Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-10-21 Thread Jakub Zelenka
On Thu, 21 Oct 2021, 22:46 Nikita Popov, wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:42 PM Jakub Zelenka wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 4:07 PM Nikita Popov >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm proposing the following label structure (the list at >>> https://github.com/nikic/test-repo/labels is incomplete tho

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-10-21 Thread Nikita Popov
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:42 PM Jakub Zelenka wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 4:07 PM Nikita Popov wrote: > >> >> I'm proposing the following label structure (the list at >> https://github.com/nikic/test-repo/labels is incomplete though): Each >> report has either a bug or feature label. Addit

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-10-21 Thread Jakub Zelenka
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 4:07 PM Nikita Popov wrote: > > I'm proposing the following label structure (the list at > https://github.com/nikic/test-repo/labels is incomplete though): Each > report has either a bug or feature label. Additionally it starts out with > the T-needs-triage label. Once a p

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-10-21 Thread Nikita Popov
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 8:49 AM Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning internals, > > We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to > waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a > common, daily occurrence. We clearly don't have time for this. > > Quite

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-10 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 10.05.2021 at 15:39, Andreas Heigl wrote: > Hey All > > Am 10.05.21 um 14:44 schrieb Alexander Kurilo via internals: >> On 09/05/2021 09:48, Joe Watkins wrote: >>> Morning internals, >>> >>> We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to >>> waste time deleting 20 odd m

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-10 Thread Remi Collet
Le 09/05/2021 à 08:48, Joe Watkins a écrit : Having moved our workflow to github, now seems to be the time to seriously consider retiring bugsnet for general use, and using the tools that are waiting for us - Github Issues. Please NO This mean we will drop ownership on all data and history ab

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-10 Thread Andreas Heigl
Hey All Am 10.05.21 um 14:44 schrieb Alexander Kurilo via internals: > On 09/05/2021 09:48, Joe Watkins wrote: >> Morning internals, >> >> We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to >> waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a >> common,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-10 Thread Alexander Kurilo via internals
On 09/05/2021 09:48, Joe Watkins wrote: Morning internals, We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a common, daily occurrence. We clearly don't have time for this. Quite aside from spam probl

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-10 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 8:49 AM Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning internals, > > We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to > waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a > common, daily occurrence. We clearly don't have time for this. > > Quite

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-09 Thread Mike Schinkel
> On May 9, 2021, at 4:58 AM, Rowan Tommins wrote: > > On 9 May 2021 08:33:08 BST, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> It is not good that our infrastructure is "hidden away in a dark >> corner", and it is true that bugs needs some TLC for a while. But >> Github >> Issues frankly sucks big time as a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-09 Thread Levi Morrison
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 8:26 AM Larry Garfield wrote: > > On Sun, May 9, 2021, at 1:48 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > > Morning internals, > > > > We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to > > waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a > > comm

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-09 Thread Wim Godden
On 9/05/2021 8:48, Joe Watkins wrote: I'm aware that bugsnet serves as the disclosure method for security bugs and github doesn't have a solution to that. Leaving that to one side for now ... Just want to weigh in on this item (also mentioned by Stanislav as an important issue). Although Github

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-09 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hi, > Having moved our workflow to github, now seems to be the time to seriously > consider retiring bugsnet for general use, and using the tools that are > waiting for us - Github Issues. > +1, I have been dealing with bugsnet quite a bit as part of maintaining openssl ext and FPM and it really

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-09 Thread Larry Garfield
On Sun, May 9, 2021, at 1:48 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning internals, > > We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to > waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a > common, daily occurrence. We clearly don't have time for this. > > Qui

RE: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-09 Thread André Hänsel
You're talking about bugs.php.net, right? If you decide to move it, please leave the old one online in readonly mode. It's a valuable documentation resource. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-09 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Den søn. 9. maj 2021 kl. 09.49 skrev Joe Watkins : > > Morning internals, > > We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to > waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a > common, daily occurrence. We clearly don't have time for this. Big +1

