Re: Where is the EPA offset of a program in the Binder API data?

2018-12-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 03:48:50 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > >War story. We once tried to provide emergency recovery for a sister shop whose >upgrade had tanked horribly. They brought copies of their critical programs on >tape. Forget why, but one of them needed to be relinked for our environment

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:41:43 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >Are there examples in CBT of code that do similar analysis of DASD >datasets? Even something that does a good job at deducing >SPACE=(unit,(pri,sec)) is not as simple as one might think. > AVGREC adds to the chaos. If the initial allocation

Re: IND$FILE -- where did the name come from?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 19:20:07 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I believe that he's using a different meaning of client, e.g., customer. > >IND$FILE, SFTP and WSA are all easier to use for people who are not at home >with the Eunix utilities. > My favorite approach has been NFS. It puts my z/OS data o

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
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Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 23:48:12 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > >I'm not aware that IEBGENER itself ever changed. You either kept the classic >version or played the alias game. The app we shot in the foot counted on >IEBGENER default behavior by hardcoding I/P block size later on for the same >file

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 08:52:26 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 19:47:40 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>And ISTR that the number of control >>statements in SYSIN once needed to be declared in PARM. > >I don't remember that, so I looked on bi

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 10:15:21 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: > >>the programmer must >>indicate to IEBGENER how much storage it needs. > >I think you mean that sufficient REGION must be provided. That is no different >than any program. > >That same manual specifies > > >The minimum region sizes are: >o

Re: Knowledge Centre - (was Re: Rant)

2018-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:43:03 -0600, Dana Mitchell wrote: >I have another challenge with Knowledge Centre, I'm using KC4Z and loaded the >z/OS 2.2 content. When I do a search for a keyword, all the search results >just say 'Found in: z/OS 2.2.0'. Instead it would be much more helpful if it

Re: Knowledge Centre - (was Re: Rant)

2018-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 20:42:14 +, Edward Finnell wrote: > >https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/lookatkc?OpenDocumentIn > a message dated 12/5/2018 2:39:05 PM Central Standard Time, >000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu writes: >(Is there any confirmation of th

Re: Knowledge Centre - (was Re: Rant)

2018-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 21:50:27 +, Edward Finnell wrote: >Don't know what AOL does sometimes. > That's what I use, but IMAP, not webmail. >The IBM url >is:https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/lookatkc > Thanks. >The tinyurl is: > https://tinyurl.com/ycxffjr3 > ... but

Re: Knowledge Centre - (was Re: Rant)

2018-12-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 19:52:53 -0600, Dale R. Smith wrote: > >So how many millions will IBM spend to recreate in KC the function that has >been available in BookManager for many years? > All good things musr pass, with inevitable future shock. BookManager had capacity problems; fixing them might ha

Re: Code vulnerability

2018-12-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 18:18:04 +, Rugen, Len wrote: >I guess you could write assembler code entirely with > DCX'.' > Don't do that! RLDs? Location independent code? >The use ZAP to maintain it :-) > "ZAP" is a key word. How does one guarantee that any program in any langua

Re: SFTP between AIX to Mainframe

2018-12-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 19:34:48 +0300, venkat kulkarni wrote: >Hello Group, > >We have some FTP job enabled b/w AIX to MF and now we have requirement to >convert them into SFTP. > >But as AIX is ascii and MF is EBCDIC system. How this transfer will work. >Also, currently FTP process use ascii mode to

Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 08:37:21 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >I would like to break the lines (intelligently -- at an English word >boundary) no later than column 72. > fold -sw72 file.text --- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: ICKDSF QUESTION

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:25:53 +, esmie moo wrote: >Gentle Readers, >I have a slight problem.  A disk was flashed using FDRFLASH, however, the >relationship between the source and target was not released.  I looked at the >option of using ICKDSF to break the relationship. Below is the job I in

Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:13:15 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Perhaps a command that is local to your site? > >IKJ56500I COMMAND TF72 NOT FOUND > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54em00/tflow.htm -- gil --

Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:48:20 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Oh, I did it as a primary command because I wanted it done to the entire >file. > >I would need to do on each line. Not out of the question. > I believe it operates on each succeeding line until the indention changes. -- gil

Re: SFTP between AIX to Mainframe

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:01:36 +0300, venkat kulkarni wrote: > >We have strange SFTP output cases. > >1) We had requirement of sending ascii file using SFTP from Solaris to >Mainframe . So, we used DD command to convert this ascii file into ebcdic > >using conv parameter and CBS size equal to record

Re: SFTP between AIX to Mainframe

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:24:08 +0300, venkat kulkarni wrote: >Non readable format means in ebcdic format. > ??? I would that on the mainframe you should want it in EBCDIC format. >> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:01:36 +0300, venkat kulkarni wrote: >> > >> >1) We had requirement of sending ascii file us

Re: SFTP between AIX to Mainframe

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:01:36 +0300, venkat kulkarni wrote: >Hello All, > >We have strange SFTP output cases. > >1) We had requirement of sending ascii file using SFTP from Solaris to >Mainframe . So, we used DD command to convert this ascii file into ebcdic > Please supply more information for di

Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:25:34 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >Text consisting of paragraphs with no indentions or blank lines seems like a >pretty odd notion of 'paragraphs'. ... > It's MS Word's convention. Pressing ENTER inserts a ¶. On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:32:11 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>

Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2018-12-10, at 15:44:31, Charles Mills wrote: > It has nothing to do with MS-Word but yes, MS-Word also follows this > convention. No, the lines are nowhere near of equal length. Fold would > probably work. I have z/OS of course. But as I said I now have the problem > solved. Several good

Re: AW: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:05:57 +0100, Mike Beer wrote: >Any XEDIT compatible editor (e.g. THE) should do this with a few commands > >ZONE 1 72 >FLOW >FILE > I find no FLOW command in: z/VM Version 7 Release 1 XEDIT Commands and Macros Reference IBM SC24-6337-00 Is XEDIT considered an "XEDIT comp

Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:05:07 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >You can readily disable smart quotes. > But some people like them. Microsoft will outwit you. I once sent a co-worker a JCL excerpt with: "...BLKSIZE=6144,..." He wrote back, "What's this 'BLKSIZEa44'?" There was *no* quoted-printabl

Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:17:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about. > >That's why I hate them. > >BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's >sending me a document? > After the fact, copy and paste the code you need, then

ISPBTCH JCLLIB? (was: ZFS RECORG=FS)

2018-12-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:28:20 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > >//ISPBTCH EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01, > >// DYNAMNBR=40,TIME=1440 >//SYSTSIN DD * >ISPSTART CMD(BPXWH2Z -vc /hfs/zfs/ OMVS.USR.LOCAL >//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* >//SYSEXEC DD DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC,DISP=SHR >//ISPLIST DD SYSOUT=A,DCB=(LRECL=121,BLKSIZE=12

Re: Thanks For All the Fish

2018-12-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:41:27 -0500, John Eells wrote: >Friday, 14 December 2018, will be my last day at IBM. For the curious, >I started on a Wednesday, 1 June 1977, so it will be 41 years, 6 months >since I started as a CE in the local Poughkeepsie branch office. > Thanks for all the advice --

Re: AW: SPFLite goes Open Source

2018-12-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 07:56:36 -0600, Dave Jones wrote: >I can reach https://www.powerbasic.com/ now.. > Hmmm... "Open Source", but you need an ISV licensed tool to build it. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / arch

Re: AW: SPFLite goes Open Source

2018-12-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 14:13:49 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >> >>>I can reach https://www.powerbasic.com/ now.. >>> >>Hmmm... "Open Source", but you need an ISV licensed tool to build it. > Their License Agreement is at: https://www.powerbasic.com/Content/Images/uploaded/PowerBASIC_License_A

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fixes from CA

2018-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 14:30:21 +, Cieri, Anthony wrote: > >Once in z/OS (USS) I used a program called CAUNZIP to unzip and SMP/E receive >all of the PTFs. ... > Would "jar" have extracted them for you? If not, CA is doing a disservice be requiring idiosyncratic tools. Perhaps even better wou

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fixes from CA

2018-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 14:36:34 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: > >Yes, I get scart0.zip and unzip it on a PC. >I then set quote site parameters and mput them bunch by bunch. >Like... mput *.bin, mput *.txt, and so on. > Ouch! >Should I just chuck the scart0.zip into USS, and process there?

