Re: SMPe "rollout" of maintenance

2019-03-14 Thread Brian Westerman
I have a target zone for each sysres set and a dlib zone for each dlib set. If I need to add maint (even just one ptf) to a res system, but don't want to change an already existing one, I clone the existing sysres set and target zone and zoneedit the pack names. My catalogs are always set up t

Re: SMPe "rollout" of maintenance

2019-03-14 Thread Brian Westerman
I should have mentioned that I also have a single global zone for everything at that particular site. The only time I change global zones is when I install a new OS release. It's not that I have to, I just do it that way so that I don't get things mixed up. Brian ---

Re: hsm questions

2019-03-14 Thread Richard Marchant
Mike, My guess for the MCDS data component free percentages: In the listcat of the MCDS you will have something similar to; FREESPC517779456 HI-A-RBA---662077440 HI-U-RBA---173260800 *Actual Free Space* The lower percentage free space figure will be: (HI-A-RBA - HI-U-RBA) / H

cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
to maintain 2 different maintenance levels I want to clone my target and dlib. would this require 2 separate CSIs? And would I have to 2 copies of most of the dddefs? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acc

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread Jake Anderson
I usually keep 4 different sets of target CSI and Just one DLIB(As we accept the previous maintenance only when the previous maintenance has baked for some time ) TG1,TG2,TG3,TG4. So on the cloning process one qualifier matching to CSI name .. On Thu, 14 Mar, 2019, 3:08 PM Bill Giannelli, wro

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread william giannelli
so for each cloned target I need a separate CSI? On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 8:20 AM Jake Anderson wrote: > I usually keep 4 different sets of target CSI and Just one DLIB(As we > accept the previous maintenance only when the previous maintenance has > baked for some time ) > > TG1,TG2,TG3,TG4. > >

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread Jake Anderson
Target 2 CSI Dlib -1 CSI On Thu, 14 Mar, 2019, 4:36 PM william giannelli, wrote: > so for each cloned target I need a separate CSI? > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 8:20 AM Jake Anderson > wrote: > > > I usually keep 4 different sets of target CSI and Just one DLIB(As we > > accept the previous main

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread Carmen Vitullo
One Global, two Targets, one DLIB, that's what I've done in a previous shop, for products only,that was the standard, the target zone was named for the sysplex, and the DDDEF's reflected the Plex name in the target datasets in that zone, so my plex name was PLEX1 lets say, so my zone names were

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Carmen, You said: "... 1980's, that's what I came into all system catalogs were on the sysres, all uss HFS and ZFS were on the sysres ..." OMVS was not available until the mid '90s. Regards, David On 2019-03-14 09:00, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > One Global, two Targets, one DLIB, that's what I'v

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I think you get the just of what I was saying, that technique, or method of keeping everything on the sysres (for some), trying not to put my foot in my mouth again, moved forward with the advent of OpenMVS. the sysprog I replaced had everything on the sysres, so cloning or maintain gwas more d

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread David Spiegel
OK, but during the '80s, there were no system symbolics like &SYSR2. With the advent of that, larger DASD volumes (i.e. 3390 MOD 9, 27 and 54) and larger Datasets, the SysProg no longer had to cram everything on 1 DASD Volume. On 2019-03-14 09:49, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > I think you get the just

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread David Spiegel
OK, but during the '80s, there were no System Symbols like &SYSR2. With the advent of that, larger DASD volumes (i.e. 3390 MOD 9, 27 and 54) and larger Datasets, the SysProg no longer had to cram everything on 1 DASD Volume. On 2019-03-14 09:49, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > I think you get the just o

Re: z/os Access Windows SMB ?

