On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Paul Dragoonis wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:22 PM, David Zülke
> wrote:
> > On 29.06.2011, at 22:20, Paul Dragoonis wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Ralph Schindler
> wrote:
> >>> Correct.
> >>>
> >>> I was hasty in that example, the first
ay_filter() with an appropriate
> callback? Should handle it like you describe plinq does it, right?
>
>
>
Jarrod
I think is a very good idea.
Which you think the syntax will be for...
* multiples arguments
* multiples sentences
* no return value
closures could be kind of wordy but they are very clear about those.
Martin Scotta
> Regards,
> Stefan
>
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> On 06/23/2011 05:17 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote:
> > Personally, I don't care for the concept of a block scope. I do
> > understand that it can have benefits and make certain tasks easier.
> &g
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Paul Dragoonis wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Stefan Neufeind
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've lately discu
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've lately discussed with a colleague which scopes of variables exist
> > for PHP or would probably make se
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote:
> > No default values, other then NULL allowed.
> > Otherwise we would need to support array("classname", "methodname")
> > too, and then people would want default array values
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Alexey Shein wrote:
> 2011/6/8 Hannes Magnusson :
> > We have the situation in the docs that parameters declared as arrays
> > do not follow the typehinting rules, but parameters as class names do.
> > Re-using the callback fr
callback is callable, the opposite could not be true.
a string --or a closure-- is callable, but the string is not a callback
IMHO callable fits better.
Martin Scotta
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:28 PM, David Zülke wrote:
> On 07.06.2011, at 21:12, Stas Malyshev wrote:
>
> > Hi!
&g
Martin Scotta
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:43 AM, John Crenshaw wrote:
> >$apos = curry strpos(..., 'a'));
> >$apos(); // runtime error wrong param count?
> >$apos("bar"); // fine
> >$apos("bar", "foo"); //
Martin Scotta
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:32 AM, David Muir wrote:
> On 07/06/11 15:49, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> > Am 07.06.2011 04:42, schrieb Martin Scotta:
> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Reindl Harald >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Am 06.06.2011 23
Martin Scotta
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Reindl Harald >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Am 07.06.2011 15:08, schrieb Ferenc Kovacs:
> > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Reindl Harald > >wrote:
>
Martin Scotta
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> The point, though, is that with such a typehint available, we can reduce
>> boilerplate code like the following:
>>
>
> Sure. How about reducing boilterplate code like this:
>
Martin Scotta
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 06.06.2011 23:40, schrieb Martin Scotta:
>
> > It'd be very nice if some extension could be enabled just by dropping the
> > "extension file" on the path.
> > So developers c
Martin Scotta
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney <
weierophin...@php.net> wrote:
> On 2011-06-01, Sean Coates wrote:
> > > Now, the only reason I would personally support the array shortcut is
> > > if it was an implementation of JSON.
Martin Scotta
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> wrote:
>
> > My point is that perhaps PHP has missed the boat a bit by moving
> > everything into extensions. Perhaps if an extension is pa
Martin Scotta
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> hi Derick,
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to set up a vote for the undecided TODO features on
>
Could we first go out with fully JSON compatible version for 5.4?
and then later decide the => stuff based on how that worked.
Native JSON is a big stuff for userland, and I'm pretty sure it will bring a
hole of core version upgrades.
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Sea
Martin Scotta
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> annotations have been a central part of the last 100 or so JSRs and I've
>> only seen one or two informed objections, it's fairly obvious the list has
>> had very little experie
Martin Scotta
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote:
> Personally, I really don't care for something like this. Would it be
> caught by a __call declaration if one existed (since it is a call to
> an undefined method)? Would you expect it to?
>
Alt
Martin Scotta
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Arvids Godjuks wrote:
> Well, maybe it's time to make some decisions and start to spin the wheels?
>
> I's quite obvious that annotations are out for next release until they are
> a
> docbook/phpDoc style. Personall
Martin Scotta
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Lars Schultz wrote:
> Am 10.05.2011 09:44, schrieb Ferenc Kovacs:
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Chad Fulton
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Lester Caine
>>> wrote:
>>>
&
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On 05/10/2011 01:10 AM, Jordi Boggiano wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Lars Schultz
>>
>>> To explain what I mean, I'll use the example provided in the RFC. Could
>>>
>>> anyone please explain the advantages of having "passive
Martin Scotta
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, guilhermebla...@gmail.com <
guilhermebla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd love if you ever discuss these items for 5.4:
>
> - ReflectionNamespace
>
> Currently it's impossible to grab a docblock that docume
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Peter Lind wrote:
> 2011/4/28 Martin Scotta :
>
> * snip *
>
> > IMHO I would not trust on any return value, as PHP did not ensure
> anything
> > about them.
