"I wonder:  are IBM z/OS products written in C,..."

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Joe

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 1:07 PM Kirk Wolf <k...@coztoolkit.com> wrote:

> True, but there are lot's of reasons for not wanting to port your 31-bit
> C/C++ to 64 bit.
>
> One example is when you are using XPLINK-31 with C/C++ and have a bunch of
> XPLINK assembler that calls system services/macros that require 31-bit
> parameters.   Being able to use pointers to C/C++ data directly or even use
> the XPLINK-31 stack is very nice.    Porting would be non-trivial, and
> could negatively affect performance.
>
> I wonder:  are IBM z/OS products written in C, like Shells and Utilities,
> OpenSSH, etc 31 bit or 64 bit?
>
>
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
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> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, at 12:24 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > What are you trying to ask? How wide are your data?
> >
> > In general, if you run AMODE64 then you need to ensure that all 64 bits
> of your base and index registers are valid.
> >
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> > I don't know if this is the case here, but it is possible to write a
> > program to run in addressing mode 64 but use 32 bit instructions so it
> > works inside the 4GB address range.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 11:46 AM Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 at 08:59, René Jansen <rvjan...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reading through the release notes (the "what's new") of the
> LLVM-Clang
> > > > based C/C++ compiler for z/OS I see support for 32-bit programs and
> > > > XPLINK32 linkage. Now I have to admit that I not followed all news
> closely
> > > > but I even have a hard time googling this. I thought there is
> 24-,31- and
> > > > 64-bit support on z/OS. Is this new and where can we read about this?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't think there's anything architecturally new here - "32-bit" is
> often
> > > used in the non-mainframe world as a contrast to "64-bit", and indeed
> even
> > > S/360 can be said to be a 32-bit architecture. It's only the way that
> > > address arithmetic and use works that uses 1 (21-bit) or 8 (24-bit)
> high
> > > address bits as flags. In 64-bit mode all bits are address bits, i.e.
> there
> > > is no 63-bit mode.
> > >
> > > More succinctly, it's "how wide are the registers", and perhaps "how
> big is
> > > a pointer in C"?
> > >
> > > Tony H.
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