Re: Fixes from CA

2018-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:36:09 -0600, Al Ferguson wrote: >I have found "jar -xf scart0.zip" works fine for me. I like to stick with base >product (or other tools provided by/through) IBM, or Open Source vs pulling >3rd party versions of generic utilities (I do not trust their maintenance >histori

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fixes from CA

2018-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:36:09 -0600, Al Ferguson wrote: >I have found "jar -xf scart0.zip" works fine for me. I like to stick with base >product (or other tools provided by/through) IBM, or Open Source vs pulling >3rd party versions of generic utilities (I do not trust their maintenance >histori

Re: Fixes from CA

2018-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:16:47 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I have no problem with 7z, but using an extension for the wrong format is sick. > Yes. I understand that customary vs. peculiar format is an option; I don't know the default. Which do you use? Can the archives you create be extracted b

Re: Fixes from CA

2018-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:39:09 -0600, Robert Longabaugh wrote: >.. >CAUNZIP documentation is in several places, including here: >https://docops.ca.com/ca-common-services-for-z-os/14-1/en/administrating/caunzip-utility > Where I see: ... CAUNZIP is a TSO utility that extracts the contents of

Re: Adding 90 seconds to 8 byte TOD FIELD

2018-12-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:02:05 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > >One second in clock units is X'F424'. ... >http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dz9zr011.pdf > >So right after you do STCK TIME then do this to get a time 90 seconds later >(SEC90 is an 8 byte field, the same size as your

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-12-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 08:52:55 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > >On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:39:08 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: >>... The documentation says "The STCKCONV macro converts an input >>time-of-day (TOD) clock value to time of day and date, and returns the >>converted values to the call

Re: Adding 90 seconds to 8 byte TOD FIELD

2018-12-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 12:09:10 -0500, Joseph Reichman wrote: >Thanks > >I have it in a macro and will post the code >.WAIT ANOP > L R15,16 GET CVT ADDRESS > L R15,X'8C'(R15) GET ECVT ADDRESS > L R15,X'384'(R15) GET

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-12-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:00:47 -0500, Peter Relson wrote: > >>I believe a programmer might reasonably expect that STCKCONV usefully return >>whatever TIME would have returned at the instant of the STCK. > >A programmer would expect next to nothing due to the name of a service >since it is not possib

Re: How about a little Christmas fudge? | Computerworld Shark tank

2018-12-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:28:07 -0500, Mark Regan wrote: >https://www.computerworld.com/article/3330396/application-development/situation-normal-all-fudged-up.html > Did I miss something? Did it describe the "one adjustment," on the "One card" that he added? Would it be obvious if I were familiar

BLSUXTOD

2018-12-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In: MVS Interactive Problem Control System (IPCS) Customization Version 2 Release 3 SA23-1383-30 I read: TOD Clock Service The time-of-day (TOD) clock service provides a caller, including your exit routine, with a TOD clock image. In the clock image, bit 0 is set on to allow the service

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-12-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 14:46:41 -0500, Peter Relson wrote: >I shouldn't have included "TIME" among the services I mentioned because >that's "current", not "historic" (so only has to deal with "current" leap >seconds) and because it does not let you choose STCK as the "zone" -- you > Not as the "xo

Re: BLSUXTOD

2018-12-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
gt;bit clock will roll over, and bit 0 will return to zero. > By my arithmetic, January 1, 1900 + 143 years = January 1, 2043. Doesn't forcing bit 0 to 1 as described below restrict the cycle of the clock to 71 years rather than the 143 years from 1971 to 2114 stated below? >On Fri, D