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-08 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 09.05.2021 um 08:48 schrieb Joe Watkins: Having moved our workflow to github, now seems to be the time to seriously consider retiring bugsnet for general use, and using the tools that are waiting for us - Github Issues. Yes, please. Thank you for proposing this! I propose that we disable b

[PHP-DEV] Bugsnet

2021-05-08 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning internals, We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a common, daily occurrence. We clearly don't have time for this. Quite aside from spam problems, bugsnet is hidden away in a dark corn

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-18 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 18.07.2019 at 16:25, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 6:10 AM Christoph M. Becker > wrote: > >> I agree that this would be the best solution in the long run, and it >> shouldn't be hard to adapt ReasonRepository[1] to read from a file >> instead of the DB. >> >> Any volunteers? >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-18 Thread Sara Golemon
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 6:10 AM Christoph M. Becker wrote: > I agree that this would be the best solution in the long run, and it > shouldn't be hard to adapt ReasonRepository[1] to read from a file > instead of the DB. > > Any volunteers? > > [1] > < > http://git.php.net/?p=web/bugs.git;a=blob;f

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-18 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Thu, 2019-07-18 at 12:24 +0100, Peter Cowburn wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone other than us is still using this source code > (looking at the MySQL guys). If not, can we just include the reasons > in > the source directly, and forget about the database or a special file > containing the reasons

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-18 Thread Pieter Hordijk
Hey all, I think we can just add the reasons to the file where it is being rendered. I am off for the weekend, but I can implement and test this after the weekend if nobody else picked it up by then. Pieter - Original Message - > From: "Peter Cowburn" > On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 12:10, Ch

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-18 Thread Peter Cowburn
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 12:10, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > On 18.07.2019 at 01:14, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > >> the quick fix descriptions of bugs.php.net[1] need some update. To my > >> knowledge, these come from the database, so could anybody with access to > >> it please take a look? > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-18 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 18.07.2019 at 01:14, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> the quick fix descriptions of bugs.php.net[1] need some update. To my >> knowledge, these come from the database, so could anybody with access to >> it please take a look? > > Ideally, I think this should be in PHP file and not database, so it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-17 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > the quick fix descriptions of bugs.php.net[1] need some update. To my > knowledge, these come from the database, so could anybody with access to > it please take a look? Ideally, I think this should be in PHP file and not database, so it will be modifyable by project members without needin

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-17 Thread Sara Golemon
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 4:19 AM Christoph M. Becker wrote: > the quick fix descriptions of bugs.php.net[1] need some update. To my > knowledge, these come from the database, so could anybody with access to > it please take a look? > > Yep. bugdb_resolves table. How about though, instead of requi

[PHP-DEV] Bugsnet: Quick fix descriptions

2019-07-17 Thread Christoph M. Becker
Hi all, the quick fix descriptions of bugs.php.net[1] need some update. To my knowledge, these come from the database, so could anybody with access to it please take a look? Details: * Try a snapshot There are no snapshots (except for Windows) any longer; it might make sense to refer to Git.

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-18 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning Ferenc, That was a good read, and echos my thoughts in places. I never intended to do anything without explanation, that would obviously have to be provided. What I was hoping to extract from this conversation is some criteria for the updating of bugs: What we actually consider old, what

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-18 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning internals, > > Some of you may have noticed that a few of us have put considerable effort > into cleanup of pull requests on github, these are now manageable and I'm > quite confident that we will be able to merge pull requests in a tim

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Maciej Sobaczewski
W dniu 17.01.2017 o 18:47, Niklas Keller pisze: 2017-01-17 18:22 GMT+01:00 Andreas Heigl : Hi All. Am 17.01.17 um 17:51 schrieb Christoph M. Becker: On 17.01.2017 at 17:35, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: People can now cross-reference issues, discuss, get notifications, and have some simplified/

