Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-10 Thread Vinnie Surmonde
it's only partly because of the cost (btw, this is getting really off topic, perhaps it should migrate to grrltalk?) -- in my experience, doctors don't help or make things worse about as often as they make things better. This might not be true for *really* serious diseases (but then again, it mig

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-10 Thread J B
I have to ask...what would youy say about the healthcare industry? The increased costs in the United States for healthcare are becuase of the insanely high cost of malpractice insurance, which has been driven there by moneyt hungry lawyers. For example...my mother is an advanced practice nurse

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-10 Thread Caitlyn Martin
Hi, Vinnie, > Do you think they would want > drugs that could cause permanant neurological damage given to their > children by their doctors? ...or causes birth defects, something I know about first-hand. We *need* the government to have laws and rules that protect the people. Curious is arguin

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread Dakota Surmonde
On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, curious wrote: > The Macintosh IS a PC... and for their platform they ARE controling who for the purposes of this debate macintosh is *not* a pc -- pc is defined as intel-compatible hardware (I know, I know, *technically* the mac is a 'personal computer', but that's not how w

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, curious wrote: > > Do you HONESTLY think that VA sells no MS? That they have no OEM agreement > > with MS? > > hmmms didn't find VA's statement on the matter... so they might.. however > going to penguin computings: > http://www.penguincomputing.com/about.html > states they d

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread Nicole
> At what point is something considered adequate? If no other company is/was > able to stand up to microsoft's marketing... (which is how microsoft > became, and maintains it's success).. if customers weren't buying OS/2 or > DRDOS to a degree that would have made a diffrence.. why should microsof

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread curious
> > I don't belive this is the case... VAlinux systems, penguin computing, > > thelinuxstore, etc... have been doing just fine.. heck microway sells both > > types of systems and sells linux systems for less... > > Do you HONESTLY think that VA sells no MS? That they have no OEM agreement > with

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, curious wrote: I missed an earlier fallacy here: > > here's the problem, you *have* to sell MS's product in order to survive, > > and you have to get it at the same price as everyone else in order to > > remain competative in order to survive, hence, you have to get MS's > >

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, curious wrote: > The Macintosh IS a PC... and for their platform they ARE controling who > makes the hardware, who makes the OS, Who can license their product to > VERY extreme degrees... they are keeping other vendors like BeOS from > alowing thier OS to run on thier current

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread curious
sorry that response to vinnie was supposed to be an emailed response.. I'm quite sure most of you don't know ness :) hehe, /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.curious.o

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread curious
> > they do? then why is it I'm not drinking MS lemonade at home? (ie. I'm not > > using MS at home) infact I was raised on Apple-lemonade for many years.. > > hmmms > > you were raised on apple juice, different product, and it was in a > cup...because the glasses won't hold applejuice, silly! >

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread Dakota Surmonde
On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, curious wrote: > they do? then why is it I'm not drinking MS lemonade at home? (ie. I'm not > using MS at home) infact I was raised on Apple-lemonade for many years.. > hmmms you were raised on apple juice, different product, and it was in a cup...because the glasses won't ho

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread jenn
curious wrote: > Sounds good to me :).. I think nothing should be done :).. Fine. We've got that. We understand your argument, and respectfully disagree. You can now relax, knowing you've made your point. As the list has, for two days, attempted to explain our side to you - and you don't see

Re: [issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-09 Thread curious
> pretend I'm a really big guy (okay, this is hard, but pretend > anyway...think, like..my father's size or something) on the internet you can be anyone or anything :) > > you're selling glasses cool! > > I'm selling lemonade yum! > > if I agree to give you a cut rate on lemonade so you

[issues] MS vs DOJ, etc

1999-11-08 Thread Dakota Surmonde
On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, curious wrote: > define ethical? if your saying that I can insure that I can get my > operating system to be included with every PC by making a deal with > vendors.. I think I would... is that unethical? let's see if I can't put this another way pretend I'm a really big guy