Re: BLSUXTOD

2018-12-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:57:43 -0600, Joe Monk wrote: >>"By my arithmetic, January 1, 1900 + 143 years = January 1, 2043". > >Ummm ... Did you forget the year 1900? Theres only 142 years left after you >subtract the Year 1900. > WTF!? So, by that reasoning, January 1, 1900 + 1 year = January 1, 19

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-12-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 05:21:30 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >"A STCK value came from the clock and is not to be considered UTC time." > >Then what is STP/NTP (or whatever the current mechanism is named) supposed to >do? Isn't the entire point of a hardware clock-setting mechanism to set the

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-12-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 23:52:07 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> ... >I believe otherwise. In order to avoid discontinuities at leap seconds of the >sort >that cause network failures: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second#Examples_of_problems_associated_with_the

Re: BLSUXTOD

2018-12-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:54:48 -0500, Peter Relson wrote: > >What this is likely trying (but failing) to say is that this service >applies a windowing technique, which much of z/OS will do in the coming >years, as we approach the end of the standard epoch. > Kind of like: https://en.wikipedia.

Clock Windowing (was: BLSUXTOD)

2018-12-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:54:48 -0500, Peter Relson wrote: > ... >What this is likely trying (but failing) to say is that this service >applies a windowing technique, which much of z/OS will do in the coming >years, as we approach the end of the standard epoch. > I forgot to ask: How will this pla

Re: System Symbols

2018-12-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 19:18:56 +, Sean Gleann wrote: > >I'm using IEASYMU2 on a daily basis to create (immediately after IPL) or >update 2 system symbols. > I hope you don't mean you IPL daily. >These symbols contain date values for 'yesterday' in Gregorian and Julian > Julian? https://en.wiki

Re: Clock Windowing (was: BLSUXTOD)

2018-12-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:00:03 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: > SA22-7832-11 (z14 level of Principles of Operation) explains how the TOD > clock >and clock comparator deal with the next epoch. > Wow! ... the multiple- epoch facility ... the clock-comparator sign control ... Thanks. > I can't s

Re: System Symbols

2018-12-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 08:29:19 +, Sean Gleann wrote: > >As for "This is the sort of thing that should be routinely provided by the >OS." - a huge YES! to that, and other associated values like 'first working >day of the week/month/year' and so on. >Its a crying shame that the only other way of ge

Re: System Symbols

2018-12-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:54:08 +, Martin Packer wrote: > >Paul, do you have a sample? > >(This would actually anable something for me.) > I have nothing in use that I can share, but something like: #! /bin/sh -x submit <

Network names (was: System Symbols)

2018-12-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:00:02 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >In the mid 1990s, when SNA interconnection between enterprises was at its >peak, IBM had an SNA network name registry. (For all I know they may still >have it.) Names were of the form character customer code>, so e.g. IBM itself was USIBM (

ibm-main@listserv.ua.edu

2019-01-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:34:01 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 18:16:27 +, Edward Finnell wrote: > >>Wonder if the local library or edu has a subscription? > >Yes, I wonder. Haven't checked yet. > >I wonder if SHARE could get a subscription... > https://xkcd.com/2085/ https

Re: HSM and empty files

2019-01-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:52:41 -0600, Glenn Wilcock wrote: > >I looked and didn't see any Patches for skipping empty data sets. > >HSM treats these as normal since both migration and expiration can depend on >the existence of a valid backup copy. For this reason, HSM recently added >support for dat

Re: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

2019-01-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:02:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >You haven't lived until you have to talk to a vendor on the telephone while >surrounded by other conversations. To be fair, they don't appreciate your >reading out loud from the dump any more then you enjoy their chatter - which >might a

Re: Crosshair cursor

2019-01-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 09:12:34 -0600, Dana Mitchell wrote: > >I like the Vista function 'locate cursor'.When you press the corresponding >key(s), the cursor does your choice of blink or explode... > Isn't something like that endemic in Windows: dithering on CTRL makes the cursor explode? -- gi

