W dniu 21.02.2023 o 01:23, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
In the JCL Ref. I read:
Chapter 19. INCLUDE statement
Purpose: Use the INCLUDE statement to:
• Identify the name of the member of a partitioned data set (PDS) or
partitioned data set extended (PDSE) that contains a set of JCL
This isn't a 'problem' per se, just an observation that someone else may be
able to shed some light on...
In SDSF, the DA panel presentation can be modified using the 'View' option.
For my logon id I have brought the column named 'Tran-Act' in to view, and
then sorted the display so that Tran-Act
Hi Brian,
You said: "...so why would they question my use of anything I need in
order to perform my job efficiently? ..."
My answer is that the people in charge are by-the-book mentality and I
can imagine them using ISPF Panels for everything from RACF to SMP/e.
(At one of my jobs, the MVS Team
The SDSF "TranAct" column is based entirely on the R791TTOD field returned by
ERBSMFI (which in turn is based on OUCBTMO).
This 32-bit value contains the number of milliseconds since the "last
transaction".
The meaning of "last transaction" varies with the workload, so for some address
spaces
Thanks, Rob - it all makes sense now.
I tried to have a look at my type-79 data, only to find there isn't any
being collected. It seems I have to set up RMF monitor II to collect that.
Maybe I'll think about that later.
Migration to z/OS 2.5 is something planned for later this year.
Regards
Sean
Well, I finally figured out why the -3.
And it is because LISTDSI as a function is not recognized as a
command, hence -3 (which at least one of you was indicating).
I wish to thank you all for your assistance and even code samples
that are NOT what I'm working on. For clarity only, at this po
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 23:06:44 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
>
>Maybe they're setting up to allow UNIX files.
>
I and co-workers have earnestly wished for mixed concatenations in STEPLIB.
o To be able to execute the same program object both in JCL and OMVS.
o To be able to direct "make" targets to STE
IMHO the root cause is that people see what they expect to see; hence the value
of code and design reviews, where the code is read by a fresh pair of eyes with
no expectations. I've often found that when I ask someone else for help and
start explaining what the code is supposed to do, my view sh
Oh I can't tell you how many times, working on an electrical
problem, trying to fix something mechanical (car, motorcycle,
airplane, etc.) and especially IT stuff (JOB streams, REXX,
COBOL, ALC, conditional assembly, etc.) that explaining what you
are doing to someone else
That is what ma
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 15:51:23 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>IMHO the root cause is that people see what they expect to see; hence the
>value of code and design reviews, where the code is read by a fresh pair of
>eyes with no expectations. ...
>
For the provider side, documentation should contain
So David, you consider using ISPF panels a net negative? I used to write
dialogs for anything repetitive that I or anyone else had to do.
Never thought it was bad if "people in charge are by-the-book mentality
and I can imagine them using ISPF Panels for everything from RACF to
SMP/e." Especial
SMF 79 records are handed back to a ERBSMFI caller-supplied buffer in contrast
to the traditional “push” of SMFWTM/SMFEWTM, so you will not find them in the
normal SMF record MANx or offload datasets.
If you are using RMF, then 79-1 records will be returned even if RMF is not
active (other subt
Hi Doug,
I consider relying on ISPF Panels *solely* negative, especially when
SysProgs should learn the Command Line, in particular for RACF Commands.
This is a sign of laziness.
I've also been in jobs where I maintained/added to ISPF Applications to
e.g. create a z/OS Clone, where the user fil
Airplane?? In high-school I once helped replace a broken flap on a
Piper Tri-pacer. The WW2 pilot then told me the repair guy always goes
up for the test flight, which I did.
One thing I use often is youtube, where it seems easy to find repair
instructions for almost anything (like the truck
Steve wrote:
>So the question of where LISTDSI is found is moot, in that my
>environment is correct once using "CC = 'LISTDSI' ('SYSUT1 FILE')".
The quotes around LISTDSI serve no function, unless you are inside a
routine with the same name and you don't want recursion. Since the
interpreter only
Sorry, but I agree to disagree. The panels can have the effect of making
staff FAR more efficient than learning command line TSO even for RACF.
I can use them both, but I started in RACF way before there were any
dialogs. Rather than "laziness" think efficiency.
I prefer 3.2 to typing "allocate
I sit on the fence regarding command line vs ISPF panels.
Command line can be a life saver if you screw up your logon procedure. I've
seen many people use CONCAT type ISPF panels and add a load library to the
source library ISP and boom. At that point, it's handy to understand the
RENAME command o
imhoYou seem to be disagreeing with something he never wrote. Nobody here has
argued against heavy use of ISPF panels. Nobody here has claimed that they
don't use them heavily. The key word in David's reply, which he emphasized, was
"solely".
IMHO a systems programmer should know the tools at
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:56:43 -0600, Hobart Spitz wrote:
>...
>I prefer CALL LISTDSI "SYSUT1 FILE", which is almost the same as RESULT =
>LISTDSI("SYSUT1 FILE"). IMHO, these examples in IBM documentation are
>misleading and potentially can result in broken code. A CALLed routine is
>NOT requir
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 18:26, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
> I have a whole collection of handy ISPF panel driven utilities and use the
> excellent Frank Clarke IMBED utilities. This makes them extremely portable,
> everything in one piece of REXX code, no need to go looking for panels,
> messages and
I forgot what system it was (maybe a panel system on AIX?) where you can
run through the panel selections checking various options, but with the
ability to show the final command issued. I'm pretty sure things like
RACF, RMM, and some other ISPF dialogs just issue TSO commands under the
covers
Some submit jobs, and I've often scavenged the generated JCL to use as a basis
for other jobs. But I'm always prepared to enter the JCL and input myself when
appropriate. A good servant but a poor master.
Same for CLI versus GUI; I find a GUI convenient for a lot of tasks but write
scripts for
I believe SMIT gave that option and I have often wished there was a similar
function on z/OS with ISPF panels.
Rex
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That's it! Thanks for the reminder.
On 2/21/2023 12:29 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
I believe SMIT gave that option and I have often wished there was a similar
function on z/OS with ISPF panels.
Rex
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I have access to a development z/OS system with the full VS Pascal product
installed (not just the runtime library), and would like to experiment with it
just for fun, but I cannot find any VS Pascal documentation anywhere on
ibm.com. Even starting at ibm.com/docs fails with a timeout, though I
Does this help?
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/OS_VS/pascal/
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Or this?
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/OS_VS/vs_pascal/
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Just wondering if this is just OZ or global.
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Thanks Mark, I actually found those too after I posted my earlier request.
Peter
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A private email pointed me to this location instead of ibm.com/docs:
https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications
And the VS Pascal docs I was looking for can be found there.
Peter
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I have a 1978 hardcopy of Programming in Pascal, Peter Grogono. Where can I
send it ?
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After hunting about I found that IBM have noticed.
I suppose it will be back after I finish for the day.
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