Reminds me of the time that someone asked what changes are going in with a
maintenance cycle. Supplied them with a LISTMCS of all the PTFs that were
applied. Never heard back from them again.
Mark Jacobs
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First, what are the big financial institutions running? PC Architecture? maybe
for some front ends. No, Mainframes….Best architecture, structure, speed for
transaction processing, etc. I ran a mainframe using z/VM, Four z/OS Imagines
and one sub z/VM image to support some old hardware (3340)
We have had some spirited internal discussions on SMP/E best practice for
applying z/OS maintenance while maintaining an environment for emergency PTFs
as neededI upgrade z/OS version on a two year cycleCurrent process for a lot of
maintenance with about a year's worth of RSUs
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As always Sam, thank you for all that you do!
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On Tuesday, December 10th, 2024 at 10:31 AM, Sam Golob
wrote:
> Dear Folks,
>
> If you have any problems relating to SYS1.BRODCAST, or the BROADCAST
> datase
Dear Folks,
If you have any problems relating to SYS1.BRODCAST, or the BROADCAST
dataset in general, you are welcome to run them by me, since I wrote two
packages of programs to deal with SYS1.BRODCAST problems, maintenance,
and related matters.
IBM's help in these matters is probably
Scott,
Thanks again for the detail.
Firstly a couple of questions.
1. Can XTIOT only be requested by using Dynamic Allocation?
2. Is XTIOT only available to authorised callers?
Looking at the allocation failures in question I have,
IEFA111I IS USING THE FOLLOWING JOB RELATED SETTINGS:
Can we first stop and be impressed that an auditor understands enough to ask
about this?
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Let your au
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That is a rather amazing thing. That an auditor can even spell s-m-p-e
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Phil Smith III
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Hi list,
We have a Cobol/VSAM/CICS+batch application that the developers want to convert
the Cobol/VSAM part to Java/Db2, still residing on the mainframe. I have java
8 (both 31 bit and 64 bit) as well as java 11 and 17 on the mainframe - the
parts that are "no additional cost" with z/OS 3.1.
ITschak
We don’t keep the log files from that far back. I have apply listings that
they have pored over (the auditor used to be a sysprog). Our audit process
says that I have to keep all apply listings, well, being a manual process (sdsf
XDC command), one of the larger Apply listings is miss
The first question to ask is do you have any zIIP processors ? This makes a big
difference if you are planning to run java of any flavor. It will depend on
whether you have the JDK or JRE versions of java on how easy it is to do
development natively on the mainframe
Jerry Whitteridge
Sr Manage
You did misunderstand. I didn’t say that I put it on the SYSRES. I said I
maintain a complete SMPE environment that matches each SYSRES.
Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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Steve Estle <05dcac13570d-dmarc-req
What do you get if you type “javac -version”? If you have the java compiler
(javac) then you have (at least part of) the JDK and not just the JRE.
Peter
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Thanks Kurt. That was a head slapper….
Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Kurt Quackenbush
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 at 1:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMPE and auditors
> is there a I
Paul,
That is a very illuminating table!
I had not seen that before and it certainly appears to show that the 257 is
about right. There were a few other allocations in the job step of course.
Thank you Paul. The collective intelligence of this group is a valuable
resource.
Lennie
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I'm betting the auditor's level of understanding is pretty low here --
probably just a concept that putting code with a known error into
production is always bad. The reality of course is that if you have
been doing z/OS maintenance long enough, you know every system placed
into production h
If you have z/OS Debugger, a fairly simple script can get the debugger to
write to the log file a trace of programs that have been called and labels
(eg. COBOL paragraph names) of statements executed.
Here's an example of JCL to run a batch job and have z/OS Debugger write a
trace of programs call
Thanks, Peter,
I found the "javac" command in an earlier internet search and when I tried it I
got "not found". Just did a find on the tree and found all 4 of them, 8/31,
8/64, 11 and 17.
javac 17.0.9
Rex
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Farley,
On 11/12/2024 4:33 am, Pommier, Rex wrote:
We have a Cobol/VSAM/CICS+batch application that the developers want to convert the
Cobol/VSAM part to Java/Db2, still residing on the mainframe. I have java 8 (both 31 bit
and 64 bit) as well as java 11 and 17 on the mainframe - the parts that are "n
Kurt….I was hoping you would speak up, thanks for confirming that there is no
reporting method for what they want.Its Audit.Because we apply
maintenance twice per year, the ERRSYSMODS report is pretty lengthy after 6
months.
He wants to pin me down on 1) not applying knowingly defective
> Well, what he was wanting to see was all the listings to see that there were
> no BYPASS HOLD ERROR specified.
You can't get this kind of info from the CSI, so they'd have to review the
SMPLOGs or APPLY output listings. But it sure seems like an odd request to me.