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Niklas Keller
2017-01-17 18:22 GMT+01:00 Andreas Heigl : > Hi All. > > Am 17.01.17 um 17:51 schrieb Christoph M. Becker: > > On 17.01.2017 at 17:35, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > > >>> People can now cross-reference issues, discuss, get notifications, and > >>> have some simplified/readable markup. > >> > >> Al

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread David Lundgren
On 1/17/17 10:39 AM, Marco Pivetta wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Stanislav Malyshev > wrote: > >> What prevents you from being able to create proper issues on bugs.php.net? > > Nothing: it's just a forgotten corner of the web, like our Jira was. Why not put a link to bugs.php.net in

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Andreas Heigl
Hi All. Am 17.01.17 um 17:51 schrieb Christoph M. Becker: > On 17.01.2017 at 17:35, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > >>> People can now cross-reference issues, discuss, get notifications, and >>> have some simplified/readable markup. >> >> All this, except for markup, is available on bugs.php.net. And

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > Well, what is missing is a simple means to ping another developer – > currently the only way to do so is assigning the ticket to them, but > that's not always appropriate. True. Should not be hard to implement though I think. -- Stas Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com -- PHP Internals - PHP R

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > Nothing: it's just a forgotten corner of the web, like our Jira was. I'm sorry, I don't get this "forgotten corner" thing. What exactly is missing there - glitter? Celebrity endorsements? We have a fully functional tool, easy to use and available to anybody that needs it. We do not have to

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 17.01.2017 at 17:35, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> People can now cross-reference issues, discuss, get notifications, and >> have some simplified/readable markup. > > All this, except for markup, is available on bugs.php.net. And I don't > think markup is that important - I'm pretty sure one ca

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Marco Pivetta
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > What prevents you from being able to create proper issues on bugs.php.net? > Nothing: it's just a forgotten corner of the web, like our Jira was. Marco Pivetta http://twitter.com/Ocramius http://ocramius.github.com/

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > People can now cross-reference issues, discuss, get notifications, and > have some simplified/readable markup. All this, except for markup, is available on bugs.php.net. And I don't think markup is that important - I'm pretty sure one can discuss bugs in plain text. > For the 99% of develo

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Marco Pivetta
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > > I'm sorry I don't understand this. How bugs.php.net is not open? > > I said it is open, but it's not being used, it's not in your face like > github is for a lot of us, it's in a "dark corner of the internet". > We (doctrine project, in thi

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-17 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning Stas :) > True, but some people can not write an RFC, or not ready to do it, > however they still can request and discuss features. They can do that, but they can also start a discussion on internals if they want to encourage someone else to do their work for them. The RFC document alrea

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-16 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > A lot of the time a feature request is just not enough; it requires at > least a good discussion, if not an RFC. True, but some people can not write an RFC, or not ready to do it, however they still can request and discuss features. > That there were feature requests open on bugsnet for mo

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-09 Thread Jakub Zelenka
On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Andreas Heigl wrote: > Hi Jakub. > > Am 09.01.17 um 10:59 schrieb Jakub Zelenka: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Remi Collet > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Le 08/01/2017 à 07:46, Joe Watkins a écrit : > >> > >>> I'd like to hear what others think

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-09 Thread Jakub Zelenka
On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 09/01/2017 à 10:59, Jakub Zelenka a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Remi Collet > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Le 08/01/2017 à 07:46, Joe Watkins a écrit : > >> > >>> I'd like to hear what others think about cleani

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-09 Thread Andreas Heigl
Hi Jakub. Am 09.01.17 um 10:59 schrieb Jakub Zelenka: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Le 08/01/2017 à 07:46, Joe Watkins a écrit : >> >>> I'd like to hear what others think about cleaning up bugsnet, what >> criteria >>> we might use for a mass cleanu

