Re: [imp] Signature when answering or composing mail

2015-10-30 Thread Michael J Rubinsky
Quoting Ruben Squartini : Hi people! Is there any way to set the signature to be added at the top of the mail when answering (and cursor is set to appear at the top of the editing window)? In this way the signature will be at the end of the written answer and not pile up at the end of the com

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-20 Thread Anton Köstlbacher
Am 22.01.2013 12:47, schrieb Jan Schneider: Zitat von Luis Felipe Marzagao : On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : As an alternative, I have proposed at least just the *displaying* of the signature (i. e., in another frame or something lik

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-08 Thread c . bayerlein
I am seeing a pattern in these discussions. I don't want to point fingers, but I would respectfully and gently suggest that the current approach to answering questions and comments be reconsidered. There are two sides to every story, and development theory and the real world can sometimes be at

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-07 Thread Luis Felipe Marzagao
Em 07/02/2013, às 16:09, Brendan Oakley escreveu: > Hi Michael, > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: >> Quoting Brendan Oakley : >> >> You are pointing fingers. I will instead take the approach of opening a >> dialogue. >> > > Yes, this response, in many respects, is

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-07 Thread Brendan Oakley
Hi Michael, On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: > Quoting Brendan Oakley : > > You are pointing fingers. I will instead take the approach of opening a > dialogue. > Yes, this response, in many respects, is a good example of a thoughtful one. I like the links you provided to

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-06 Thread Michael M Slusarz
Quoting Brendan Oakley : On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Brendan Oakley wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: Or do the search yourself: http://www.horde.org/community/mail/ I can also almost guarantee if you search for my name and "signature" and either "stupid" o

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-06 Thread Ralf Lang
On 06.02.2013 19:43, Brendan Oakley wrote: I am seeing a pattern in these discussions. I don't want to point fingers, but I would respectfully and gently suggest that the current approach to answering questions and comments be reconsidered. There are two sides to every story, and development theo

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-06 Thread Brendan Oakley
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Brendan Oakley wrote: > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: > >> Or do the search yourself: >> >> http://www.horde.org/community/mail/ >> >> I can also almost guarantee if you search for my name and "signature" and >> either "stupid" or "dumb" or

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-06 Thread Brendan Oakley
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: > Or do the search yourself: > > http://www.horde.org/community/mail/ > > I can also almost guarantee if you search for my name and "signature" and > either "stupid" or "dumb" or "signatures in the compose body is the most > idiotic UI decis

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-05 Thread Michael M Slusarz
Quoting Brendan Oakley : On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Ralf Lang wrote: I would also like to read reasons why signatures were so dramatically altered - any links? https://www.google.de/search?q=horde+imp+signature For the record, this does not produce the answer. The first search resul

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-02-05 Thread Brendan Oakley
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Ralf Lang wrote: >> I would also like to read reasons why signatures were so >> dramatically altered - any links? > > https://www.google.de/search?q=horde+imp+signature > For the record, this does not produce the answer. The first search result is an unresolved is

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-23 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von Luis Felipe Marzagao : Em 22/01/2013 19:59, Michael J Rubinsky escreveu: Quoting Jan Schneider : Zitat von Luis Felipe Marzagao : On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : As an alternative, I have proposed at least just the *d

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-23 Thread Luis Felipe Marzagao
Em 22/01/2013 19:59, Michael J Rubinsky escreveu: Quoting Jan Schneider : Zitat von Luis Felipe Marzagao : On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : As an alternative, I have proposed at least just the *displaying* of the signature (i. e., i

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-22 Thread Michael J Rubinsky
Quoting Jan Schneider : Zitat von Luis Felipe Marzagao : On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : As an alternative, I have proposed at least just the *displaying* of the signature (i. e., in another frame or something like that), which doe

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-22 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von Luis Felipe Marzagao : On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : As an alternative, I have proposed at least just the *displaying* of the signature (i. e., in another frame or something like that), which does not seem a hard task to a

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-22 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von Ralf Lang : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 21.01.2013 22:37, schrieb Luis Felipe Marzagao: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Ralf Lang wrote: I think your main idea in previous discussions was "use templates/drafts, not identities/signatures". I'll try that. Let's

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-22 Thread azurIt
> Od: "Michael M Slusarz" > Komu: > Dátum: 21.01.2013 21:42 > Predmet: Re: [imp] Signature > >Quoting Ralf Lang : > >> I understand the arguments for and against showing/editing signatures. >> Still I do not find it very intuitive and when H5 goes int

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Luis Felipe Marzagao
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Ralf Lang wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am 21.01.2013 22:37, schrieb Luis Felipe Marzagao: >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Ralf Lang >> wrote: I think your main idea in previous discussions was "use >> templates/drafts, not ident

