Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-23 Thread Wez Furlong
I don't mind working towards this; I don't have time to implement much in the way of the front-end, but if someone else could do that, I'll certainly look through their patches and get it up and running on the various machines that need it. --Wez. On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:43:12 -0800, Andi Gutmans

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-22 Thread Andi Gutmans
I know lots of people are away or busy because of the holidays. Hopefully this topic won't be forgotten. Assuming there's agreement it'd be great to see a couple of volunteers who could help with the technical aspects of this. Andi At 07:06 PM 12/19/2004 -0800, Andi Gutmans wrote: Personally, I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-19 Thread Wez Furlong
I'm +1 on expanding/enhancing our system with more designated "karma crews" for the various sub-projects. It shouldn't be too difficult to add a karma-granting interface to masterweb; move the ACLs into the database and either generate an ACL file in the current format, or tweak the ACL script to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-19 Thread Andi Gutmans
Personally, I don't see any advantage to keeping the karma requests to group@ only but only disadvantages. I think it'd make more sense to distribute the load and have sub-groups that handle the different requests. For example, PEAR, Pecl, PHP docs, and core. This would make sure that we are not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Olivier Hill
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: That's a lot less critical. I ran a sweep a couple of years ago that deleted a couple of hundred old unused accounts. At some point I will run another one, but having unused accounts sitting around really doesn't affect us in any way. Except for a security point of view.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Sean Coates
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Correct, you can't go by CVS commits alone. The doc notes group of people never touch CVS but since we don't want to have multiple account management systems we just use the same one. So they all have CVS accounts. Some of them have karma and some of them don't. This is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Nuno Lopes
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: That's a lot less critical. I ran a sweep a couple of years ago that deleted a couple of hundred old unused accounts. At some point I will run another one, but having unused accounts sitting around really doesn't affect us in any way. Except for a security point of view.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Olivier Hill
Hello again, Well, I don't like the voting system either. I agree that it is perhaps too much work for nothing at the end. But what I don't like is the fact that some people might always vote negatively. It's hard around here to "prove" that you can really help the project (or anything related

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Olivier Hill wrote: Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: That's a lot less critical. I ran a sweep a couple of years ago that deleted a couple of hundred old unused accounts. At some point I will run another one, but having unused accounts sitting around really doesn't affect us in any way. Except for a sec

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Well, we have clearly gone away from the cvs account delay problem to some other problem. Which real problem are you trying to solve here? I don't like work just for the sake of work. I see no tangible benefit in doing a lot of work just to reduce the number of idle accounts. -Rasmus Nuno L

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Nuno Lopes
And what about a voting system? We would login at master server and vote/comment like in pear/pecl proposals. Nuno - Original Message - Which in itself is not a big deal. And I reject more than I approve actually. For a while I tried to verify each one with the documentation project

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Which in itself is not a big deal. And I reject more than I approve actually. For a while I tried to verify each one with the documentation project leads, but half the time they wouldn't respond. I am not sure how other people would do a better job vetting these folks. If they don't contrib

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Nuno Lopes
Are you sure? I know that there are some guys that use their account like a free e-mail account redirection. This is because you 'offer' accounts to everybody that wants to join the doc team. Your idea to out-source karma would be good to handle this problems... (I remember to read a mail in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
That's a lot less critical. I ran a sweep a couple of years ago that deleted a couple of hundred old unused accounts. At some point I will run another one, but having unused accounts sitting around really doesn't affect us in any way. -Rasmus Nuno Lopes wrote: And deletion of current cvs acco

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-16 Thread Nuno Lopes
And deletion of current cvs accounts? I've run some stats 6 months ago, and about 50% of phpdoc cvs accounts were never used... Nuno - Original Message - I'd love to outsource that part, but we'd need to modify the tools a bit. Anyway, there was a backlog of 39 cvs account requests. I w

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] CVS karma

2004-12-15 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
I'd love to outsource that part, but we'd need to modify the tools a bit. Anyway, there was a backlog of 39 cvs account requests. I went through them all and approved about a third of them. -Rasmus Alan Knowles wrote: I'm not sure if it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the best place