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-09 Thread Remi Collet
Le 09/01/2017 à 10:59, Jakub Zelenka a écrit : > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Le 08/01/2017 à 07:46, Joe Watkins a écrit : >> >>> I'd like to hear what others think about cleaning up bugsnet, what >> criteria >>> we might use for a mass cleanup. >> >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-09 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hi, On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > Hi, > > Le 08/01/2017 à 07:46, Joe Watkins a écrit : > > > I'd like to hear what others think about cleaning up bugsnet, what > criteria > > we might use for a mass cleanup. > > Big +1 for a mass cleanup. > > IMHO all bugs reported against

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning Remi, +1 on those criteria and ideas about commenting then closing ... How long between commenting and closing do you think there should be ? Kalle is going to get access to the bugsnet box, maybe he could get you access (if you've time to get directly involved, I super hope you have) ?

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Remi Collet
Hi, Le 08/01/2017 à 07:46, Joe Watkins a écrit : > I'd like to hear what others think about cleaning up bugsnet, what criteria > we might use for a mass cleanup. Big +1 for a mass cleanup. IMHO all bugs reported against PHP < 5.6 could be cleaned. Perhaps something close to the Fedora bugs pro

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning Kalle, > I would like some more statuses for the bug tracker +1 go for it Cleanup of code/statuses is also desirable ... and you have volunteered to do it :D Cheers Joe On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > Morning Joe > > 2017-01-09 7:13 GMT+01:00 Joe Watkins

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Morning Joe 2017-01-09 7:13 GMT+01:00 Joe Watkins : > The problem with accepting feature requests on bugsnet is that, most of the > time, nobody can implement them because of modern processes. > > It's not harmful to us, but it is harmful to the person requesting the > feature, who is probably ign

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning Stas, > I think we have to separate FRs and bugs. Bugs filed against older > versions (especially ones before 5.5) I'd put into feedback with request > to retest with more recent version. Feedback bugs would automatically > expire if no feedback was provided. This sounds reasonable. > FR

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > Some of you may have noticed that a few of us have put considerable effort > into cleanup of pull requests on github, these are now manageable and I'm > quite confident that we will be able to merge pull requests in a timely > manner, and stay on top of it. I would like to start with a big

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > I'd even go as far as saying that any bug reported for PHP < 5.6 can be > marked as "Won't fix". The bugs targeting 5.6 need to be checked whether > they have a security implication and if not they should be also marked > as "Won't fix" Lots of people run 5.5 now. I'd say at least about 2/3

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Andreas Heigl
Hi all. Am 08.01.17 um 11:29 schrieb Nikita Popov: > On Jan 8, 2017 7:47 AM, "Joe Watkins" wrote: > > Morning internals, […] > > With normal support for 5 ended, now is the perfect time to cleanup > bugsnet. If we can get the numbers down to something manageable, we have a > reasonable expectat

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Joe Watkins
Afternoon Nikita, ACK, we should of course use appropriate status ... I have only closed a few so far before I thought a discussion is probably in order, so no harm done. Cheers Joe On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Jan 8, 2017 7:47 AM, "Joe Watkins" wrote: > > Morning

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Nikita Popov
On Jan 8, 2017 7:47 AM, "Joe Watkins" wrote: Morning internals, Some of you may have noticed that a few of us have put considerable effort into cleanup of pull requests on github, these are now manageable and I'm quite confident that we will be able to merge pull requests in a timely manner, and

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-08 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 08.01.2017 um 07:46 schrieb Joe Watkins: > I think any bug report opened against 4 and not updated is useless. +1 > I think anything with a patch attached targeting 5 is useless, regardless > of age; they should be encouraged to open a pull request on github against > a supported branch. +1

[PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup

2017-01-07 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning internals, Some of you may have noticed that a few of us have put considerable effort into cleanup of pull requests on github, these are now manageable and I'm quite confident that we will be able to merge pull requests in a timely manner, and stay on top of it. When it comes to bugsnet,