> > Even more, I do not write code that depend on r
Martin Scotta
2011/4/28 Johannes Schlüter
> On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 20:04 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> > > Why I need being "saved" from documenting my code properly? Anyway, the
> > > function code defines the behavior, declaration of return type just
> en
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Matt Wilson wrote:
> Here's my issue:
>
> We're borrowing a feature from strongly typed languages and forcing it on a
> loosely typed language. I'm fine with this, if we're true to the concept.
>
> In a regu
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Ben Schmidt wrote:
> FWIW, I don't see much point in this either, as far as error reporting is
> concerned. I think type checking for parameters can provide cheap and useful
> validation, as parameters passed in are outside
Hey All,
I'm really interested on this topic.
What would be the result of this?
function Foo foo($something) {
if ( $something ) {
return new Foo;
}
// no return implies return null
}
How do you force to return a Type with null allowed?
Martin Scotta
On Thu, A
Martin Scotta
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Alessandro Nadalin <
alessandro.nada...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/4/24 Etienne Kneuss :
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Apr 24 22:13:47, Ángel González wrote:
> >> reeze wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I
what about something like this?
$_GET += array( 'key' => 42, 'other' => 'blablah' );
echo $_GET [ 'key' ];
and it's already available on you current instalation :)
Martin Scotta
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Ben Schmidt wrote:
>
good data abstractions the usage of array_key_exists/isset/empty is
barely reduced to the minimum.
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Ben Schmidt wrote:
> There are two issues here.
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Suppression of notice. I agree, it is best
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ben Schmidt
wrote:
> 1. Suppression of notice. I agree, it is best done only for array
>>> keys. It's not hard to initialise a variable with $var=null at the
>>> beginning of a code block to avoid such a notice, and that
It seems that there are no consensus about this feature so...
*if in doubt, leave it out.*
Martin Scotta
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Chris Stockton
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> wrote:
> > On 2011-04-11, Stas Ma
harm than good.
To check if a variable was already defined is a bad programing habit, these
operators will encourage that kind of things
In the other hand, the isset check inside the condition ?: would silently
improve not-so-well written code, and could be a good feature for the lang.
Martin Scotta
erextends Scalar, Numeric { }
interface Float extends Number { }
interface Integer extends Number { }
( http://graph.gafol.net/etSevVPSJ )
This way the core will know which methods are allowed to call on each $var
Advantages:
* cannnot create instances
* cannot extends these interfaces (private to core)
* very very fine type hint
* core implementation is not exposed
Martin Scotta
hem as a regular strings or by calling methods on it.
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On 03/31/2011 08:45 AM, Philip Olson wrote:
>
> > - Intuitive name
>
> Argh! Everyone should be forced to learn a bit of C. Like many PHP
> funct
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On 03/31/2011 07:41 AM, Philip Olson wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Martin Jansen wrote:
> >
> >> On 30.03.11 21:36, Dan Birken wrote:
> >>> As for adding other stri
. how about Java?
string.endsWith(str);
I don't speak Ruby or Python... how do you do this in such languages?
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Hannes Landeholm wrote:
> PHP's substr() is awesome and that comes from a person that code in at
> least
> 5 differe
,
Martin Scotta
I chose the simplest example to show the preg_replace behavior, there are
better (and safer) ways to scape slash characters.
Anyways, *is this the expected preg_replace behavior?*
Martin
ok, I think I got it.
so you think it's safe to include an empty new line after a line that ends
with ?> ?
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Hannes Landeholm wrote:
> http://brian.moonspot.net/php-history-newline-closing-tag
>
> ~Hannes
>
> On 10 March 20
hi all,
11
22
33
11
22
33
First try works... but second fails
output:
1 1
2 2
3 3
1 12 2
3 3
is this the expected behavior?
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Chad Fulton wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Jarrod Nettles
> wrote:
> > Interesting question. My gut tells me not (as does three years of C#
> experience). I’m sure that everyone will have a different opinion on this
> but to me it seems taboo
ass "Prot"
So... does it mean that class "Priv" cannot be used outside "A"? no, you can
always return a reference.
namespace A {
class F {
static function getE() { return new E; }
}
private class E { }
}
var_dump( \A\F::getE() ); // object \A\E
Martin
e able to recover themselves... and if they don't catch
the error... then die.
it would be nice if all errors could be changed into exceptions.
