Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-15 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi, According to voting result, phpng was merged into master and the version number was bumped to 7.0.0-dev. Thanks to contributors, testers, bloggers, voters and everyone evolved :) Thanks. Dmitry. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I opened the voting on the phpng RFC: >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-13 Thread Pascal MARTIN
Le 06/08/2014 14:36, Zeev Suraski a écrit : I opened the voting on the phpng RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpng#vote Voting ends on Thursday, August 14th. After speaking with other members of AFUP (French user-group) about this RFC, here's a short summary of our thoughts: The idea of (

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-12 Thread Levi Morrison
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RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-07 Thread Pierre Joye
On Aug 7, 2014 8:13 AM, "Christian Stoller" wrote: > > From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > >> > >> On 6 Aug 2014, at 14:26, Pierre Joye wrote: > >> > >>> For the exts I tried while I was testing/fixing phpng a couple of > >>>

RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Christian Stoller
From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> >> On 6 Aug 2014, at 14:26, Pierre Joye wrote: >> >>> For the exts I tried while I was testing/fixing phpng a couple of >>> weeks ago, I'd to say that maintaining the same code base for phpn

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Dmitry Stogov
; between > > PHP 5.x and PHPNG. Dmitry - please correct me if I'm wrong... > > > > Zeev > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Dan Ackroyd [mailto:dan...@basereality.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:01 PM > >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Dan Ackroyd > wrote: > >> Hi Zeev, >> >> >I have no problem with changing this >> >habit, but I do have an issue with changing it retroactively for a >> >particular vote. >> >> Agreed, changing rules ret

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > Hi Zeev, > > >I have no problem with changing this > >habit, but I do have an issue with changing it retroactively for a > >particular vote. > > Agreed, changing rules retroactively is bad. Considering improving > practices for the future is go

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Dan Ackroyd
ckroyd [mailto:dan...@basereality.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:01 PM >> To: Zeev Suraski >> Cc: PHP internals >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master >> >> Hi, >> >> It would be good if people announced that they were

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > On 6 Aug 2014, at 14:26, Pierre Joye wrote: > >> For the exts I tried while I was testing/fixing phpng a couple of >> weeks ago, I'd to say that maintaining the same code base for phpng >> and 5.x is simply too hard, way too many APIs chang

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 6 Aug 2014, at 14:26, Pierre Joye wrote: > For the exts I tried while I was testing/fixing phpng a couple of > weeks ago, I'd to say that maintaining the same code base for phpng > and 5.x is simply too hard, way too many APIs changes, many of them > cannot be detected at compile time, introd

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> Dan, >> >> Votes area almost never pre-announced. I have no problem with changing >> this >> habit, but I do have an issue with changing it retroactively for a >> particular vote. >> >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Lester Caine
On 06/08/14 14:11, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I believe it's impractical to keep shared codebases for extensions between > PHP 5.x and PHPNG. Dmitry - please correct me if I'm wrong... Do we actually have a list of what is NOT going to work once this happens? I am still not in a position to test phpng

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Dmitry Stogov
s. Dmitry. > > Zeev > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dan Ackroyd [mailto:dan...@basereality.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:01 PM > > To: Zeev Suraski > > Cc: PHP internals > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to

RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: Derick Rethans [mailto:der...@php.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:57 PM > To: Dmitry Stogov > Cc: Andrea Faulds; Zeev Suraski; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master > > That's ok - h

RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
sereality.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:01 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master > > Hi, > > It would be good if people announced that they were going to open things > to > vote with a warni

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Fully agree with Andrea. I don't think there's a point in debating the > majority question to no end, because ultimately, it's open for > interpretation. I feel very, very confident about my interpretation - for > reasons I explained already

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Dan Ackroyd
Hi, It would be good if people announced that they were going to open things to vote with a warning, rather than just throwing the voting open. The RFC is nowhere complete in it's details for people to make rational decisions. e.g. the section on 'RFC impact' has this for the impact on extensions

RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:a...@ajf.me] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:51 PM > To: Jonny Stirling > Cc: Zeev Suraski; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master > > > On 6 Aug 2014, at 13:47, Jon

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > > On 6 Aug 2014, at 13:36, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > > I opened the voting on the phpng RFC: > > > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpng#vote > > > > > > Voting ends on Thursday, August 14th.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > On 6 Aug 2014, at 13:36, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > I opened the voting on the phpng RFC: > > > > > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpng#vote > > > > > > > > Voting ends on Thursday, August 14th. > > I voted Yes, but I have to ask: Is there

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi Andrea, On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > On 6 Aug 2014, at 13:36, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > I opened the voting on the phpng RFC: > > > > > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpng#vote > > > > > > > > Voting ends on Thursday, August 14th. > > I voted Yes, but I have to

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 6 Aug 2014, at 13:47, Jonny Stirling wrote: > I love how you've just completely ignored any previous discussion around > the required majority issue. Has it really been *ignored*? Just because someone wants something doesn’t mean you have to give it. Under Zeev’s (and as it so happens, my)

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Zeev, On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > On 6 Aug 2014, at 13:36, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> I opened the voting on the phpng RFC: >> >> >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpng#vote >> >> >> >> Voting ends on Thursday, August 14th. > > I voted Yes, but I have to ask: Is there

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Jonny Stirling
Zeev, I love how you've just completely ignored any previous discussion around the required majority issue. It's is certainly enlightening that questions specifically directed at you in multiple threads have gone unanswered when trying to work out which is actually required. Instead, you just take

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 6 Aug 2014, at 13:36, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I opened the voting on the phpng RFC: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpng#vote > > > > Voting ends on Thursday, August 14th. I voted Yes, but I have to ask: Is there anything in master that’s not in phpng, i.e., is it completely up-to-dat

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master

2014-08-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
I opened the voting on the phpng RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpng#vote Voting ends on Thursday, August 14th. Please vote! Zeev