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Ralf Lang
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 21.01.2013 22:37, schrieb Luis Felipe Marzagao: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Ralf Lang > wrote: I think your main idea in previous discussions was "use > templates/drafts, not identities/signatures". I'll try that. Let's > see how it works o

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Luis Felipe Marzagao
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Ralf Lang wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I think your main idea in previous discussions was "use > templates/drafts, not identities/signatures". I'll try that. Let's see > how it works out and disarm a little bit. Let's not play Lennar

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Luis Felipe Marzagao
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: > Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : > >> As an alternative, I have proposed at least just the *displaying* of the >> signature (i. e., in another frame or something like that), which does not >> seem a hard task to accomplish (I mean, pull the

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Luis Felipe Marzagao
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote: > Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : > >> I also think wrinting a msg and not seeing what will be the final text is >> really confusing and nonintuitive, mainly for real life/regular users, but >> since this is open source software, at least yo

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von Simon Brereton : On Jan 21, 2013 2:13 PM, "Michael M Slusarz" wrote: Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : I also think wrinting a msg and not seeing what will be the final text is really confusing and nonintuitive, mainly for real life/regular users, but since this is open source soft

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Michael M Slusarz
Quoting Ralf Lang : I understand the arguments for and against showing/editing signatures. Still I do not find it very intuitive and when H5 goes into production this month, I am sure users will ask for patches to at least see the signature. To summarize dozens of previous posts why signatures

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Ralf Lang
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Comparing signature to the server trailer is completely wrong - > these are two different things which share nothing. Comparing is never wrong. It yields differences and identity. Sometimes more the former, sometimes more the latter. > > Here are f

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Simon Brereton
On Jan 21, 2013 2:13 PM, "Michael M Slusarz" wrote: > > Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : > >> I also think wrinting a msg and not seeing what will be the final text is really confusing and nonintuitive, mainly for real life/regular users, but since this is open source software, at least you can alte

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread azurIt
> Od: "Michael M Slusarz" > Komu: > Dátum: 21.01.2013 20:13 > Predmet: Re: [imp] Signature > >Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : > >> I also think wrinting a msg and not seeing what will be the final >> text is really confusing and nonintuitive, mainly

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Ralf Lang
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > NO MUA THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN "GUARANTEES" THAT WHAT YOU "SEE" IN > THE COMPOSE WINDOW IS ACTUALLY WHAT IS SENT OUT. Haven't seen such either. > An admin can add a trailer to every message which cannot be altered > by the user and will never be seen

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Michael M Slusarz
Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : As an alternative, I have proposed at least just the *displaying* of the signature (i. e., in another frame or something like that), which does not seem a hard task to accomplish (I mean, pull the signature text from db backend when selecting the identity in t

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Michael M Slusarz
Quoting Luis Felipe Marzagao : I also think wrinting a msg and not seeing what will be the final text is really confusing and nonintuitive, mainly for real life/regular users, but since this is open source software, at least you can alter the code. Imagine if it were proprietary/closed so

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Michael M Slusarz
Quoting azurIt : Well, this is your opinion and other people (including me) may not agree with it. I'm not going to argue with you and Jan but current signature behavior is extremely non-standard (have you ever seen any other e-mail client which was acting like this?) and lot's of our cus

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Luis Felipe Marzagao
Em 21/01/2013 16:42, azurIt escreveu: Od: "Michael M Slusarz" Komu: Dátum: 21.01.2013 19:29 Predmet: Re: [imp] Signature Quoting azurIt : Od: "Jan Schneider" Komu: Dátum: 21.01.2013 09:48 Predmet: Re: [imp] Signature Zitat von azurIt : Hi, ia have two questions: 1

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread azurIt
> Od: "Michael M Slusarz" > Komu: > Dátum: 21.01.2013 19:29 > Predmet: Re: [imp] Signature > >Quoting azurIt : > >>> Od: "Jan Schneider" >>> Komu: >>> Dátum: 21.01.2013 09:48 >>> Predmet: Re: [imp] Signature >>

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Michael M Slusarz
Quoting azurIt : Od: "Jan Schneider" Komu: Dátum: 21.01.2013 09:48 Predmet: Re: [imp] Signature Zitat von azurIt : Hi, ia have two questions: 1.) Is it possible to add signature right after the _my_ text in IMP6 when replying to message? Standard behavior is to add it to

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread azurIt
> Od: "Jan Schneider" > Komu: > Dátum: 21.01.2013 09:48 > Predmet: Re: [imp] Signature > >Zitat von azurIt : > >> Hi, >> >> ia have two questions: >> >> 1.) Is it possible to add signature right after the _my_ text in >> I