Re: Pds Copy for Load Lib Members

2019-01-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 22:55:32 +, Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta) wrote: >I'm trying to write a copy program for Source code or Load Data from one Pds >to Another. > Doesn't IBM already supply one? >The Source Code part seems to be working...no issues. >The Load library code however, I cant seem to

Re: Pds Copy for Load Lib Members

2019-01-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 07:20:17 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote:. > >Remember that each member starts at some TTR location, where R is not >necessarily zero. And the number of bytes available on the track where an >output member starts is not necessarily, or even likely, the same as the >number of bytes t

Re: SMP/E Internet Receive Error

2019-01-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 10:50:30 -0500, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >On 1/8/2019 10:38 AM, daverankin...@gmail.com wrote: >> DATE 01/08/19 TIME 15:33:56 SMP/E GIMJVCLT OUTPUT SMP/E >> 36.98 >> ... >> Jan 08, 2019 3:34:06 PM com.ibm.smp.GIMJVCLT main >> SEVERE: A runtime exception o

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 15:19:28 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: >FYI, I also put REXX into that category if someone tries to be 'fancy'. >And I use REXX a lot. > (To what are you replying? Did this thread come from BITNET?) What do you consider "fancy" or "unreadable" Rexx? I know a FORTRAN programmer

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
e with bit or Boolean data >types. > I'll confess to having replaced: if A==B then X = 'FooBar'; else X = '' with: X = copies( 'FooBar', A==B ) >__ >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:59:07 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >for the code written in PL/S (nee BSL), the optional source has the generated >assembler with the source PL/S as comments; I found that reasonably easy to >work with even though I would rather have had a PL/S compiler. > Ugh! Working

Re: Do I need to copy a mainframe flat file to OMVS, before I access the data from a JAVA program?

2019-01-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:49:44 -0500, Cameron Conacher wrote: >Thank you Jerry. >Do I simply add a normal DD statement identifying my file? > >//MYFILE DD DSN=HLQ.MYFILE,DISP=OLD > DD may not work because java may run in a separate address space unless you have _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST. I'd concur with M

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 19:30:41 -0500, zMan wrote: >Semicolons?😀 > (My laptop doesn't speak emoji.) Semicolons, yes, but: do <=> { end<=> } switch <=> SELECT ... I think Rexx got much of its lexical flavor from PL/I. But that's easy for me to say becase I don't know PL/I.

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 20:27:30 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Keep in mind that wiki is a mixed bag; its emphasis of secondary sources over >primary sources tends to damage its reliability. Also, the URL you gave was >for PL/I rather than for REXX. > > >From:

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:49:07 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 1/11/2019 12:35 PM, David Spiegel wrote: >> (I've never encountered a TSO stack (outside of Rexx) in my 43 years of >> using TSO.) > It's there, and other implementations of Rexx, such as Regina, struggle to emulate it. >I suspect this is a

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 20:58:51 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >FSVO goto that lives in a different universe from PL/I. The REXX signal >statement trashes the stack rather than simply popping it appropriately. >Consider > SIGNAL trashes the DO nest but it does not update the CALL/RETURN stack. I e

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 21:15:20 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> It's there, and other implementations of Rexx, such as Regina, struggle to >> emulate it. > >All implementations of REXX provide a stack, but none of them even try to >provide the stack mechanisms that TSO has and CLIST DATA/DATA PROM

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 22:58:13 +, Rupert Reynolds wrote: >Fancy code? I remember once wanting to set a flag under certain circs, and >I considered something like: > >/* Rexx */ >TRUE = 1=1 >FALSE = \TRUE >. . . >flag = TRUE > >I can't remember now whether I used it, or hated it. > More concisel

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:07:41 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Well, I just voted for it (after I got past IBM's #$#@^! logon process). > >The driver for mainframe C was "porting industry applications" and few UNIX >applications retrieve ISPF statistics. > Via LM services, or TSO-free? (Heck, if por

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:57:28 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >IBM never upgraded TSO/E for the REXX standard. I see nothing in z/OS TSO/E >REXX Reference Version2 Release3, SA32-0972-30 about built-in variables TRUE >and FALSE. > Are these variables (like RC)? Can the programmer assign to them? (C

