On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:06:51 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote:
>...
>Anyway, we attempted the RESTORE, but we got lots and lots of error messages 
>saying we need to include other PTFs in the RESTORE.  Some of these have an 
>indirect connection to A and B; B superceded at least three of them, for 
>example, which I can see were applied some years ago.  Others have no relation 
>to our PTFs that I can discern.  I haven't yet found the place in the User's 
>Guide that explains these relationship and their relevance.  Can someone give 
>a helpful explanation?
>
>Question #2) So far as we can tell by issuing LIST XREF commands, whoever ran 
>this thing in the past never did any ACCEPT, ever, except for the original 
>function code.  I see at least 11 PTFs that were applied (including our two), 
>but the distribution library shows no PTFs for any module I've yet LISTed.  If 
>true, does that mean that to do a RESTORE of our two PTFs we'll have to 
>RESTORE everything back to the plain-vanilla base?
> 
Either that, or ACCEPT everything up to exactly the level you want to fall back 
to.
RESTORE will revert only to an ACCEPTed service level.

>Question #3) My partner the not-sysprog has in mind that maybe we need to set 
>aside this CSI (which is dedicated to Top Secret) and create another one 
>starting with the base software and build up from there.  I didn't realize 
>this could be done, but she thinks she can do it.  If it'll work, I like it; 
>we'll know in that case what we have, which we do not at present.  Anyone have 
>any thoughts on this plan?
>
Good idea.  Or, even, copy the CSI (SMP/E has commands for this) and experiment
on the copy.

>Question #4) This is a less-important add-on:  In both the online 
>documentation and the User's Guide, I read if I'm doing a RESTORE and name 
>PTFs A and B, including the GROUP operand causes SMP/E to add whatever other 
>PTFs are required for various reasons.  It doesn't seem to, though; it names 
>them and complains about them, but doesn't add them to the list.  Have I 
>misunderstood something?  I'm loathe to believe the documentation is flat 
>wrong.
>
>If you're getting ready to send rushed messages saying "DON'T DO ANYTHING 
>UNTIL YOU'VE CHECKED...", relax; we're planning to go slow.
> 
Unfortunately ACCEPT CHECK does not set things up properly for a RESTORE CHECK.

SMP/E sorely needs an "UNDO" command (and associated UNDO CHECK) to revert
the state exactly to an earlier service level.  ACCEPT-RESTORE doesn't come 
close.
The alternative is to HSM restore from an HSM backup.

-- gil

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