2019-03-14 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-03-13 o 17:17, Longnecker, Dennis pisze: I've seen the information on how to get z/os data available via SMB to a Windows machine, but haven't seen anything on how to get the z/os side to send a file to a windows SMB. Trying to get a bunch of mainframe files over to a Windows share

Re: Disturbing news in the z/OS 2.4 announcement letter

2019-03-14 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-03-13 o 20:09, Don Leahy pisze: "Withdrawal of ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA) z/OS V2.4 is planned to be the last release to support the ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA), also known as the ISPF Client/Server Component. WSA is an application that runs on your local workstation and maintains

Re: hsm questions

2019-03-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you issue F dfhsm-stc-name,Q CDS it will show storage allocations for the files. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Richard Marchant > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:01 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: hsm questio

Effective of SMT with high zIIP usage

2019-03-14 Thread Bill Bishop (TMNA)
Anyone have any real-world experience with SMT? We have very high zIIP usage, 70% to 80% across 3 zIIPs, right now and have been asked to evaluate turning on SMT. One response was that with high zIIP usage, SMT might not be as effective as could be, and the other response is that it will make

Re: Effective of SMT with high zIIP usage

2019-03-14 Thread Carmen Vitullo
we tested with a single zIIP and turned it off quickly. We were eventually able to convert one spare CP to a second zIIP, and turned it on again on our secondary prod LPAR which was mostly all DB2 DDF type processing, both PROD1 and PROD2 were almost alway on the CAP, we saw some minor improvem

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 06:08:01 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >to maintain 2 different maintenance levels I want to clone my target and dlib. >would this require 2 separate CSIs? And would I have to 2 copies of most of >the dddefs? Strictly speaking, you do not need a separate CSI for each zone. Yo

Re: Effective of SMT with high zIIP usage

2019-03-14 Thread Martin Packer
Probably the overwhelming consideration is thread speed sensitivity. DDF probably OK with it, DBM1 Client SRBs likewise. Java batch jobs possibly not OK. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ib

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
If you want to be able to do maintenance on the target volumes then you need target zones. Whether to have a separate CSI for each pair of target/dlib depends on your backup strategy. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM M

Re: cloning target and dlib zones

2019-03-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
I prefer to have each target/dlib pair is a separate CSI; that simplifies backup. Thee are arguments in favor of only having one dlib zone for a given srel; I don't find the case compelling, but others do. Wht is critical is that you have a target zone for every sysres set that you might need to

Re: SMPe "rollout" of maintenance

2019-03-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's how I like to operate, with one variation: I prefer to rotate among sysres sets rather than cloning and deleting, and I don't dedicate a sysres set to one LPAR except when I'm in the process of promoting a testing a new level. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 __

Software volume category

2019-03-14 Thread R.S.
I mean SMS-managed tapes, and possible entries in DEVSUPxx member, for example default MEDIA11 =000B (this is default for JC media, also called EATC) Question: where the category is recorded? AFAIR it is recorde in the ATL, that means Library Manager (PC inside the library). However is it reco

Re: hsm questions

2019-03-14 Thread Hervey Martinez
Mike, Yes, you should be able to delete the logs outside of hsm. I don't think it keeps track of those. The log retention is usually governed ty the management class; so, look into that. To check the space on hsm cds files: HSEND Q CDS That command will give the the space allocation of the ocd

Re: Disturbing news in the z/OS 2.4 announcement letter

2019-03-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:13:44 +, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: > >Yes, I spotted this too. I've been too busy to spare time to think about it, >but I too use it for seamless file transfer to/from my laptop, and would miss >that functionality. I suspect IBM would be pushing other

z/OS build clarification

2019-03-14 Thread Peter
Hello All Right now I am running serverpac for zOS 2.3 from the driving system LPAR LOPB on z14 hardware. The target system name is also LOPB and I will be IPLING from z114. This is for just test purpose I am doing as recently we moved from z114 to z14. Our storage box are still connected to b

Re: Disturbing news in the z/OS 2.4 announcement letter

2019-03-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
I never used WSA as a file transfer application, only to run parallel ISPF sessions. If they open sourced that piece of it I'd be happy. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilm

IBM SFG - Your Opinion

2019-03-14 Thread Sasso, Len
I welcome your comments, suggestions, etc. about the IBM SFG Product. Thank You! Len Sasso System Administrator General Dynamics Information Technology 327 Columbia TPKE Rensselaer, NY 12144 Phone: (518) 257-4209 Cell: (518) 894-0879 Fax: (518) 257-4300 len.sa...@gdit.com URL: www.gdit.com This

Re: z/OS build clarification

2019-03-14 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-03-14 o 18:53, Peter pisze: Hello All Right now I am running serverpac for zOS 2.3 from the driving system LPAR LOPB on z14 hardware. The target system name is also LOPB and I will be IPLING from z114. This is for just test purpose I am doing as recently we moved from z114 to z14.

