Thanks, Rob - it all makes sense now.
I tried to have a look at my type-79 data, only to find there isn't any
being collected. It seems I have to set up RMF monitor II to collect that.
Maybe I'll think about that later.
Migration to z/OS 2.5 is something planned for later this year.

Regards
Sean

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 13:07, Rob Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

> The SDSF "TranAct" column is based entirely on the R791TTOD field returned
> by ERBSMFI (which in turn is based on OUCBTMO).
>
> This 32-bit value contains the number of milliseconds since the "last
> transaction".
>
> The meaning of "last transaction" varies with the workload, so for some
> address spaces in might reflect the initial program execution and could be
> used to estimate its "up-time".
>
> For TSO users, the "last transaction" will be updated each time ENTER is
> pressed and it is entirely possible that other workloads , for example z/OS
> Unix, have methods to inform WLM to update OUCBTMO.
>
> Note that R791TMO can only hold x'FFFFFFFF', so for systems that have not
> been IPLed for many months this figure is either going to wrap or stay
> static  (I am not sure which happens).
>
> (For what it is worth, when SDSF detects that a job has been active for
> more than x'FFFFFFFF' milliseconds, then we show zeroes for the TRANACT and
> TRANRES columns)
>
> Note that SDSF "DA" now has the "Start Date" column in z/OS 2.5 to aid
> users trying to work out the up-time of the ASIDs.
>
> Rob Scott
> Rocket Software
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf
> Of Sean Gleann
> Sent: 21 February 2023 10:01
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: An SDSF curiosity...
>
> EXTERNAL EMAIL
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>
>
>
>
> This isn't a 'problem' per se, just an observation that someone else may
> be able to shed some light on...
>
> In SDSF, the DA panel presentation can be modified using the 'View' option.
> For my logon id I have brought the column named 'Tran-Act' in to view, and
> then sorted the display so that Tran-Act is in ascending sequence.
>
> An excerpt for a current display is: (hoping this doesn't get
> reformatted...)
>  NP   JOBNAME  StepName ProcStep JobID      Tran-Act   CPU%   CPU-Time
>       BUILD5   *OMVSEX           STC24665    0:00:00   0.34       0.01
>       BUILD2   STEP1             STC23744    0:00:14  22.72       9.53
>       OMVS     OMVS     OMVS                 5:35:02   0.21    1228.64
>       BUILD9   *OMVSEX           STC23888   14:07:22   2.50    1458.22
>       SSHD6    STEP1             STC23925   14:07:22   0.00       3.49
>       IMS14J11 IMS14J11 JMPRGN   JOB23674   34:44:13   0.00       0.44
>       IMS14F11 IMS14F11 IFP      JOB23671   34:44:21   0.00       0.01
>
> At the bottom of this excerpt, there are two tasks associated with an IMS
> region that was started shortly after the system was  IPL'd, nearly 35
> hours ago. In the full display, there are a number of other tasks below
> this that all have Tran-Act times that are roughly the same.
>
> Above the IMS-related tasks, there are two tasks that have been running
> for a bit over 14 hours.
>
> The OMVS task above that has apparently been running for only five and
> half hours or so, and that is the curiosity...
>
> OMVS is started at IPL time, just like the IMS region in the example
> above, and it is never terminated until we shut the system down again. (in
> the shutdown sequence, it is the last thing to be terminated before JES can
> be stopped).
>
> So why isn't OMVS's "Tran-Act" time in the same ball park as the IMS tasks?
>
> Regards
> Sean
>
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