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 14:06:51 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: > >> On 13/01/2019 7:06 pm, Tony Thigpen wrote: >>> I have seen some reports that current C compilers, which understand >>> the z-hardware pipeline, can actually produce object that is faster >>> running than an assembler. Mainly because no sane a

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:46:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Given the size of PoOps, perhaps an RFE for a separate manual containing well >commented examples for all of the complex instructions, including sort. > Sounds like a Users Guide to me. > >From: C

Re: FW: Where's the fire? | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 07:43:36 -0500, Mark Regan wrote: >https://www.computerworld.com/article/601/data-center/wheres-the-fire.ht >ml > Broken URL. Fix your mailer. Or throw it away and get one that works. Or post via the web interface. -- gil --

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:51:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I don't recall ever seeing built-in variables TRUUE and FALSE, but I haven't >read the standard. > >http://www.rexxla.org/rexxlang/standards/ has ordering information and links. >At $125, I'd just go for the draft, but it's probably wort

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:08:28 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Oh. End of story. > >Thanks. > There are programmers who, for whatever reason, prefer to drag along ISPF rather than to drag along LE. For such people: z/OS IBM ISPF Services Guide Version 2 Release 3 SC19-3626-30 Dismayingly, I

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:20:03 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: >Quick and dirty from C to list directory and / or retrieve member >statistics: > >fopen("MY.PDS", "rb,type=record,noseek,recfm=u") >loop fread() ... 256 byte directory blocks until EOF >- process each member entry in the block. > See

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 00:52:02 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On 2019-01-16 18:43, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> FAMS information. >> >> o I don't know the API. > >And you won't, unless you make a significant contribution to IBM's coffers. > Customers need to p

Re: Using IF/THEN/ELSE for return code checking

2019-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:49:30 +, Ward Able, Grant wrote: >This seems simple and I may be having a senior moment, but I don’t seem to be >able to get this to work. >I have a number of batch jobs that do ADRDSSU backups, then execute a variable >number of PROC statements to copy files. > TSOBA

Re: [External] Re: Using IF/THEN/ELSE for return code checking

2019-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:11:46 +, Franzon, Stephen wrote: >But if BKDSN.RC = 4, then ( RC > 0 & BKDSN.RC <> 4 ) will evaluate false >regardless of the RC of any other step, which is not what is required. If any >other step has a non zero RC, then it needs to evaluate true. > I stand corrected

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:57:28 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >IBM never upgraded TSO/E for the REXX standard. I see nothing in z/OS TSO/E >REXX Reference Version2 Release3, SA32-0972-30 about built-in variables TRUE >and FALSE. > >More important, IMHO, is that IBM did not add the ANSI extensions to

Re: Unreadable code (Was: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue)

2019-01-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 19:20:43 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >Yes. Specifically, WITH input_redir [output_redir] [error_redir] . > >> Pointless for CMS or TSO since the concept of standard input/standard >> output is alien to each. > >Perhaps pointless for CMS, but the TSO stack has all of the ne

Re: zos program to supply web based client

2019-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 22:00:51 -0600, Tim Hare wrote: >I haven't seen the Apache web server mentioned for some reason. I haven't >used Apache but on the previous Domino-based web server you could write a Rexx >CGI (Common Gateway Interface, not Computer Generated Images) program that >could be

Re: Another IBM tape not for z/OS

2019-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 22:31:52 -0600, Tim Hare wrote: >I moved a lot of tape datasets to SMS managed disk, also, but one group of >application people fought the idea of using unique, catalog-able names for >their datasets. Pure laziness - they didn't want to go through the work of >making the ch

Re: BALR and BAL in AMODE=24

2019-01-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:13:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I've used the CC bits but never the ILC bits. > I've used them to tell whether I was on 370 hardware or 31-bit mode on XA hardware. I did not support 24-bit mode on XA hardware. -- gil --