Why not check the results
You might want an IDE, although it is by no means mandatory.
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Dave,
Two quick thoughts:
1. Might be good to post this on the RACF forum as my guess is it is a more
"auditor" knowledgeable audience over there and possible ways to best handle...
2. Even though you don't have SMPLOG's as far back as he wants - I would still
send him what you have. Hopefull
We have a ZIIP (small shop, only 2 subcapacity general purpose engines on the
machine besides the ZIIP. I don't know offhand if I have the JDK or just the
JRE. Is there an easy way to find out? Is the JDK an additional cost?
If I run java17 I get this.
Prod1:RRP:/usr/lpp/java/J17.0_64/bin:
Not a bad idea going forward Steve. I may just supersize my SMP Log files.
They’ve been pitifully smally historically. My SYSRES cloning process does
build an entire matching SMPE environment including the LOGS(which I hadn’t
thought about), so they would match what was applied. I think I
What we do is run
REPORT ERRSYSMODS ZONES(DSNTARG) NOPUNCH report and look for secint ptf an and
then run apply check only for them. Performance and availability is
important, but not for helping hackers
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Platform* *|* *Inform
I hate quoting my own posts, but Kurt, is there a IBM provided utility to print
with formatting the SMP LOGS? I’ll admit, I haven’t gone looking in the manual
for this yet.
Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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Jous
> is there a IBM provided utility to print with formatting the SMP LOGS?
Yes, the SMP/E LIST LOG command.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=commands-log-command
Kurt Quackenbush
IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com
Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he
As a matter of interest, Lennie, are these data sets allocated and de-allocated
sequentially, or all at the same time? Question to others: Does that matter in
terms of (X)TIOT slots?
Cheers, Martin
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Lennie Bradshaw
Date: Tuesday, 10 December 20
Hi Martin,
These data sets are allocated by zSecure, so I would have to enquire of them
whether they attempt to multitask their allocations. My rather old history
tells me that allocation used to serialise quite substantially, thus making any
subtask allocation process wait, but maybe things are
All,
I have an auditor that would like to see if there were any PTF’s applied in my
environment where BYPASS HOLDERROR was specified. Its not enough for me to
tell them that there weren’t any. I have been playing around with SMPE list
commands, and can list PTF’s where BYPASS was specified,
Let your auditor access to the smp log files and find the answer himself.
ITschak
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Ok. For the first issue, send him report of holddata and list of installed
ptfs and let him do the match ;-)
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https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/zOS%20Preventive%20Maintenance%20Strategy_1.pdf
IBM creates RSUs quarterly and suggests applying 2-4 times a year.
Have management consider quarterly RSU implementations, Explain
monthly PUT tapes have less testing of PTFs and therefore
zIIP workload can migrate to CPs if you don't have enough. Needs to
be monitored to manage costs.
https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article/244576/xcom-ziip-usage.html
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 11:41 AM Jerry Whitteridge
wrote:
>
> The first question to ask is do you have any zIIP processor
SMPE List Log statement:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=syntax-smplog - As I'm sure you
know typically there is a separate log for each zone - Global, Target, DLIB
Also, not sure if I understood correctly but I never recommend putting SMPE
logs (or CSI's) onto sysres volume - usual
All,
I know this likely has a lot of grey area so don't bombard me with 101
questions :-).
My question is has anyone seen any recent all encompassing TCO mainframe value
presentations that you felt really ticked all the boxes in persuading IT
audiences (knowledgeable and unknowledgeable) on
Has the presentation for accessing the z/OS debugger via RDz been updated for
IDz and IEz?
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Well, the 257 datasets (DDs) seems about right if they all are using a
volume count of 59. Based on the volume count you would be allowed a
maximum of 259 DDs in the step. That's based on a TIOT size of 64.
"So while I cannot reconcile the numbers of allocated datasets with the
number of TIOT sl
Not just programs, though. Functions. Sorta like systrace on Linux and friends.
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Peter Van Dyke
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 7:27 PM
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If you have z/OS De
I’m going to say this because we all learned via RTFM. I would suggest that
you dump the SMPe output to paper. Point the auditors at the PDF’s and tell
them come back in a week with questions.
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> On Dec 10, 2024, at 18:16, Joel Ewi
Later in this thread it was mentioned that the auditor used to be a
sysprog. However, many if not most auditors work from a cookbook
without understanding much of what the cookbook tells them to check.
What nobody has mentioned yet is that there is a valid reason for
applying a PTF with an er
You should have everything you need, but I’ll add some “footnotes”:
* IBM has released Version 21 of the IBM Semeru Runtime Certified Edition for
z/OS, available to z/OS licensees at no additional charge. Versions 11 and 8
you really shouldn't bother with at this point since they'll reach End of
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