Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
When you are only about 1/2 thorough the apar list, if you print more than 1000 jobs before restarting VPSIP, it would abend, the jobs all needed to use|need SYS1.IMAGELIB. Then when we got to #18 on the list, the site could produce 84,000+ jobs (again all needed SYS1.IMAGELIB), before the aben

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
I completely agree, when I apply maintenance, I ALWAYS create an entirely new target and dlib zone, and I keep the old one for at least a year. Brian On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 14:23:56 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 19:00:04 +, Jousma, David wrote: > >>I suspect you won't have

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
You run into it when (for instance), VPSIP gets the 16e abend but won't come down. Unfortunately, we found it the 'hard" way by cancelling VPSIP only to have to IPL when IGC00020 went into a tight loop. It's still not completely fixed, but we know now not to let VPSIP get anywhere close to th

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
That seems fair. If you don't have VPSIP, or don't use it to the extent that some of our clients do, then you are good to go. Brian On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:10:32 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >The only reason I considered the bypass was because the PE chain was >preventing the APPLY of the PTFs

Re: DAE Mystery

2019-09-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Where would I look in the WLM ISPF application to check that? Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:38 PM,

Re: DAE Mystery

2019-09-18 Thread Jousma, David
We are SHARED DAE in our plex too, but I suspect it would be the same in a non-shared configuration, but just on the one system. When I use IPCS option 3.5 to modify an entry to Take the next dump, it appears that IPCS is issuing a SETDAE=01, which stops DAE, and then turns around and issues a

Re: DAE Mystery

2019-09-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Hmm, Thanks. I'll try it myself. One of our developers needed to delete a DAE entry, don't know how he did it. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message

Re: DAE Mystery

2019-09-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Thanks. That was big help. I needed to add the GLOBALSTOP option to ADYSET01. It's working now. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wed

Re: Question on LDAPSRV running on z/OS

2019-09-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
This is a right place; RACF-L is more focused but smaller. Did you activate support for mixed-case passwords? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, Septem

Re: C headers in z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Why does everyone assume that having MACLIB/MODGEN headers in C (or any other language) is only for systems-level code and exits? There are quite a few business application programs and customer-specific utility programs out here that can and do use what you may consider "system' API's to satis

Re: C headers in z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread David Crayford
You make a valid point but it comes down to IBM assigning resources (money) to where they can add the most value to the customer. I would argue that instead of publishing COBOL copybooks for control blocks a better API would be callable services to provide the required information, such as your

Re: C headers in z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Agreed 100%, but in the meantime I'll take the control block translations if I can get them and write the callable service myself. Or guide the new hire who knows C to do it for me in Metal C and thereafter take ownership for maintenance down the road. Side question: The Wikipedia entry for "

Re: C headers thain z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's unfortunate, since PL/I is a much better language for such purposes. I suppose that the business case for Ada headers would be even worse. Sigh. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on beha

Re: C headers in z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread David Crayford
On 2019-09-18 11:08 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Agreed 100%, but in the meantime I'll take the control block translations if I can get them and write the callable service myself. Or guide the new hire who knows C to do it for me in Metal C and thereafter take ownership for maintenance dow

Re: C headers thain z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread David Crayford
On 2019-09-18 11:31 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: That's unfortunate, since PL/I is a much better language for such purposes. I suppose that the business case for Ada headers would be even worse. Sigh. Ada is a fine language.  It comes down to popularity. There are even better languages for safet

ISPF panel variable

2019-09-18 Thread Bill Giannelli
I need to pass a variable (SSID) to a products ISPF panel. How do I pass a variable form one panel to another? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: ISPF panel variable

2019-09-18 Thread ITschak Mugzach
in short, in the panel-1 body do vput xxx asis. next panel might need to do a vget in the init section, but usually if same applid, there is not need for that. ITschak On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:59 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > I need to pass a variable (SSID) to a products ISPF panel. How do I pa

Re: I see a need for general conversion of mappings was Re: C headers in z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 22:49:10 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: >This is nice but when I was still doing system type coding I wanted a >tool that converts Assembler mappings to COBOL or PL1. If people >currently in the field would push for getting the BIT, >BINARY-Character, the true binary, IEEE binary

CA-1 migration to RMM

2019-09-18 Thread Nai, Dean
We are planning on migrating from CA-1 to RMM. Does anyone know where there might be some good documentation, maybe a Redbook, or some scripts to help with the migration. Thanks in advance. Dean Nai > -- For IBM-MA

Re: CA-1 migration to RMM

2019-09-18 Thread Statler, David
Try this: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246241.html David -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Nai, Dean Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: CA-1 migration to RMM We are planning on migrating from

Re: CA-1 migration to RMM

2019-09-18 Thread Nai, Dean
Thanks David On 9/18/19, 12:29 PMEDT, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Statler, David" wrote: > EXTERNAL: Do not open attachments or click on links unless you recognize and > trust the sender. > >Try this: > > > >https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/ab

