a PDF
> > > > > > reader installed and OpenJUMP will need to be
> > > able
> > > > > > to find it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [3] I have considered putting together a
> > > simple help
> > > > > > viewer for
> > > > > > OpenJUMP. This help  viewer displays plain
> > > text on
> > > > > > its left pane, and
> > > > > > images and image captions on its right. I
> > > thought of
> > > > > > this help viewer
> > > > > > because it separates text from images, which
> > > is
> > > > > > important for ease of
> > > > > > translation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of all these, number [2] is likely the
> > > easiest.
> > > > > > Number [1] is the
> > > > > > option that offers the most functionality, but
> > > i
> > > > > > think it is the most
> > > > > > complex, and creates problems for translation
> > > > > > because it combines text
> > > > > > and images.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Sunburned Surveyor
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi SS
> > > > > there is a sample of [2]: MapMaker
> > > > > http://www.mapmaker.com/. People can download
> > > the
> > > > > software or the help pdf apart.
> > > > > If user put the pdf in a mapmaker folder, they
> > > can
> > > > > open it with an option on the help menu.
> > > > > I think that this way is the easiest sinche OJ
> > > users
> > > > > can download apart the help.
> > > > > More than this, if there is an embedded help,
> > > this
> > > > > will encourage users to discover new
> > > functionalities
> > > > > and to test the software
> > > > >
> > > > > peppe
> > > > >
> > > > >
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