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Hannes Landeholm wrote:
> I second making time limit reached catchable. All non catchable fatal
I'm writing a RFC about improvements on the current OO Model.
do you want to add this?
http://wiki.php.net/rfc/object-model-improvements
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Jarrod Nettles wrote:
> Has there been any discussion on access modifiers for classes? I looked
&
fine or constants?
so you need classes.. do they fit well? I don't think so
$h = new Hydrogen(); // What would mean this?
$h = Element::Hydrogen(); // probably with a static method
$h = Element::Hydrogen; // class constant? lack of objects support
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:49 AM,
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Ben Schmidt
wrote:
> Are you suggesting this as an enum member function, or just a regular
>>> function in any old class?
>>>
>>
>> "Enum member funcion"? How much it should be like a class before you
>
answered this clearly. I don't think type hinting
> is worth the implementation overhead (loss of efficiency) it would require.
>
> Ben.
>
>
>
Martin Scotta
>
>
> On 23/02/11 1:11 AM, Jarrod Nettles wrote:
>
>> Apologies - I wasn't suggesting we implem
ide some helpful methods out the box,
like __toString, or fromString
enum MySqlEnum {
A_CONSTANT, ANOTHER_ONE;
}
$foo = MySqlEnum::A_CONSTANT;
var_dump( (string) $foo ); // string "A_CONSTANT"
var_dump( MySqlEnum::ANOTHER_ONE === MySqlEnum::fromString('ANOTHER_ONE'));
MySqlEnum:
construct" per file) and thus will need to support autoloading. The
> only way to achieve this will be by passing a fully qualified name into the
> registered autoloaders.
>
> /Framework/Web/Mvc/HttpVerbsEnum
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Scotta [mailto:mar
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Thomas Gutbier <
thomas.gutb...@anthrotec.de> wrote:
> Jarrod Nettles wrote:
>
>> So, my proposed syntax would look something more like this.
>>
>
> I think also and was wondering about the current rfc for a few weeks.
> Im not a core developer but I want to outli
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> Many PHP features should be language constructs, but they were made as
>> language hacks.
>>
>> __construct is evil, as like any other language hack
>>
>
> Construct
fail as parent::__construct will not exists.
In both cases there were no API changes, only the way the objects are
initializated was what changed.
My point is that the language does not provide solid fundations (aka
language constructs) for systems and libraries to evolve in a safe way.
Martin Scotta
ct.
Threads are not easy, even the most experienced programmer could not get it
right from the scratch.
IMHO, as a simple PHP programmer, the language should provide the simplest
language construct and the engine should handle all the complexity under the
hood.
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Jan 19, 201
hValues($anInteger, $aBool, $aString) {
var_dump($anInteger, $aBool, $aString);
}
function withObject(ParamOject $o) {
var_dump( $o->theInteger(), $o->theBool(), $o->theString() );
}
Martin Scotta
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Hannes Landeholm wrote:
> Using references does
Yes, my question was about the internal development of PHP.
How do you guys develop the core of PHP?
Which IDE or text editor do you use?
How do you launch the compiler?
Are you able to debug the PHP core while it's running some PHP script?
Martin Scotta
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:
Hi all,
I'm just starting with the internal PHP development.
Do you have some sort of common development environment? Eclipse project or
the like?
I'm using Ubuntu but also have a WXP, just for the sake of.
how do you develop PHP ?
Martin Scotta
Hi all,
I don't know how the internal development process of PHP works.
First at all: was this feature approved?
if that is a "yes"...
is this feature going to be scheduled for some release?
Is it supposed that I will submit a patch?
Thanks you all,
Martin Scotta
On Sun, Ja
, '\A\B\C\Foo' refers to the same class that 'A\B\C\Foo', but
the string comparison will return false
Regards,
Martin Scotta
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Michael Morris wrote:
> +1 to this. In a similar vein (and similar reasons) consider ::PARENT as
> well. Sin
just for consistency but, as I previously said, I'm not sure about this
one.
Martin Scotta
2011/1/5 John LeSueur
>
>
> 2011/1/5 Johannes Schlüter
>
>> On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 21:53 -0300, Martin Scotta wrote:
>> > $obj = newInstance( MyClass ); // notice.
S" is currently a reserved word is guarantied that nobody is
using as it today.
What do you think about?
Martin Scotta
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