Re: [issues] Re; Despotic Demographics

2000-01-03 Thread franzoni
On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Dan McGarry wrote: > to consider that their group is comprised mostly of middle class liberals > with college degrees, living in a fairly small geographic range, globally > speaking. Ok, so I am in one of the minorities, being Italian :-) > 1) Does high-tech always *req

Re: [issues] list of women in open source

1999-12-21 Thread franzoni
On 19 Dec 1999, Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote: > >On the subject of editors: Marjorie Richardson is the editor of > >Linux Journal, too. > > Cool, noted. Some time ago we tried to find some linux-women, and some names came up... well, no-one's sure if they really are women, but here they are: Pa

Re: [issues] Patents (was: RMS boycott of Amazon)

1999-12-19 Thread franzoni
On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, TeknoDragon wrote: > > copyright to patents (as is in the US). Well, patents are not a good > > thing, you can tell from the amazon story (and the unisys/gif one, you > > not a good thing? > > tell me, if you were a struggling college student who is developing an > original

Re: [issues] Fwd: RMS says "Boycott Amazon"

1999-12-18 Thread franzoni
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Nicole Zimmerman wrote: > Personally, I don't think it's worth it to boycott amazon... but rather > to deal with the real problem, the patent organisation itself. Amazon is > taking advantage of putting a patent on something they feel is original > material (and no, it's not

Re: [issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-12-02 Thread franzoni
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ok, but why are all the women not contributing? Contributing is quite > > easy, and mostly you don't even have to report to anyone. > > There's the big question: How? > I know it has to be easy, straightforward, etc etc etc - but .. I haven't > th

Re: [issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-12-02 Thread franzoni
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > Well, as Laurel said, it's entirely possible they're there but > less well-known. As an example, I was looking at the manual page Yes, it is possible, but there aren't any (except three) who participate in LUG attivity, nor attend meeting, and they're n

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-02 Thread franzoni
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Maureen Lecuona wrote: > I think that a women-led project is achieved only when women predominate the > group. If you mean woman led, as in one woman, I don't think this is > easily achievable in an open source venue. Not easily because, luckily, most open source projects a

Re: [issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-12-02 Thread franzoni
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Laurel Fan wrote: > > Ok, but why are all the women not contributing? > > Many are. It's just that like thousands of men and women, they aren't > high profile, so you don't know of them. In Italy there aren't any, even low profile, so I'd like to show that maybe in other co

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-01 Thread franzoni
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > Well, would you women feel less uncomfortable if the an open software > > project were started by a woman and included mostly or only women? > > I wouldn't want a women-only project. I would like a women-led project. I agree. Excluding males from t

Re: [issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-12-01 Thread franzoni
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > Really? Ok, Dima I just guessed, but Nikita I thought... well, there is > > a movie about a Nikita who was definetly female... oh well, never too > > late to learn ;-) > > It makes sense that if the movie was called "La Femme Nikita" that it > would

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-01 Thread franzoni
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Maureen Lecuona wrote: > There's an awful lot yet to do for linux. I have been thinking about > starting such a group for a while (about 2 years), but my time has been > very limited by the demands of my job. I think this is becoming more manageable > now, and if there's in

Re: [issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-12-01 Thread franzoni
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Maureen Lecuona wrote: > I think that the evidence is that very few women are engaged in Linux > as either leaders of a commercial Linux entrepise or as developers in the > open source community. that is clear > What we need is not a list of some of the very few examples we

RE: [issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-12-01 Thread franzoni
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Ian Phillips wrote: > > so, who is Esther? > > Esther Dyson is a venture capitalist who mostly invests in tech stock and > emerging market companies. > > In the UK we've got Eva Pascoe, founder of the Cyberia chain of Cyber-Cafés. mmm are they involved in any way in open so

Re: [issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-12-01 Thread franzoni
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Ingrid Schupbach wrote: > You've got some men in here - sorry... Purged them. Thanks :-) I also purged all the oriental names, because I could never guess :-) Here's what remained: Kernel developers = Pat Mackinlay (Australia) Pauline Middelink (Netherland

Re: [issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-12-01 Thread franzoni
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Renie wrote: > I don't know about the other names, but Dima and Nikita are > Russian male names :) . Really? Ok, Dima I just guessed, but Nikita I thought... well, there is a movie about a Nikita who was definetly female... oh well, never too late to learn ;-) Eugeni

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-11-30 Thread franzoni
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, ae wrote: > First off - Jamie Lokier is male, and a very good friend of mine. :) Ok, I'll take him off the list. I was sure many of them were male :-)) > I'm a developer - C/C++ *nix - use KDE on Mandrake 6.1, with gvim as > editor and mozilla when I can get it to stay up,

[issues] linux women - the revenge? :-)

1999-11-30 Thread franzoni
So as for kernel developers we're down to Jamie Lokier (UK) Pat Mackinlay (Australia) Pauline Middelink (Netherlands) Arindam Banerji (USA) Chih-Jen Chang (China) Niibe Yutaka (Japan) H.J. Lu (USA, probably) Kai Harrekilde-Petersen (Norway) Kai Makisara (Finland) (I'll look in the web if I can f

Re: [issues] Linux Mag: 50 Linux People to Watch

1999-11-30 Thread franzoni
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Jillian-Beth Stamos-Kaschke wrote: > Don't know about the Scandinavians, but in Germany, people called Kai > are most definitely male. So is Heiko Essfeldt. And my Finnish is > well, let's just be polite and call it extremely rudimentary, but I think > Matti is a guy's n

Re: [issues] Linux Mag: 50 Linux People to Watch

1999-11-30 Thread franzoni
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Robert Kiesling wrote: > > Well, documentation is a very big issue, and I think people working in > > that field _do_ aid free software. Even Stallman said that ;-) > > But that doesn't help in your quest Andries Brouwer, > Matt Welsh, ESR... a few others... all of us m

Re: [issues] Linux Mag: 50 Linux People to Watch

1999-11-30 Thread franzoni
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Caitlyn M. Martin wrote: > The sad thing is, the leaders of the Linux community think that 2% is a high > number, and reality is closer to 1%. That is the figure Bob Young used (99% male) > in his Linux Journal interview, and it is also the number Phil Hughes used in that >

Re: [issues] Linux Mag: 50 Linux People to Watch

1999-11-30 Thread franzoni
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Robert Kiesling wrote: > In all seriousness, what would the criteria be? You could include the > editor of Linux Journal, but they're competitors (is she related to > you?), or the people who've organized the greatly successful Linux > conferences, even though they also have

Re: [issues] Linux Mag: 50 Linux People to Watch

1999-11-30 Thread franzoni
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Robert Kiesling wrote: > Andrea as a male name is common in some countries. Italy is one > of them. Andrea's a bloke. You're not the first to make this mistake: > I think it's quite common. :) > > That's been pointed out to me already, but I somehow my reply

Re: [issues] Hey people

1999-11-17 Thread franzoni
On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > For those of you who may NOT have heard yet, I've been rather quiet lately > because a) I was fired from Linuxcare on Wednesday (for no good reason > other than saying I was dissatisfied with my compensation) and b) I've > been really ill since. In fa