Re: [imp] Signature

2013-01-21 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von azurIt : Hi, ia have two questions: 1.) Is it possible to add signature right after the _my_ text in IMP6 when replying to message? Standard behavior is to add it to the end of message (so after the quoted text). 2.) Is it possible to display signature in compose screen? Like i

Re: [imp] signature handling in latest IMP

2012-12-04 Thread Michael M Slusarz
Quoting Jens-Uwe Mozdzen : With H5, the signature seems to be added right before sending the message, after closing the composition window. This is correct. Search mail archives for previous discussions. michael ___ Michael Slusarz [slus...@horde.org] -- im

Re: [imp] signature empty after logout

2012-10-31 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von Samuel Wolf : 2012/10/31 : Problem is that I can create new signature, even use it during the session but it occurs that there is no signature in preferences after logout and login again. I had a similar problem some month ago, one user add some special turkish character in his si

Re: [imp] signature empty after logout

2012-10-31 Thread Samuel Wolf
2012/10/31 : > Problem is that I can create new signature, even use it during the session > but it occurs that there is no signature in preferences after logout and > login again. I had a similar problem some month ago, one user add some special turkish character in his signature. Create a test s

Re: [imp] signature empty after logout

2012-10-31 Thread wirusy
Hi, I have problem with saving signatures in my horde/imp/turba install. I use version 4.0.3 horde, 5.0.4 imp and 3.0.2 turba. I tried upgrading but then I had problems with dynamic view. Do you have any suggestions what?s wrong ? Pawel Without telling what your problem actually is, no.

Re: [imp] signature empty after logout

2012-10-31 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von wir...@e.lublin.pl: Hi, I have problem with saving signatures in my horde/imp/turba install. I use version 4.0.3 horde, 5.0.4 imp and 3.0.2 turba. I tried upgrading but then I had problems with dynamic view. Do you have any suggestions what?s wrong ? Pawel Without telling what

Re: [imp] Signature in UTF-8 [solved]

2008-02-07 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Thursday 07 February 2008 10:10, Jan Schneider wrote: >> If the dump is actually ISO-8859-1 i can probably >> just use iconv to switch it to UTF-8. > >That still wouldn't solve the problem. Serialized PHP arrays track >string lengths. But PHP versions lower than 6 don't really know about >string

Re: [imp] Signature in UTF-8 [solved]

2008-02-07 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von "Daniel A. Ramaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Is any conversion of the dump file itself beyond changing the CREATE >>> DATABASE encoding necessary? Right now if i perform a dump, the >>> "file" utility reports the result as ASCII text. >> >> If you are absolutely sure that you only have A

Re: [imp] Signature in UTF-8 [solved]

2008-02-07 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
Thank you for the fast response! On Thursday 07 February 2008 09:43, Jan Schneider wrote: >> If the database itself needs to be re-encoded, my thought is to... > >These seems to be PostgresQL specific feature, so I can't tell what >exactly it does, but it sounds reasonable. If i decide to do this

Re: [imp] Signature in UTF-8 [solved]

2008-02-07 Thread Jan Schneider
Zitat von "Daniel A. Ramaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 07 February 2008 08:33, Micha Kersloot wrote: > Seems that UTF-8 is working allright in Imp3, but i'm not able to > use these characters in the signature. >>> Sorry my mistake... It is Imp H3 4.1.5 that i am using. >> >> With

Re: [imp] Signature in UTF-8 [solved]

2008-02-07 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Thursday 07 February 2008 08:33, Micha Kersloot wrote: Seems that UTF-8 is working allright in Imp3, but i'm not able to use these characters in the signature. >> Sorry my mistake... It is Imp H3 4.1.5 that i am using. > >With help of Jan, i've found out that you also need to set the >da

Re: [imp] Signature in UTF-8 [solved]

2008-02-07 Thread Micha Kersloot
Hi, On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:37:07 +0100, Micha Kersloot wrote: > On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:37:50 -0500, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote: > >> Quoting Micha Kersloot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> Seems that UTF-8 is working allright in Imp3, but i'm not able to use >>> these characters in the signature. It is f

Re: [imp] Signature in UTF-8

2008-02-06 Thread Micha Kersloot
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:37:50 -0500, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote: > Quoting Micha Kersloot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Seems that UTF-8 is working allright in Imp3, but i'm not able to use >> these characters in the signature. It is for russian for now, but we have >> some bulgarian users using this syste

Re: [imp] Signature in UTF-8

2008-02-06 Thread Chuck Hagenbuch
Quoting Micha Kersloot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Seems that UTF-8 is working allright in Imp3, but i'm not able to use > these characters in the signature. It is for russian for now, but we have > some bulgarian users using this system also. Is there a solution for this? Yes, use IMP 4, which has mu