Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving upprogramming(wasgamesfor girls)

1999-10-08 Thread jenn
Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > Frankly, I think one of the reasons that so many women aren't coders in > open source is that it IS intimidating. People with people skills learn > that there's a lot of grey areas in dealing with people. Unfortunately, > computers always do exactly what you tell them to

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving up programming(wasgames for girls)

1999-10-08 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 8-Oct-99 Re: [issues] Good and bad r.. by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Also, is anyone participating in an open source project right > now that they feel is really well-managed and organized? (So we > can look at it as an example?) Yep. www.worldforge.org > Just for fun, I th

Re: [issues] Mime-Version: 1.0

1999-10-08 Thread Aaron Malone
> http://wm.themes.org/themes.phtml?themeid=939267880 is the theme stats... > i can't believe it's rated "excellent" > > i have seen this picture before... i wish i could remember where hehe... there's a version on as.themes.org that has been updated to "Linux 2.2". :) -- Aaron Malone ([EMAIL

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving upprogramming(wasgames for girls)

1999-10-08 Thread Aaron Malone
> > >Last night, I was so deep in hack mode, I didn't realize it was 8:30. I > > >just thought everyone had gone off somewhere at work. :) I've been doing this a lot recently.. so much so that I'm starting to speak in Perl to non-hackers. :) I stop when my eyes get too blurry to read my 5x7 ema

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving upprogramming(wasgamesfor girls)

1999-10-08 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote: > On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:40:00 -0700 (PDT), Deirdre Saoirse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >Last night, I was so deep in hack mode, I didn't realize it was 8:30. I > >just thought everyone had gone off somewhere at work. :) > > See, this is what I can'

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving upprogramming(wasgames for girls)

1999-10-08 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:40:00 -0700 (PDT), Deirdre Saoirse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Last night, I was so deep in hack mode, I didn't realize it was 8:30. I >just thought everyone had gone off somewhere at work. :) See, this is what I can't do anymore. I used to be able to get into this kind of

Re: [issues] Mime-Version: 1.0

1999-10-08 Thread Nicole
> http://wm.themes.org/php/pic.phtml?src=themes/wm/shots/939267880.jpg http://wm.themes.org/themes.phtml?themeid=939267880 is the theme stats... i can't believe it's rated "excellent" i have seen this picture before... i wish i could remember where > hmmph..someone want to make a linuxchix them

Re: [issues] MS again...

1999-10-08 Thread Jack Baker
When you consider that M$ is paying the testing labs to do the benchmarking, whose product do you think is going to come out on top? What amazed me is that the article regarding this was posted on ZDnetI had to dig on M$'s website to find the actual page. It kinda reminds me of right befo

Re: [issues] Mime-Version: 1.0

1999-10-08 Thread Vinnie Surmonde
On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Naomi Hospodarsky wrote: > I am fully apalled. This sort of thing in the Linux/computer world has > been bugging me a lot lately. I really resent a lot of the advertisements, > etc. that use "beautiful" women as vehicles for selling the computer > culture. ARGH! Perhaps s

RE: [issues] MS again...

1999-10-08 Thread Kristina
P.S. Raster is debunking the Linux Myths on his page, for those who may be interested: http://www.rasterman.com/raster/ I just noticed this when I went to check out the "linuxchick" theme that Naomi (hi, Naomi!) just mentioned... Kristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxch

Re: [issues] MS again...

1999-10-08 Thread Kristina
On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Jack Baker wrote: > Just saw this on ZDnetMicro$oft is again slamming Linux. Now that the > Justice Dept investigations are over, hee is the newest release from there > website. Love to here what y'all think. It's flattering, in a way. In a make-me-kind-of-sick-to-m

RE: [issues] MS again...

1999-10-08 Thread Nicole
> http://www.microsoft.com/NTServer/nts/news/msnw/linuxmyths.asp isn't it natural for a bully to get over-aggressive to "compensate" for it's shortcomings? ;o) all of MS' fud about how bad linux/open source is just goes to show that they are scared pantsless about linux as a threat to their exis

Re: [issues] MS again...

1999-10-08 Thread Just This Girl
The point that struck me was their TCO (total customer cost) comparison. They claimed that TCO went beyond licensing (buying) the OS. This is true for UNIX. Most commercial UNIX dists charge for support. This is true for NT. Microsoft -definately- charges for support. I can find it believable t

[issues] Mime-Version: 1.0

1999-10-08 Thread Naomi Hospodarsky
Hi. I'm new to the group, just found the website yesterday, and I'm very glad its here! I've never met another woman who knows a thing about LINUX so this is very refreshing. Anyway, has anyone seen the new "linuxchick" theme for Enlightenment on themes.org. I am fully apalled. This sort of th

RE: [issues] MS again...

1999-10-08 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Rikki McGinty wrote: > I think Microsoft should shut the hell up and attend to all the viruses and > bugs infesting NT. Go Rikki! :) And hi there. :) -- _Deirdre * http://www.linuxcabal.net * http://www.deirdre.net "Mars has been a tough target" -- Peter G. Neumann

RE: [issues] MS again...

1999-10-08 Thread Rikki McGinty
I think Microsoft should shut the hell up and attend to all the viruses and bugs infesting NT. rikki > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Jack Baker > Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 5:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [issues] MS

[issues] MS again...

1999-10-08 Thread Jack Baker
Just saw this on ZDnetMicro$oft is again slamming Linux. Now that the Justice Dept investigations are over, hee is the newest release from there website. Love to here what y'all think. http://www.microsoft.com/NTServer/nts/news/msnw/linuxmyths.asp Personally I think it is a load of Horse

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving up programming(wasgames for girls)

1999-10-08 Thread kathy_giori
Jenn wrote: >> >> Write your best specifications for the bits you aren't doing right now, >> and find out the accepted way to advertise for helpers for open source >> projects. Could anyone clue me in on the "accepted way" to advertise an open source project? Also, is anyone participating in an

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving upprogramming(wasgames for girls)

1999-10-08 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Programming is possible. Not being intimidated is much harder than > programming. But it's like that 'journey of a thousand miles' - or like > spring-cleaning. Pick a step you know you /can/ take, and take that one. > Then the next. Then the next. Aft

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving upprogramming(wasgames for girls)

1999-10-08 Thread jenn
"Deidre L. Calarco" wrote: > > Good advice - it's mostly a matter of breaking it down. I've just got to > stop being so intimidated. NOW you're asking yourself to do the impossible. :) Programming is possible. Not being intimidated is much harder than programming. But it's like that 'journey

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving up programming(wasgames for girls)

1999-10-08 Thread Deidre L. Calarco
Good advice - it's mostly a matter of breaking it down. I've just got to stop being so intimidated. >> I was thinking in terms of a structural design >> plug-in for a CAD program. But, yeah, it's probably way out of reach. It's >> pretty much just a fantasy at this point - not a realistic thi