Larry wrote: "One of the problems is that once you have published a PDF, it is around forever regardless of how out of date it becomes. The web is always up to date, which is why most new software uses web links for help."
You know, I never thought of that. Thanks for pointing it out. Peppe wrote: "You're right Larry, but I think we shall consider the people who cannot be on-line every time they work. And also thet probabily there are still places in the World where Internet is not so availabe whenever you switch on a laptop (e.g. in Italy! But I would like to know the opinion of Ravi from India)." This is an excellent point Peppe. How is this for a suggestion: We have the contect sensitive help in OpenJUMP wired to Open the URL to the wiki. We then provide select PDF files for important help topics as a download on SourceForge for those that might not always have an internet connection. The Sunburned Surveyor P.S. - Larry - I've never opened up a URL from a Java program before. Would it be possible to come up with some code that would allow a plug-in developer to do this in a relatively easy way? I'm not asking you to write the code of course, i'm just wondering if it is conceptually possible or practical. On 9/4/07, Giuseppe Aruta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're right Larry, but I think we shall consider the > people who cannot be on-line every time they work. And > also thet probabily there are still places in the > World where Internet is not so availabe whenever you > switch on a laptop (e.g. in Italy! But I would like to > know the opinion of Ravi from India). > We probabily can leave both ideas open: 1) a > connection to the wikipage as on-line help and 2) the > possibility to put a small pdf with all the important > information to know > > regards, > peppe > > > --- Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > Actually I like the idea that the wiki IS the help. > > We can put in a > > menu item that simply opens the wiki help page. > > This is the simplest > > solution and consolidates all of the help work with > > no duplication of > > effort. Keeping PDFs up to date could be a big > > effort. I have tried > > to do this on other projects. One of the problems > > is that once you > > have published a PDF, it is around forever > > regardless of how out of > > date it becomes. The web is always up to date, > > which is why most new > > software uses web links for help. > > > > regards, > > Larry > > > > On 9/4/07, Sunburned Surveyor > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Peppe, > > > > > > Maybe #2 is the way to go then Peppe. We'll need > > to give some thought > > > to how we organize the PDFs in a directory, and we > > should still think > > > about separating the text from the images in the > > PDF files to reduce > > > layout changes during translation. > > > > > > SS > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Giuseppe Aruta > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Sunburned Surveyor > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > ha scritto: > > > > > > > > > I have thought about this question of > > integrating > > > > > help into OpenJUMP > > > > > quite a bit. > > > > > > > > > > Here are some of my thoughts, if anyone is > > > > > interested: > > > > > > > > > > [1] We could use the JavaHelp system. It seems > > > > > fairly comprehensive, > > > > > is being developed and maintained by Sun > > > > > Microsystems, and offers a > > > > > help system most users are familiar with. > > > > > > > > > > [2] We could simply open a PDF file as Peppe > > > > > suggested. The only > > > > > problem with this route is that the user will > > have > > > > > to have a PDF > > > > > reader installed and OpenJUMP will need to be > > able > > > > > to find it. > > > > > > > > > > [3] I have considered putting together a > > simple help > > > > > viewer for > > > > > OpenJUMP. This help viewer displays plain > > text on > > > > > its left pane, and > > > > > images and image captions on its right. I > > thought of > > > > > this help viewer > > > > > because it separates text from images, which > > is > > > > > important for ease of > > > > > translation. > > > > > > > > > > Of all these, number [2] is likely the > > easiest. > > > > > Number [1] is the > > > > > option that offers the most functionality, but > > i > > > > > think it is the most > > > > > complex, and creates problems for translation > > > > > because it combines text > > > > > and images. > > > > > > > > > > The Sunburned Surveyor > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi SS > > > > there is a sample of [2]: MapMaker > > > > http://www.mapmaker.com/. People can download > > the > > > > software or the help pdf apart. > > > > If user put the pdf in a mapmaker folder, they > > can > > > > open it with an option on the help menu. > > > > I think that this way is the easiest sinche OJ > > users > > > > can download apart the help. > > > > More than this, if there is an embedded help, > > this > > > > will encourage users to discover new > > functionalities > > > > and to test the software > > > > > > > > peppe > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > > > > L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla > > con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: > > http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > > > Still grepping through log files to find > > problems? 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