Re: I see a need for general conversion of mappings was Re: C headers in z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hmm-m-m. Interesting idea, but I can see complex language-dependent variable definition issues. Might be a real bear to implement in the compilers in any shared-code-among-languages way. But again, "business" (profit) justification needed for IBM to devote the resources. Maybe if they bough

Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Well - I've been reading SYSUDUMPs for a long time, but I've never found a pretty precise description of the various pieces of the dump. The newer z/OS doc seems to just want to point you to IPCS, but I rather like just reading the dump. My particular question is the LINES -

Re: [EXTERNAL] Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
In times past it always meant the single line above. Jim Horne -Original Message- Well - I've been reading SYSUDUMPs for a long time, but I've never found a pretty precise description of the various pieces of the dump. The newer z/OS doc seems to just want to point you to IPCS, but I ra

Re: I see a need for general conversion of mappings was Re: C headers in z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread Steve Smith
XLC has a DSECT conversion utility. Check the User's Guide. Many don't like its output (probably including Peter Relson), but it can be useful, maybe as a starting point. sas On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 1:26 PM Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > Hmm-m-m. Interesting idea

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Mark Charles
When in a dump you see: Line 10 (as in it is all zeroes) Lines 11-20 SAME AS ABOVE that means the data in lines 11-20 are all zeroes, too. IBM did this to save paper (how many zeroes do you need to see?). It does not mean that the data was copied from Line 10. -

Re: ISPF panel variable

2019-09-18 Thread Bill Giannelli
thank you for the info! Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: I see a need for general conversion of mappings was Re: C headers in z/OS 2.4

2019-09-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
EDCDSECT has so many quirks it is almost useless without significant adjustments to the output. Many of the standard control blocks are defined in such a way in assembler that it is impossible to tell that they are address fields so EDCDSECT has no choice but to define them as "array of char [4

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Gereldy wrote: Seems like I recall, at some point, a pretty precise document on the format of a SYSUDUMP - but I can't seem to find it now... if anyone remembers what that might be a pointer to that would be welcome. I guess I would describe it as the storage that would be shown in li

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
I think I'm safe. Not nearly this volume and no dependency in SYS1.IMAGELIB > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Brian Westerman > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOL

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:36:14 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: >I guess I'm asking "what is the chunk of memory described in 'SAME AS >ABOVE'" ? One line. 32 bytes. It is simply telling you that it has skipped printing lines that would contain the same data content. It becomes obvious when you

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:03:38 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:36:14 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > >>I guess I'm asking "what is the chunk of memory described in 'SAME AS >>ABOVE'" ? > >One line. 32 bytes. > >It is simply telling you that it has skipped printing lines that w

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 13:40, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > My particular question is the > >LINES - SAME AS ABOVE > > in a memory dump. Does that mean the the single line (of 32-bytes) just > before this line is copied as many times to fill in the space between > an

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:36:14 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > >I guess I'm asking "what is the chunk of memory described in 'SAME AS >ABOVE'" ? > >Seems like a document somewhere might explain that definitively... ? > Was that the entirety of your question or just a representative example of se

Human data compaction (was: Description ... SYSUDUMP)

2019-09-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:48:18 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >What I've wished for for decades is that if there is just one repeated >line, they not do the "same as above" processing. The message saves no >space and just distracts from the flow when reading. > As a novice at the sysop console I once

Re: Question on LDAPSRV running on z/OS

2019-09-18 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
We are doing the same. There was no LDAP server changes we needed to do to make this happen. My first guess would be your web front-end is uppercasing it before sending it to LDAP. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, Septemb

Another IBM Mainframe bites the dust....

2019-09-18 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi All, After almost 40 years, OppenheimerFunds (now Invesco), have shut down our Mainframe. Not sure who’s keeping the list, but wanted to share the info. Thanks! BobL Confidentiality Note: The information contained in

Re: [External] Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Pommier, Rex
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 3:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 13:40, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > My part

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:48:18 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >> >>LINES - SAME AS ABOVE >> >> in a memory dump. Does that mean the the single line (of 32-bytes) just >> before this line is copied as many times to fill in the space between >> and > >Yes - quite def

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread CM Poncelet
The before/after addresses (on the LHS in the SYSUDUMP) show which addresses of the excluded lines are "SAME AS ABOVE".   CP   On 18/09/2019 21:48, Tony Harminc wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 13:40, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > >> My particular question is the >> >>LINES -

Re: Description of the format of a SYSUDUMP

2019-09-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 01:54:50 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote: >The before/after addresses (on the LHS in the SYSUDUMP) show which >addresses of the excluded lines are "SAME AS ABOVE". >  Yes, but the question is, if N lines are identified as excluded, does that mean the single previous line was repeated

Re: CA-1 migration to RMM

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
That's the same one I use every time someone converts to RMM, it may seem old, but the information is still almost entirely correct. There are some areas that talk about features that need to be handled, but if you are relatively current (i.e. CA-1 release 10 or 11), then you will be fine, and