Re: Disturbing news in the z/OS 2.4 announcement letter

2019-03-14 Thread Steve Smith
I so mentally interpolated an "sh" in there :-). I always wanted to like WSA, but it seemed very clunky vs. my expectations. I never thought of it as a file transfer tool, merely as a way to edit locally. sas On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:59 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > I never used WSA as a file t

Re: Disturbing news in the z/OS 2.4 announcement letter

2019-03-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
ObGungaDin It was clunky; it badly needed multi-line and block copy. But it was better than nothing. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Smith Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2

Re: IBM SFG - Your Opinion

2019-03-14 Thread Allan Staller
SFG -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sasso, Len Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM SFG - Your Opinion Importance: High I welcome your comments, suggestions, etc. about the IBM SFG Product. Thank You!

Re: IBM SFG - Your Opinion

2019-03-14 Thread Sasso, Len
Sterling File Gateway (Managed File Transfer Product) Thank You! Len Sasso System Administrator General Dynamics Information Technology 327 Columbia TPKE Rensselaer, NY 12144 Phone: (518) 257-4209 Cell: (518) 894-0879 Fax: (518) 257-4300 len.sa...@gdit.com URL: www.gdit.com -Original Mes

Re: IBM SFG - Your Opinion

2019-03-14 Thread Jackson, Rob
It's extremely powerful but oh so onerous to install, maintain, and administer. They will push implementation services, and you will wish you'd bought them before it's over if you go it on your own. What are you planning on doing with it? If it is just MFT, I would highly recommend taking a g

Re: IBM SFG - Your Opinion

2019-03-14 Thread Sasso, Len
We will be doing SFTP. IBM is installing and we will be working with them to implement. We just got Connect:Direct about 1.5 years ago. We are getting SFG/SI, SSP, SEAS and CC. Yes, there sure are "a lot of pieces." Thank You! Len Sasso System Administrator General Dynamics Information Techno

Re: IBM SFG - Your Opinion

2019-03-14 Thread Kirk Wolf
IBM z/OS OpenSSH is included with z/OS, and it includes SFTP. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Techologies http://dovetail.com PS> if you need z/OS data sets, spool files, etc, etc, you can also use Co:Z SFTP, which does SMF, console notification logging, exits, etc, etc. On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:32 PM Sass

Re: IBM SFG - Your Opinion

2019-03-14 Thread Jackson, Rob
This is relating to doing SFTP transfers with SFG. If you use SSP for reverse proxy for SFG, which is highly recommended, then you pretty much must use SEAS to look up passwords/keys with LDAP for SFTP clients. First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: I

Re: IARST64 in addrr

2019-03-14 Thread Steven Partlow
There are better designs than allocating storage at the explicit address in most cases (fork being the primary exception). If it's the case that Kees mentioned of having a shared block that is allocated on first use (assuming you have good serialization), then use name tokens instead. A hard-co

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 21:35:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >... (I want Bookie back!) > Interesting that the pdfinfo tells me: Antenna House PDF Output Library 6.5.1119 (Linux64) ... and: https://www.antennahouse.com/ ... suggests that they were converted from something else. Word? Bookie

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-14 Thread Mike Shaw
On 3/14/2019 7:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 21:35:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: ... (I want Bookie back!) Interesting that the pdfinfo tells me: Antenna House PDF Output Library 6.5.1119 (Linux64) ... and: https://www.antennahouse.com/ ... suggests that they wer

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 21:40:18 -0400, Mike Shaw at QUICKREF wrote: >On 3/14/2019 7:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 21:35:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> >>> ... (I want Bookie back!) >>> >> Interesting that the pdfinfo tells me: >> Antenna House PDF Output Library 6.5.1119

Re: Effective of SMT with high zIIP usage

2019-03-14 Thread Scott Chapman
My recommendation is to leave SMT turned off until you have a defined need for it. Then when/if you turn it on, evaluate both application responsiveness as well as the standard SMT measurement values. And then generally keep an eye on those values over time. With SMT enabled, understanding effe