Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Dave Gibney
The description does not state the alignment is required. It states that with ETF-2 installed, the table will be treated as if it was doubleword aligned eve if it is not actually so aligned. At least that is how I read ir. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On >

Re: OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Oujesky
for SSD, Microwave oven, For regular HDD, physical destruction or very high intensity magnetic field (MRI). Michael At 12:57 PM 11/1/2024, willie bunter wrote: Good Day To All, Can anybody suggest how I can delete all the files, software etc. from an old laptop before I scrap it? The

Re: OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread Steve Thompson
If you can, get a copy of KNOPPIX (Linux), and burn it to a CD. Now boot that CD (it will be "live") and now you can use it to format the hard drives, over write them, etc. It is a good tool to have for diagnosing a machine or find out what all it actually has. Or, you could tell it to instal

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Linda Chui
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:47:36 +0100, René Jansen wrote: >Reading through the release notes (the "what's new") of the LLVM-Clang based >C/C++ compiler for z/OS I see support for 32-bit programs and XPLINK32 >linkage. Now I have to admit that I not followed all news closely but I even >have a hard

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:45:28 + "Schmitt, Michael" wrote: :>The size is constant, and is known at compile time. :>If the size is 1 to 4,096 bytes then you get a series of MVCs, not a loop. And make sure equal alignment :>-Original Message- :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On B

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Farley, Peter
COBOL “01” level definitions (and “77” level as well) in WORKING-STORAGE and LOCAL-STORAGE are doubleword-aligned. This was the case even before Enterprise COBOL. I don’t remember at this point whether ANS COBOL V4 introduced that alignment or if even the old MVT COBOL’s (E and F) aligned as w

OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All,     Can anybody suggest how I can delete all the files, software etc. from an old laptop before I scrap it?  The laptop in question is a DELL VISTA.  I asked the experts at DELL but they couldn't tell me because of a lack of documentation. Thanks. Willie ---

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Kirk Wolf
True, but there are lot's of reasons for not wanting to port your 31-bit C/C++ to 64 bit. One example is when you are using XPLINK-31 with C/C++ and have a bunch of XPLINK assembler that calls system services/macros that require 31-bit parameters. Being able to use pointers to C/C++ data d

Re: AUTOCMD

2024-11-01 Thread Steve Beaver
In my prior response I had not taken into account that you can execute an HLASM program That can issue the MGCR/MGCRE Regards, Steve Beaver -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dave Gibney Sent: Wednesday, October 30,

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Joe Monk
"I wonder: are IBM z/OS products written in C,..." PL/X Joe On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 1:07 PM Kirk Wolf wrote: > True, but there are lot's of reasons for not wanting to port your 31-bit > C/C++ to 64 bit. > > One example is when you are using XPLINK-31 with C/C++ and have a bunch of > XPLINK ass

Re: OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread Farley, Peter
There are “shredding” programs out there for sale which you can boot from a CD/DVD or USB stick which can wipe (with varying degrees of security depending on how paranoid you are) any disk. Try search argument “hard drive wipe software”. Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Kirk Wolf
That's Interesting Michael. Did you see any cases where the Cobol compiler generated unrolled loops of MVCs (like 4 each iteration)? I've seen that in cases with C/C++, but I don't remember the conditions. It's really wild how they do it as I recall. It may have to do with the settings of

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Mike Schwab
I don't know if this is the case here, but it is possible to write a program to run in addressing mode 64 but use 32 bit instructions so it works inside the 4GB address range. On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 11:46 AM Tony Harminc wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 at 08:59, René Jansen wrote: > > > Reading th

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Schmitt, Michael
No cases of loops of more than one MVC. And to answer someone else's post: both work areas were aligned (they were COBOL "01" levels). I think they're fullword aligned. If anyone wants to try this test, my complete program is: - identification division. program-id. 'cobtest

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
What are you trying to ask? How wide are your data? In general, if you run AMODE64 then you need to ensure that all 64 bits of your base and index registers are valid. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר _

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Stein
> > @Shmuel: you know that an MVC loop is dramatically faster than MVCL? > > Surprising but true. > > MVCL handles zero-length moves. MVC never did. > MVCL handles variable-length moves, automatically. > MVCL is interruptible. MVCL has to check for overlap, possibly before starting any data move

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 at 08:59, René Jansen wrote: > Reading through the release notes (the "what's new") of the LLVM-Clang > based C/C++ compiler for z/OS I see support for 32-bit programs and > XPLINK32 linkage. Now I have to admit that I not followed all news closely > but I even have a hard time

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Adam Johanson
The MVC vs. MVCL considerations are discussed as FAQ #1 in the (excellent) IBM Z / LinuxONE System Processor Optimization Primer : https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-z-linuxone-system-processor-optimization-primer === Adam Johanson Broadcom Mainframe Software Divis

32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread René Jansen
Reading through the release notes (the "what's new") of the LLVM-Clang based C/C++ compiler for z/OS I see support for 32-bit programs and XPLINK32 linkage. Now I have to admit that I not followed all news closely but I even have a hard time googling this. I thought there is 24-,31- and 64-bit s

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 at 16:24, Dave Gibney < 06fb76de82cb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > The description does not state the alignment is required. It states that > with ETF-2 installed, the table will be treated as if it was doubleword > aligned eve if it is not actually so aligned. At

Re: OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Personally I'd remove the drive and use a physical destruction method on it. Without the drive the laptop is useless. If doubly paranoid you could pull the memory too. Jerry Whitteridge Sr Manager Managed Services jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com 480 578 7889 -Original Message- From: IB

Re: OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024, at 19:18, Jerry Whitteridge wrote: > Personally I'd remove the drive and use a physical destruction method > on it. That's what I've done with old HDDs - remove platters from casing, scratch and bend them out of shape, and put platters into different bins heading to land-fill

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2024-11-01 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
5lb Sledge hammer is my preferred choice Jerry Whitteridge Sr Manager Managed Services jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com 480 578 7889 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jeremy Nicoll Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subj

Re: OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread Steve Thompson
Most SSDs that I've seen are plugged in to anchor and connect to them, with the other end with a screw into a threaded hole to keep them in place. So you can pull those and smash them. If you have "high" amperage, say, 50A at 250V, connect them to that flip the switch and I hope you can stand

Re: OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:57:16 +, willie bunter wrote: >    Can anybody suggest how I can delete all the files, software etc. from an >old laptop before I scrap it?  The laptop in question is a DELL VISTA.  I >asked the experts at DELL but they couldn't tell me because of a lack of >document

Re: OFF TOPIC - DELETING ALL FILES SOFTWARE FROM A LAPTOP

2024-11-01 Thread Schmitt, Michael
Questions: 1. What is the exact model? 2. Does it have an OS on it? Which one? 3. Does it boot? 4. Does it have a CD-ROM drive? If not, do you have an external CD-ROM drive? 5. Do you have a USB flash drive? 6. Is this for personal use, vs. business? Reason for the questions: 1. Some computers hav

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
I find that MVCL does exactly what I want for unequal lengths. A lot of times I want a zero pad, and that's automatic. I've never run into a use case for an unequal length move with no pad. What I would like are: SS: FILL fill a range of addresses with a specified value. RR: MVCLSTR Like MVCL,

Re: Bounded string move?

2024-11-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 at 08:27, Peter Relson wrote: > Shmuel wrote: > TROO comes closest to doing what I want, but it has that pesky alignment > requirement. > > OK, I'll bite. What alignment requirement? Are you referring to this: > > From POp: > When the ETF2-enhancement facility is not > install