Re: how many OSes run on IBMz

2019-01-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:25:48 +0100, R.S. wrote: > >It depends. >There were historical OSes like Amdahl UTS or AIX/ESA. >There is "something" like CFCC (Coupling Facility Control Code). >There is z/VM which is hypervisor or just OS. >Sometimes TPF was not counted as OS even by IBM. >There is/was Op

Re: NFS Mount Failure

2019-01-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:44:25 -0500, Kevin Mckenzie wrote: >Right. touch is a standard unix command; it officially is used for >updating the access or last modified time of a file, but it's often used >sort of as a utility command in the way IEFBR14 can be used to create a >file. > >So I would thi

Re: Are there compiler options to move Working Storage in Cobol above the line?

2019-01-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 19:47:23 +, Edgington, Jerry wrote: > >For Cobol, the DATA parm determines where the work storage is loaded. >DATA(31) means it will attempt to loaded above the line. However, the program >must also be at least RMODE(31) or ANY. And if during the compile, there is >any

Re: IARV64 - why ABEND rather than return with reason code?

2019-01-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 16:37:09 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Well I must be really contrary or else I got out of the wrong side of the >bed this morning. @Peter and @Ed are of course two of the people I most >admire in the field of assembler and MVS, but I totally disagree with almost >everything the

Re: Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: how many OSes run on IBMz

2019-01-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:44:54 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: > >Seeing a name like BS2000 or BS3000 made me think of a hypothetical marketing >department where their product is so useless, but they proudly sell it, by >naming it BS2000. >They call the new and improved version BS3000. > >

Re: Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: how many OSes run on IBMz

2019-01-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:23:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >For the same reason that Nova (No va) is funny in Hispanic countries; BS has a >colloquial meaning in the US. > That's disputed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chevrolet-nova-name-spanish/ -- gil

Re: IARV64 - why ABEND rather than return with reason code?

2019-01-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 23:47:09 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: > >> If I were designing >> FREEMAIN from scratch, I would drop the LENGTH and just always free >> the entire block. Yes, you would lose the ability to free half of a >> buffer -- but gain some simplicity of design, and eliminate the >> nas

Re: IKJEFT1B program name SMF

2019-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:19:07 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: > >Let's say there's a REXX program being run in batch with >PGM=IKJEFB1B,PARM='%SOMETHING'. >I'm sure SMF records program names.. but is there any field that also captures >the REXX that's being run via IKJEFT01 or IKJEFT1B? >

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:06:51 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote: >... >Anyway, we attempted the RESTORE, but we got lots and lots of error messages >saying we need to include other PTFs in the RESTORE. Some of these have an >indirect connection to A and B; B superceded at least three of them, for >exampl

Style (was: Newbie SMP/E questions)

2019-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:23:06 +, David Spiegel wrote: >Hi Bob, >2) Yes for the current situation. If, however, PTFs between base and >your new PTFs are ACCEPTd, no. >> ... [about 20 lines skipped] >> Question #2) ... What ever became of the venerable practice of interleaving replies close to

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:46:39 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote: >Never heard of CA-MSM, but I'll look into it. (I've been in contact with Bob >Boerum at CA, but he's never mentioned it.) > >We've been using the SMP/E panels, and, as you say, letting them construct the >JCL. > Yes. And I always save t

Style (was: Newbie SMP/E questions)

2019-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2019-01-29, at 09:52:18, Allan Staller wrote: > Comments interspersed. > > HTH, > Thanks. It would further be useful if you distinguished quoted material with the customary ">" prefix. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Bob Bridges > Sent: T

Re: Style (was: Newbie SMP/E questions)

2019-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
. Too much misguided DWIM. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:06 AM > > On 2019-01-29, at 09:52:18, Allan Staller wrote: > >> Comments interspersed. >> >> HTH, >> > Thanks. It would further be usef

Re: IKJEFT1B program name SMF

2019-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 09:08:07 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >To the best of my (possibly faulty, of course) recollection SMF does not >record PARM= anywhere under any circumstances -- other than if it somehow gets >used in a way that ends up in SMF, e.g. a program that takes PARM=ddname and >then

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