From: David Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:35:24PM +1200, Penguina wrote:
> >
> > Use a male pseudonym when publishing code and helpful advice to
> > lists.
>
> The problem with this is that it perpetuates the belief that women
> cannot compete in the field. We need to
Jenn,
Well, if American teenage college movies showed
the good side of fraternities and sororities, I don't
think that they would be too entertaining. Just keep
in mind that there are two sides to every coin.
Dan
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> Daniel Bravo wrote:
>
>
> > I am in a l
Hang it up, James. Just because the EC has misinterpreted a
Human Rights Code to mean that businesses can't do anything to
prevent misuse of their own equipment doesn't make it a human
rights violation to monitor computer usage.
It is interesting that the one person I had to let go for
excessi
Thanks Jen..
> > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:35:24PM +1200, Penguina wrote:
> >> Use a male pseudonym when publishing code and helpful advice to
> >> lists.
> David Merrill wrote:
> > The problem with this is that it perpetuates the belief that women
> > cannot compete in the field. We need to
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 09:55:47AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> David Merrill wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:35:24PM +1200, Penguina wrote:
> >
> >> Use a male pseudonym when publishing code and helpful advice to
> >> lists.
> >
> >
> > The problem with this is that it perpetuate
Daniel Bravo wrote:
> I am in a latino frat. We work towards the upliftment
> of underprivileged latino youngsters as well as
> adults. In the 20 years that my frat has been in
> existance (our Alpha chapter being in Cornell), we
> have never had an incident where we were accused of
> raping a
James Sutherland wrote:
> The approach you seem to advocate is "let companies do WTF they want, and
> to hell with people's rights".
I'm not sure where this started, but it looks to me like both
sides are either arguing for the extreme, or accusing the other of
arguing for the extreme.
Let's
Let's take a look at the basic contract - not the legal contract,
but the social contract of employment:
"I (employee) will give up some of my time and freedom and work for
you for a set number of hours, doing a set group of tasks.
In exchange, you (employer) will give up some of your money, will
David Merrill wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:35:24PM +1200, Penguina wrote:
>
>> Use a male pseudonym when publishing code and helpful advice to
>> lists.
>
>
> The problem with this is that it perpetuates the belief that women
> cannot compete in the field. We need to see women writing a
Boy are you going to be shocked when reality smacks
you in the face. First and foremost, your daughter
will not be completely safe no matter where you send
her. Even if its an all girls school. The reality of
the matter is that she can experience that horrible
thing called rape, sexual harrassm
At 17:28 30/05/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> But not while you're on my payroll, and not using my equipment and not
> >> using my telephone, and not using my internet connection. I, as a
> >> private employer, have every right to monitor what goes on with my
>stuff,
> >> including wha
Hi, James, and everyone else,
Actually, you're both guilty here. In some posts you didn't specify, and
both of you have pontificated as if you are talking about some sort of
universal law. I called "Penguina" on it, so I'd be remiss if I didn't do
the same to you.
>> But not while you're on m
On 30 May 2001, Kristin M. Fitzsimmons wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2001 07:47:09 +1200 (NZST) Penguina
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The other problem with frats we saw at Cornell was date
> > rape, gang rape and drug rape (since that's what getting
> > a girl so drunk that she can't defend he
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Penguina wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2001, James Sutherland wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 May 2001, Penguina wrote:
> > > > At 5/29/01 06:02 AM , James Sutherland wrote:
> > No - the very first post made it clear the discussion related to the EU.
> > You then wade in saying "No you're de
At 5/30/01 01:11 PM , Penguina wrote:
>On Wed, 30 May 2001, James Sutherland wrote:
>
> > i.e. don't mention it to the people whose human rights she's violating, or
> > the employer who'll fire her for doing so, or the police who would fine
> > the company into the ground for allowing her to do so
On Thu, 31 May 2001 07:47:09 +1200 (NZST) Penguina
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The other problem with frats we saw at Cornell was date
> rape, gang rape and drug rape (since that's what getting
> a girl so drunk that she can't defend herself IS).
> Schools at which the greek system HAS been
On Wed, 30 May 2001, James Sutherland wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2001, Penguina wrote:
> > > At 5/29/01 06:02 AM , James Sutherland wrote:
> > >
> > > >The *US* courts, you mean? I'm talking about *EU* law. That's the whole
> > > >point: this is legal in the US, but NOT in the EU. One of the few a
On 30 May 2001, Kristin M. Fitzsimmons wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2001 05:56:53 +1200 (NZST) Penguina
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe the above
> comments were actually thanking James for his comments on
> the US system as a whole (re: Second Amend
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 05:56:53AM +1200, penguina sed:
> If the EU has its head so far up its hindquarters that it doesn't
> allow private employers to monitor and regulate the use of company
> infrastructure, then no wonder the EU is so far uh..."behind."
This kind of nationalistic attitude d
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:35:24PM +1200, Penguina wrote:
>
> Use a male pseudonym when publishing code and helpful advice to
> lists.
The problem with this is that it perpetuates the belief that women
cannot compete in the field. We need to see women writing and
producing publicly, not behind p
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Penguina wrote:
> > At 5/29/01 06:02 AM , James Sutherland wrote:
> >
> > >The *US* courts, you mean? I'm talking about *EU* law. That's the whole
> > >point: this is legal in the US, but NOT in the EU. One of the few areas
> > >the EU has got it right, IMHO - for the most par
On Thu, 31 May 2001 05:56:53 +1200 (NZST) Penguina
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And of course, I sometimes wonder if I just think our
> > system is basically okay because it's what I've been
> > taught since I was just a wee tot. So, thanks for the
> > outside input, James. It really does
> At 5/29/01 06:02 AM , James Sutherland wrote:
>
> >The *US* courts, you mean? I'm talking about *EU* law. That's the whole
> >point: this is legal in the US, but NOT in the EU. One of the few areas
> >the EU has got it right, IMHO - for the most part, I think I prefer the US
> >system (2nd am
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